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abcd

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Feb 18, 2010, 1:26 PM

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Congratulations, rneighb! That it such excellent news! It must feel like a relief to hear something positive early on in the season and in light of the news yesterday. I am so happy for you!


rneighb


Feb 18, 2010, 2:21 PM

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Junior Maas,

Sorry that I didn't have more info for you. I have the impression that the PhD concentration at A&M hasn't been around very long--a couple years maybe--but I really don't know why I think that. Maybe it's because you don't hear much about them in the usual places--TSE, MFA blog, etc.

And thanks everybody for the congratulations. Getting into one program will make the rest of the waiting much more bearable. I hope all of you start hearing back from programs soon.


wkupnw


Feb 18, 2010, 2:30 PM

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Hello,
I am new to the chat. Would you so kindly tell me how the forum works? Is there live chats or just all by email? Sorry to bother you but I read the magazine on line every month and now I would like to start networking with other writers.
Please help if you can
Thanks
wkupnw


Rambler


Feb 18, 2010, 4:34 PM

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Re: [rneighb] Texas A&M [In reply to] Can't Post

So happy for you!!! And glad to hear I'm not alone in the kid category. I am a grad student now with a three month old. Staying busy isn't a problem here, either. Congrats again. You deserve it. :)


abcd

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Feb 18, 2010, 10:15 PM

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UIC [In reply to] Can't Post

Hi everyone,

A rejection was posted for UIC PhD Creative Writing at the grad cafe. Found out via the website. Poster did not say if it was for poetry or fiction. I checked my status and it still says pending. :)

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sicofelephants


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Feb 18, 2010, 11:34 PM

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Re: [abcd] UIC [In reply to] Can't Post

Augghh! The loathsome "pending" status. Doesn't that drive you up the wall whenever you see other people posting rejections/acceptances? My uw-madison status is still in pending limbo, and I saw a bunch of acceptances went out on gradcafe last week. I guess they send their rejections by post. Still on edge waiting to hear from Milwaukee, too.

[wind + tumbleweeds]


(This post was edited by sicofelephants on Feb 18, 2010, 11:35 PM)


rneighb


Feb 19, 2010, 12:33 AM

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Re: [wkupnw] creative writing ph.d. ? [In reply to] Can't Post

Welcome, wkupnw. Glad to have you.

To post messages to the forum for all to see, you just reply to a post using the arrow in the top right corner of the post.

Of course, you can also send a private message to an individual poster by clicking their name and then "send private message."


rneighb


Feb 19, 2010, 12:41 AM

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Re: [Rambler] Texas A&M [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks, Rambler.

I remember the days when my little Chloe was three-months-old (I know I sound nostalgic, but it was only a 1.5 years ago). You didn't mention if your little guy/gal is a handful, but let me tell you, either way, it gets easier.

I wanted to say that to you because when Chloe was that tiny (well, she was never tiny; she came out 9lbs. 6oz.), she definitely was a handful, and all people would tell me is that "it only gets harder." I seriously wanted to punch people in the face. Telling new parents that is equivalent to pointing out to a drowning person that the waves are getting rockier and then laughing as you walk away.

Anyway, bitterness aside ;) ...I think it is always hard in new and different ways, but I've found that it is easier and I could get more done when Chloe began to walk and talk and take care of herself a little bit more. In other words, eventually your three-month-old won't need you to take care of his/her every whim, every second of every day. That helps.


LesK
Les
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Feb 19, 2010, 8:07 AM

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Sorry for the slight interruption, but:


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(well, she was never tiny; she came out 9lbs. 6oz.),


Wow, rneighb. Wow.


abcd

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Feb 19, 2010, 9:45 AM

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Re: [sicofelephants] UIC [In reply to] Can't Post

I feel your pain, sicofelephants! My heart sinks a little when I see an acceptance from a school I applied to, too. I guess the good thing about limbo (re: iuc and madison) is that there is still hope? Still waiting to hear from Milwaukee over here, too. I know last year they sent some acceptances by mail so that is promising.

[homemade bread, coffee, and dog snores]


rneighb


Feb 19, 2010, 10:39 AM

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LesK,

Was that a response to her size or to the way I phrased it? :)

abcd,

I'm right there with you guys, but I try to remember one thing my writing mentor has repeatedly told me: "unless you hear back very, very quickly, it is always, always a good thing (whether with publications, school applications, etc.) to hear back as late as possible. It means that your material is being considered that much longer and is more likely to be accepted.


sicofelephants


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Feb 19, 2010, 11:36 AM

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Re: [rneighb] UIC [In reply to] Can't Post

hah, no sooner have I posted that than I wake up and see my status was changed overnight to "denied." Ah well. Madison looked like a super cool program, but I mostly applied to be close to an old friend. Evidently, the ad com saw through my farce ;-)

Let the *official* worrying over programs I didn't apply to for strictly personal reasons begin! Denver starts looking at files today, yeah? Good look to all of us! Woo! Maybe rneighb's acceptance will precipitate lots more acceptances in this thread?


(This post was edited by sicofelephants on Feb 19, 2010, 11:41 AM)


Ms. Mystery


Feb 19, 2010, 12:01 PM

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Sorry to hear it, sicofelephants. I keep on saying that I'd rather hear any kind of news, but I'm sure my first rejection is gonna sting.

That said, I have heard a big old heap of nothing. My UIC status still says "pending," and Utah hasn't called me up. I haven't heard anything about USC except that they've notified right about now in previous years.

Also, big congrats, rneighb! It must be great to have something solid to stand on.


abcd

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Feb 19, 2010, 12:14 PM

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I second Ms. Mystery, sicofelephants. Sorry to hear of the news from Madison. But I'm cheering for an acceptance to come your way soon!

To the posters with children--wow, grad school and a family--I don't know how you do it! But I am impressed. Also it is kinda nice to see some non-phd talk on here related to families. I just found out this morning that my little brother will be a dad soon. First time Auntie for me! Now please please Ohio U accept me so that I might be a bit closer to my new niece or nephew. :)

In other news, which you may know if you are a grad cafe watcher like me: someone posted a Tennessee rejection via postal service.


Rambler


Feb 19, 2010, 12:26 PM

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Re: [abcd] UIC [In reply to] Can't Post

Congrats on the niece/nephew!

Re: grad school and families. It's really hard, but doable if your school works with you and you plan your courses right.

I have heard nothing, nothing, nothing.

sigh...


TC3


Feb 19, 2010, 12:40 PM

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I posted the Tennessee rejection. I had been quite excited, as grad cafe's admissions history shows that Tennessee admits through snail mail and during this very week, while most rejections are mailed in March. When my status page informed me that a letter had been mailed, I thought that it was most likely an admit, considering that history, but alas, no dice.

I find it more than frustrating that writing PhD admissions seem to be no different than submitting stuff to a journal. And I guess Tennessee doesn't care much about CVs.

Applied: Tennessee, Utah, Cornell (MFA/PhD), Illinois at Chicago, Georgia, Denver, Ohio, Nebraska, Missouri, Binghamton
Rejected: Tennessee


kliq


Feb 19, 2010, 12:53 PM

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Sorry to hear that, TC3. What genre did you apply in?


rneighb


Feb 19, 2010, 12:58 PM

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Sorry about the bad news, sicofelephants and TC3. And sorry, sicofelephants, for the previous platitude about waiting, which, with your new post, probably makes me sound a little like an ass.

Ms. Mystery,

Thanks. I'm trying to not get too excited yet about A&M until I receive the letter. I really don't see how the online status can be anything but an acceptance from the English department, but I don't remember what it said previously (all the other schools say, "deferred to department" or something like that) so...I'm not celebrating until I'm 100% sure I'm in. I might call today because it said online it could take two weeks for the letter to arrive.

Here's my list so far:
Kansas-Rejected
Texas A&M-Maybe
Illinois @ Chicago-Nothing
Utah-Nothing
FSU-Nothing (apparently will notify the 1st week of March?)
Texas Tech-Nothing (had heard was mailing out letters this week?)


sicofelephants


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Feb 19, 2010, 1:26 PM

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Re: [rneighb] UIC [In reply to] Can't Post

haha, no worries, really. No offense at all was taken. You are not an ass. I'm actually kind of glad since it would've been a full-on English PhD, and my brief flirtations with lit theory have always left me kind of cold. I'll be much happier to do an actual creative writing PhD :-) I also don't think it's time yet for any of us to worry. Acceptances will either come or they won't, but a couple rejections to start aren't worth sweating.

And I'm going to reiterate the general astonishment at the grit and unflappable energy of the parents in this forum. Kudos. Goodest of luck confirming that A&M admit! Sounds like you've got it!


rneighb


Feb 19, 2010, 1:59 PM

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Yeah, I agree about lit theory. I'm not particularly fond of it, but I wanted either a Lit and CW program or an English with CW concentration, the idea being that it would give me a broader background and make more marketable (of course, who knows in this economy?).

I do think lit theory is beneficial, and some of it even interesting (postcolonial thought, some Marxists). It just seems like a lot of theorists go overboard. They make a complex topic seem more complex through their writing, when they should be seeking for more accessibility. What does it matter if you have some great insight into literature, culture, and humanity, if only a small fraction of the population can understand what you are writing?

Frankly, I think sometimes it smacks of of elitism.


TC3


Feb 19, 2010, 2:22 PM

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I don't think that theory itself is that bad, but I do think that how we "do" theory needs some rethinking. Typically, when people "do" theory in English departments, it means glossing one or more "theoretical" texts, and then using that gloss to gloss one or more "literary" texts. This process smacks of middle-man corporatism, in that the author is just throwing more barriers between the reader and the primary text. The scholar controls the meaning of the theoretical text(s), which never is straightforward to begin with, and uses that questionable meaning to control the meaning of the literary text(s), which, due to its derivative nature, often results in unsupported, underarticulated off-the-map claims and a heavy reliance on jargon and overspecialized shorthand in place of a cogent, accessible discourse.

Of course, that I don't specialize in theory makes my authority questionable at best, especially when it comes to potential bias, but I *have* published scholarly articles in both theory and literature in addition to publishing creative work, so I think I have a unique insight into the relationship between what is often conceptualized as antithetical: creative and literary focuses. Each could learn from the other. Creative writers could stand to be better critics, while critics could stand to be better writers.


TC3


Feb 19, 2010, 3:27 PM

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kliq,

I applied in poetry. I'm a bit lacking in publications (only about a dozen in national periodicals, no books), but I also have scholarly publications and awards, as well as editorial and teaching experience.

Someone once told me that TN's PhD writing program is more of an MFA program in nature, and I know that I definitely would not be attractive to a program more along those lines. While my writing is in no way special, it also is not the typical "MFA poetry" that one sees in most issues of journals and reviews.

At the same time, I would have loved to be a part of that program. It has a very young upstart journal (Grist), so there would be a lot to do with that, as well as a vibrant arts community in Knoxville.


gcsumfa


Feb 19, 2010, 8:00 PM

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I posted the Tennessee rejection. I had been quite excited, as grad cafe's admissions history shows that Tennessee admits through snail mail and during this very week, while most rejections are mailed in March. When my status page informed me that a letter had been mailed, I thought that it was most likely an admit, considering that history, but alas, no dice.

I find it more than frustrating that writing PhD admissions seem to be no different than submitting stuff to a journal. And I guess Tennessee doesn't care much about CVs.

Applied: Tennessee, Utah, Cornell (MFA/PhD), Illinois at Chicago, Georgia, Denver, Ohio, Nebraska, Missouri, Binghamton
Rejected: Tennessee


If it makes you feel better, Tennessee is incredibly difficult to get into, based on past posts. I think they admit one per genre. One.


Rambler


Feb 19, 2010, 8:48 PM

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Just read my rejection email from Tenn. in fiction. This news of one admit (one!!!) does make me feel better.

But sadness...Tenn, we would've been something together.


gcsumfa


Feb 19, 2010, 9:31 PM

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Just read my rejection email from Tenn. in fiction. This news of one admit (one!!!) does make me feel better.

But sadness...Tenn, we would've been something together.


Yeah, I applied to UTK as well a few years ago. Actually, two years in a row, and was rejected both times. Pretty sure the grad director said something about 1 per genre. Tennessee probably has the lowest acceptance rate out of any of the PhD CW programs.

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