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Michael Dalvean

May 31, 2013, 4:38 AM

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I am new to this forum so I thought I would introduce myself.

I have an application which may be of use to poets and oublishers. Essentially it is a method of placing a given poem on a spectrum between amateur and professional. The system was callibrated using 100 amateur poems (from amateurwriting.com) and 100 poems from Contemporary American Poetry (Poulin and Waters, 2006).

I would be interested to hear what members of the forum think of the application which can be found here:



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May 31, 2013, 9:16 AM

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Interesting. I ran two poems through it, which have been selected for a "best of" anthology. One was rated 1.1, the other 4.8.

I skimmed the paper (I have trouble reading academic work online), and it seems that it's mostly a language analysis. Some poets, or some poets for certain poems, work hard to keep their language simple and accessible. That might skew your results.

I am, however, greatly pleased to be ranked as more "professional" than Galway Kinnell.

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Jennifer Brown

May 31, 2013, 12:18 PM

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Interesting. I beat Richard Wilbur's "The Writer" with what was only my second attempt at a poem (1.8 to Wilbur's 1.37). I still like Wilbur's better...

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the skrauss

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Jun 5, 2013, 9:29 AM

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Poetry Assesor, this is fascinating. I used this poem by myself and comic book author Marv Wolfman. Line breaks are his, everything is his except the extraction. It scored .740567.
The poem is one that I found in a Superman Comic. I found the writing so bad that it, in Kenneth Koch's words, "Sounds like an avant garde poem. Like Mary McKintrik Ros. I hope to capture this voice some day.

Beneath the brackish waters of the Icy Atlantic

[I deleted the body of the poem to comply with policies, which is unfortunate. Marv Wolfman is one of the most gifted inadvertent poets I've ever read.

(This post was edited by the.skrauss on Jun 5, 2013, 9:34 AM)

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Rebecca Forste
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Jun 10, 2013, 11:39 PM

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Shakespeare's Sonnet XVIII scored -1.7

Michael Dalvean

Jun 11, 2013, 12:28 AM

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Shakespeare's Sonnet XVIII scored -1.7

The system is calibrated on contemporary poems. The sample of 100 amateur poems was taken from www.amateurwriting.com while the sample of 100 professional poems was taken from Poulin and Waters' Contemporary American Poetry 8th Ed. This means that scores for poems prior to the 20th Century will probably not be valid.

Hope this helps.

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