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pongo
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Nov 26, 2012, 10:17 PM

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Am I the only one having trouble with this? If I look at messages, go away, and come back, they are still flagged as unread unless/until I reload the page. Sometimes I won't see succeeding messages unless I reload the page.

Since this started just after I got my new computer, it may be local. Or it may not.


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alamana
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Nov 27, 2012, 7:56 AM

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That has been happening to me for forever--or at least since I had that trouble with the speakeasy logging me out, or looking like it was logging me out or whatever it was. I've just been reloading the page.


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jason
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Nov 30, 2012, 9:17 AM

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Sorry about the delay in responding, but we're still struggling with hurricane damage. Hopefully, we'll be able to get back into our office in the next few weeks.
Most modern browsers have gotten really aggressive about caching in an effort to appear faster and don't actually get a fresh copy of the page from the server unless forced to. It helps to avoid using the browser's "back" button for navigation, since the recently viewed pages will be shown from the browser's local cache. If possible, use the breadcrumb links at the top of the page (Main Index >> About the Speakeasy >> Questions About the Speakeasy) for navigation. The server sends headers to the browser strongly suggesting* that a fresh copy be pulled from the server, which will include updated read/unread information.
*I write "strongly suggesting", because the browser can still do whatever it wants. Safari, in particular, often ignores such suggestions until a refresh is forced.


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Nov 30, 2012, 9:50 AM

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Reloading does seem to help. I also tried out my new dual-boot system, and I don't have the problem in Linux (Firefox in both systems, Linux and Windows 7), although Java is wonky in Linux.

I love calling the links "breadcrumbs."

And I hope you get your office livable again soon.


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jason
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Nov 30, 2012, 10:42 AM

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Thanks, David. It's been quite an adventure. The high water mark was chest high in the lobby, so all the equipment in the basement (electrical, phone, etc.) was destroyed. Right now, our phones are forwarded to a cell phone and I have a stack of servers running in my living room. The fun part was climbing 21 floors to drag down the essentials.
It's probably bad form to brag about my coworkers, but I have to say that the staff has done an awesome job under really challenging circumstances. They're an amazing group of folks.
As to Firefox, you can try adjusting how it caches pages. If you enter about:config in the address bar, you'll get to the advanced settings page. The setting you're looking for is browser.doc.check_cache_frequency. By default, Firefox has this set to 3, which means "Check for newer version when the page is out of date". Setting it to 1, which means "Check for a newer version every time the page is loaded" should take care of the problem. The down side is that it might be a little bit slower loading other sites that you've been to recently when the page hasn't changed since your last visit. For the most part, it won't make a noticeable difference.


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Nov 30, 2012, 10:49 AM

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browser.doc.check_cache_frequency doesn't seem to be at about:config. Might it be called something else in the latest version of Firefox?


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jason
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Nov 30, 2012, 10:51 AM

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Sorry, I mis-wrote. It's browser.cache.check_doc_frequency.


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Dec 7, 2012, 6:14 PM

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Dear Jason, I'm sure everyone in the Speakeasy community sends best wishes, plus awe & admiration, for all you have gone through in an attempt to restore normalcy to the operation. We continue to cheer for you, whatever
the remaining challenges, and with thanks for the great service you provide to writers.

And, as our beloved Lucy would add at this point,
"That will be ten cents." No, just kidding!


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----Sandy----


pongo
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Dec 7, 2012, 6:30 PM

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I forgot to come back and report: the fix worked perfectly. Thanks. And what Sandy said.


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writerle


May 24, 2013, 11:44 AM

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I'm having issues with this again, ever since I got my new MacBook.

Even when I log out and log back in again, the messages I've already read are still marked as unread. And it seems to take a long time before any new messages show up. I posted something and was unable to see my own post even for several days, though apparently others could see it, because I received a message that there was a reply to my post in my email.


jason
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May 31, 2013, 2:45 PM

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Re: [writerle] Read/Unread flags wonky [In reply to] Can't Post

Okay, I'm trying another method to get the server to convince the stubborn browsers not to cache Speakeasy pages. Let me know if it helps.


alamana
Jennifer Brown


Jun 3, 2013, 2:06 PM

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Okay, I'm trying another method to get the server to convince the stubborn browsers not to cache Speakeasy pages. Let me know if it helps.



Jason, whatever you have done, it has fixed all of my issues--I no longer have to empty the cache every time I visit the Speakeasy. Thanks so much! This is great.


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writerle


Jun 3, 2013, 3:36 PM

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Mine seems to be working fine now too.
Thanks!

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