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Colder


Jan 9, 2010, 6:11 PM

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Same to you, Sam (Colder). I have a feeling you might hit one out of the park. Fingers crossed.


Thanks, bud. Let's be classmates, okay?


rain_raine


Jan 9, 2010, 6:14 PM

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Count me in as another one who thought I'd just apply again next year if I don't get in. Now I wonder if I maybe should have spent more time looking into some of those lesser known programs and added them to my list. But what's done is done, I chose programs that I really liked, and I am committed now to whatever comes next!


Colder


Jan 9, 2010, 6:52 PM

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Genre
Fiction. Realism. I write quirky ethnic lit and stories about screwed up people.

Workshopping/Writing Seriously?
I used to be a screenwriter. Workshopped my scripts for many years and worked in the development side in Hollywood, doing story notes and coverage and stuff. I switched to prose about 15 months ago. I took 3 undergrad creative writing classes way back, and then two more recently. I do the Zoetrope thing with Wandering Tree. Itís an online community of wonderful, talented folk.

Published?
I started submitting my stories to publications last year. Iíve been published in a few places online with a couple more coming and Iíve been nominated for a couple of awards. Iíve gotten some ink from the big places like the Paris Review, Southern Review, Oxford American, Michigan Quarterly, etc Ö But no large market acceptances yet. I have no idea how Iíll ever break into them. Thatís why Iím trying to get my MFA, to adopt ideas that Iíve never even considered before and learn craft techniques that I wouldnít have ever figured out on my own. Iím hoping this will give me the tools to take my stories to the next level.

What did you do to prepare?
I submitted unpublished stories that seem to get the most attention from peers and editors.

Active part of writing communities?
Zoe and Fictionaut, but I havenít been keeping up lately. Iím too mired in grad school limbo right now to concentrate.


danceanielle
Dani

Jan 9, 2010, 6:52 PM

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fun!

What genre are you in?
Poetry

How long have you been workshopping/writing seriously?
I was pretty serious in High School, but didn't take a workshop or really work at it until my last two years of undergrad.

Are you published?
a little. Caketrain, elimae, robot melon, etc. Haven't sent out stuff in about a year, because I realized how important it was for me to really back whatever I "put out" there, and I have been focusing on applications, anyways.

What did you do to prepare your pieces for your applications?
Sent out many of them to a few writer friends. Re-wrote and let them all sit for awhile, and then re-wrote again.

Were you an active part of the writers' networking communities/did you meet influential people at the schools before the apps?
Just a few writer friends, a couple professors from college, and a few writers that I happened to meet out and about at events. Not super active any communities.


(This post was edited by danceanielle on Jan 9, 2010, 6:55 PM)


rohsun


Jan 9, 2010, 10:22 PM

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Genre
Poetry. Essentially, confessional poetry sometimes tending towards surrealism

Workshopping/Writing Seriously?
Just over 4 years.

Published?
A bit - poems in Ghoti, Elimae, Eclectica, GUD magazine, The Two Review, Orange Room Review, Edfice Recked and some more. The highlight would have to be coming in first in a competition judged by Marvin Bell.

What did you do to prepare?
Went thru the P&W website and the Creative Writing MFA blog to scout for top programs in Poetry, and then sent out 10-15 poems to the schools. I did ask my recommenders to let me know their thoughts on the sample, and then worked around with a few of the suggestions to make the sample stronger.

Active part of writing communities?
Online workshops only. I've been lucky enough to see my craft get better with the help of writers like Rusty Barnes, Sue Miller, Beverly Jackson, Ken Clark and others.


Trilbe



Jan 10, 2010, 2:23 AM

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For some reason, I can't edit my original entry on this topic... But if I could, I would edit the last question about whether or not you know anyone influential at the instutions you've applied to. I would like to remove that part of the question, entirely. I picked up these questions from a poster last application season, when the questions were directed at people who had already been accepted to more than one program and the poster. The question didn't sound bad when asked last year, but I've just realized that I sound kind of douchey asking it here.

I would also like to add a question:

What major themes are you interested in exploring in your work? Did this affect your choice of schools?
I am interested in the idea of place. So I was drawn to UNLV's international emphasis and the option to spend time doing graduate research abroad in a second language.


frankish


Jan 10, 2010, 10:40 AM

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What genre are you in?
Fiction (with some poetry)

How long have you been workshopping/writing seriously?
Since my senior year of college. I did an MA Creative Writing program after that which was an intense year of workshopping, but that was many years ago. I haven't been in any formal workshops since, just exchange work with some friends for comments.

Are you published?
Maybe a dozen or so pieces at Prairie Schooner, the Carolina Quarterly, etc. One got nominated for a Pushcart, though I still have no idea how or why. It's been years since I've submitted anything, though.

What did you do to prepare your pieces for your applications?
I submitted a piece I'm currently working on (an excerpt from a novella). It's pretty rough, as it's an early draft, but best represents the kind of work I want to do going forward. I let two people read it, a good friend and essentially a stranger, and used the feedback for some initial revisions. I have no idea whether submitting this piece was really dumb or not....

Were you an active part of the writers' networking communities/did you meet influential people at the schools before the apps?
I got a very late start applying to programs, so I exchanged emails with the directors of a few to see if I could submit materials after the deadline. Other than that I haven't met any people at the programs to which I applied. But I do know a few teachers/visiting writers at other programs, mostly people I met in the MA program I did.


(This post was edited by frankish on Jan 10, 2010, 10:41 AM)


WanderingTree


Jan 10, 2010, 10:42 AM

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What major themes are you interested in exploring in your work? Did this affect your choice of schools?

Most of my stories fall in the realm of magical realism/surrealism. Some play with metafiction and experimental forms but most are fairly straight forward. I often blend folklore and domestic situations, and there seems to be a recurring pattern in all my stories of characters keeping secrets from each other and not "knowing" how to love or be loved. I guess related to this is the overarching theme of the role of "self" and what that means in virtual and imagined spaces. What happens when identity is thrown out the window? Or when a character is wrestling with multiple identities caught in different "worlds"?

Almost all of the programs I applied to seem to support what I'll call "domestic magical realism". Even programs like Wisconsin have recently graduated folks whose work is definitely left of center. Brown was a no brainer b/c of my desire to experiment more with form and investigate the possibilities of using cell phones/QR Codes/multi-media e-readers (coming soon) and other interactive platforms to tell stories. Notre Dame also fuels this desire, in large part, because of Steve Tomasula and the work of alums like Evan Kuhlman.


Godot Eyelashes


Jan 10, 2010, 4:41 PM

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Genre
Fiction and Poetry

Workshopping/Writing Seriously?
I have not workhopped formally, but exchanged and commented writing with a few friends. I have been writing seriously for three years.

Published?
A few places...not substantial to be called "published."

What did you do to prepare?
I ate a lot of pomegranates. I read 100 books and watched strangers crawl into a hole. Or two.

Active part of writing communities?
Not really. I am trying.....


Godot Eyelashes


Jan 10, 2010, 4:49 PM

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What major themes are you interested in exploring in your work? Did this affect your choice of schools?

I am interested in connubial poetry and would like to explore this in a narrative format. This did not affect my choice of schools. I just sent to schools without assumptions about the aesthetics of the schools. Schools are like people. They are just as unpredictable.


morganapple


Jan 10, 2010, 7:20 PM

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hey fellow crazies!

As of yesterday, I was finished with all my applications. But anxiety is already rumbling in my belly about notifications, and I'm thinking of adding a couple more higher-admit schools to the list.

Here's where I already applied:
Iowa
Michigan
UC Irvine
Virginia
UMass
Brown
NYU
UCSD
San Diego State
U of Oregon
U of Washington

Is anyone having the same insane thoughts I'm having? Is it worth my time, effort, and money to continue to drag out this app process? If ya'll have any info on schools whose deadlines have not yet passed, preferably ones with higher acceptance rates than the schools on my list, I would love insight on programs. Right now I'm thinking about Oregon State, Portland State, maybe Eastern Washington, U of Miami... But it's way too late in the game to begin researching these programs without help. So please, help my panic-stricken soul!

thanks neighbors.


In The Lobby


Jan 10, 2010, 9:32 PM

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Hey Apple,


Louisiana State has a deadline of January 25. Superb funding, three stellar publications, and supposed light teaching loads.

New Mexico State: February 1. There's Robert Boswell and again, more than generous funding.


San Diego State has a pretty website. Their deadline is Feb. 1 and the program appears to cater to comparative text. Plus, there's opportunity for travel abroad.

Funding aside, U San Fran has a deadline of Feb. 1, too.

I know nothing of acceptance rates for any of these, however.


Godot Eyelashes


Jan 10, 2010, 11:06 PM

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In the Lobby.
In the Lobby.
You can be my next hobby!


In The Lobby


Jan 10, 2010, 11:40 PM

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Eyelashes eyelashes mick mo mylashes banana fanna fick-fo-fy-lashes zee zy zo zylashes GO GO godot goloshes


Eyelash and I are fellow colleagues at Cornell. Poetry.


Sorry, Apple. I overlooked that you already applied to SDSU.


ericweinstein
Eric Weinstein


Jan 10, 2010, 11:49 PM

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Hi Eyelashes, Lobby:

I'm applying to Cornell (poetry) & would love to hear about the program from either of you, if you have the timeóthis thread or by PM is fine. Thanks!


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


morganapple


Jan 11, 2010, 3:54 AM

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not to worry lobby. thnx for the info about lsu & new mexico. as well, congrats on cornell! I'm also a poet and the program seems awesome, but I live in nyc right now and as a CA native I don't think I could live in Ithaca.

Not sure if I'll really go through with mooooooore applications, but I really appreciate the info while I'm freaking out!


Trilbe



Jan 11, 2010, 2:39 PM

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Hey, Morgan!

IF you do decide to apply to additional schools, even if you aren't able to investigate them as thoroughly as your original 11, at least do enough research to make sure you'd be happy at any of the schools you add. I know that there are schools throughout the selectivity spectrum that have awesome programs, amazing faculty and dedicated student poets. So I know there are some "unranked" schools out there that you could be happy at. I'm just saying that I think you need to verify this as much as you can before you apply to any of them. Because (God forbid!) what if you end up only being accepted by one of your late additions and, emotionally distraught from other rejections, you end up accepting that offer. You want to make sure it's a place that you'll actually be happy at. You're an awesome poet, so I'm not saying this doomsday scenario is likely. I'm just saying, what if... You know?

I also want to suggest a late-term option: Trinity College Dublin. The application due date is March 1st. There are some drawbacks... It's only a year long program and it's unfunded. But you could probably find fellowship funding for the program and IT'S AT TRINITY F*CKING COLLEGE IN DUBLIN! AT THE F*CKING OSCAR WILDE CENTER! What?!?! F* yeah! You know, I love the Irish poets so I'm biased. But just think of the effect that a year of writing and working with tutors at the premier university in Ireland could have on your work.

Finally, one more thing to keep in mind, you've applied to 11 schools and you only need to get into one. Just one. So there's no need to panic.

My $0.02, Trilbe

EDITED TO ADD THE WEBSITE: http://www.tcd.ie/OWC/courses/creative/

(This post was edited by Trilbe on Jan 11, 2010, 2:44 PM)


daniv


Jan 11, 2010, 4:30 PM

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morganapple,

Can speak to Portland State. First of all, Charlie D'Ambrosio started his first semester there--and, while I might be biased--I think he's one of the finest writers alive. He's a spectacular workshop leader, too. Tom Bissell also started this year and comes highly recommended. The MFA program is brand new (funding only to a lucky ONE as it stands now, but there are other opportunities for earning money).
The pros: Portland--the school is in the heart of the city which creates a nice energy, not to mention the literary community in general is incredible.
The cons: You really have to be proactive. Most of the students complain that they don't have much guidance. Not sure how this compares to other programs, but that seems to be the complaint I hear most. Again, the story is different for poets and NF folk--but for fiction, many of the profs. are tough to track down for important stuff like, well, thesis work. This, I suspect, might change with the new faculty in the next year or two. Also, it has the feel of a commuter school, so if that's what you like--that's great. If not, you have to work hard to sort of forge a sense of community with other writers.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Good luck!


Reaper16


Jan 11, 2010, 4:47 PM

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This is my 2nd year applying. I was accepted to two schools last year without funding and was waitlisted at another two. I applied this year to the following schools for Creative Nonfiction:

University of Iowa
University of Minnesota
Ohio State University
University of Alabama
University of Memphis
University of Kansas
University of Missouri - Kansas City
University of Arizona
Eastern Washington University

I will be attempting to blunt the anticipation of hearing back from schools with craft beer and barbecue.


Woon


Jan 11, 2010, 4:54 PM

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I applied to 13 schools of extreme selectivity. I told myself it's okay not to be accepted because, after all, there's always Optometry school.


Zuleika Dobson


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Jan 11, 2010, 5:52 PM

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I find it difficult to refrain from weeping each time I glance at my list. Because I decided "there's always next year," I only applied to 10 of my absolute top choices. Consequently, I am finding it impossible to imagine that I'll get into even one.

I was tempted to actually put down money against myself on one of those online "bet on anything" places, but the problem would be finding someone to take up the other side.


"Every spectator is a coward or a traitor."


kbritten

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Jan 11, 2010, 6:47 PM

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Zulieka, I would never take that bet against you :)


JohnGradyCole


Jan 11, 2010, 8:56 PM

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Long time lurker tired of long time lurkin'!

Applied in fiction to:

Montana
UNC Wilmington
McNeese
Hollins
Idaho
Wyoming
Syracuse
Virginia Tech
Colorado State
Texas State
Vanderbilt
Arkansas

(Anybody else have a beast of a time remembering all of the schools you're applying to off the top of your head when somebody asks you to name them?)

This is my second stab at getting into a fiction program. Last year I went 0 for 8 (made one waiting list). It was entirely devastating, but after some weeks of lying around feeling sorry for myself, I shook up my reading list, started listening religiously to PRI's Selected Shorts podcast, squirelled away $20 a week into an envelope I kept in my mattress (best application fee savings system ever), and worked on new stories. So here I am again, crossing my fingers!

My stories are inspired by where I grew up and places like it, but they're not autobiographical. I sent two stories to almost every program. One is a traditional narrative. It's long-ish. Over 15 pages. The other is a less traditional narrative that relies more on atmosphere than plot. It was the ballsier of the two stories to send, but it got strong feedback and, like the longer story I sent, exemplifies the kind of work I'd like to continue to put out while in grad school. Honesty's the best policy?

First choice school? I don't know. Last time I applied, Montana was the undisputed first choice. I knew they were incredibly selective, but they were the program that got me excited about pursuing an MFA in the first place. In addition to the faculty and the way the program is structured, I allowed myself to get emotionally attached to the idea of moving to Missoula. The small house I might live in! The able, non-yappy dog I might adopt! The new hiking boots I would wear out within a year of buying them! The roaring wood-burning stove I would sit by whilst composing The Great Novel! And when I got that rejection letter... oof! I wish somebody had told me to be optimistic, sure, but to be careful about not getting so high on my optimism that it actually hurts to come down.

Good luck, everybody!

(This post was edited by JohnGradyCole on Jan 11, 2010, 8:59 PM)


nine


Jan 12, 2010, 12:01 AM

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What genre are you in?
Poetry (sometimes genre bending work)

How long have you been workshopping/writing seriously?
I started writing seriously around 13. I started workshopping in college.

Are you published?
Yes-- just a couple poems in an online lit mag.

What did you do to prepare your pieces for your applications?
Workshops then revised on my own.

Were you an active part of the writers' networking communities/did you meet influential people at the schools before the apps?
Not part of any communities. Didn't meet and influential people either.

What major themes are you interested in exploring in your work? Did this affect your choice of schools?
I'm not that controlled in my work. My obsessions just come out if I don't get in their way. So far I've noticed these things showing up a lot: the moon, other celestial bodies, anatomy, silence, isolation, clowns, seductive and graceful hostility, the circus, the apocalypse, decay, the feminine, utopia, authenticity, consumption, primitiveness...


fixittuesday



Jan 12, 2010, 12:26 AM

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What genre are you in?
Fiction

How long have you been workshopping/writing seriously?
When I realized I didn't want to teach high school English, I really let myself succumb to writing. It felt guiltily and luxuriously like giving up and going on vacation. I workshopped as much as possible during my undergrad and in the years since have taken small workshops with an author I really admire.

Are you published?
Yes, but just regionally. Nothing that would make you go, "really?!"

What did you do to prepare your pieces for your applications?
Wrote them, re-wrote them, workshopped them, re-wrote them, sent them out to trusted friends to number them in order of preference and then weighed that tally with my gut feelings and licked the envelope!

Were you an active part of the writers' networking communities/did you meet influential people at the schools before the apps?
I've never met anyone at the universities I applied to; I try to stay active in my local community of writers (Los Angeles has no shortage, trust me: you can't spit without hitting a writer) by going to as many readings as possible, meeting authors, reading voraciously.

What major themes are you interested in exploring in your work? Did this affect your choice of schools?
I'm interested in mental illness, specifically women with mental illness. I am fascinated by the unbridled power of girls at about age 15--that new and magical year, the year you learn you have the power to cause a traffic jam by about the third button of your blouse. I love the gore and tradition of Catholicism and it tends to pepper my stories.

Um, do you ever re-read your last paragraph and creep yourself out?

I'm interested in story-swapping. Kind of. Maybe. Part of me doesn't want to know just how good I can tell you all are!

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