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kvandegraaf


Mar 13, 2009, 5:04 PM

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Well, I just got word that I am accepted at Western Michigan University for the PhD in poetry! Unfortunately, they aren't offering any funding either. The way the email sounded, I'm not sure if they have the budget to fund anyone at all this time around. Of course, I could be wrong, but I thought I would let others waiting on WMU know that they may not have any funding to give this season. Such a pity! I do love Nancy Eimers. :(


loaf

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Mar 13, 2009, 5:07 PM

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Wow, you are really collecting the acceptances now! Congrats!

I got my rejection letter from WMU a week ago. I was kind of bummed, but I didn't want to live in Kzoo.

It sounds like funding is really tough everywhere. Yikes.


moomoocow42


Mar 13, 2009, 5:10 PM

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Hey kvandergraaf, just wanted you to know, I got the same feeling regarding the school's funding situation in my acceptance email from the Western Michigan MFA program as well. My girlfriend, who used to live in Kalamazoo and went to WMU, told me that it isn't surprising at all, especially considering how much Michigan is suffering economically.


My MFA Blog -- Watch me slowly lose my sanity.

(This post was edited by moomoocow42 on Mar 13, 2009, 5:11 PM)


kvandegraaf


Mar 13, 2009, 5:38 PM

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Re: [moomoocow42] Western Michigan [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for the congrats, guys! Obviously, with funding on the table elsewhere, I won't be able to attend, but it's still nice to have an acceptance. It's really a shame all around on the funding issue. I already had concerns about moving to Kalamazoo because I didn't think my partner could find work there. Still, it seems like such a wonderful program, with terrific faculty to boot. Alas, WMU. We hardly knew ye.

As for you, Mr. Moocow, I saw in one of the other threads that you've also been accepted to Illinois for the MFA. I very nearly attended that program when I did my MFA, and I have a close (and fabulous and brilliant, of course) friend who is in the program right now in poetry. So far, she seems pretty happy with it. It sounds like you get a ton of one on one attention there, so if that's something you thrive on, you'd likely be happy there as well.

The funding fairy. She giveth and she taketh away. Blurgh.


moomoocow42


Mar 13, 2009, 8:20 PM

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Re: [kvandegraaf] Western Michigan [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for the insights regarding U of I, kvandegraaf, it's always good to hear. And congrats again on all your acceptances this year so far!


My MFA Blog -- Watch me slowly lose my sanity.

(This post was edited by moomoocow42 on Mar 13, 2009, 8:21 PM)


Jacobbarnez
Alexis Enrico Santi
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Mar 16, 2009, 1:02 AM

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Dear All,

I have been reading through this site for the past 4 hours and have seen the great joys that have come from doing what you all love and getting into PhD programs. I've decided that I am going to apply next year and would love any, and I mean ANY information that you all may have about the PhD program at the University of Binghamton. I read the rumor that the program really looks for the lit courses in your MA/MFA background. Is this true? And does anyone know their funding situation of TAships, etc..? Steph, I practically wept when I read your post about getting into Mizzou. Fuzen, hope you're still plugging away at FSU and to the rest of you congrats and best of luck all of you who are currently waiting for decisions to come from up high.

Whatever advice would be treasured.

A little about me. I already have a MFA from George Mason and loved getting my degree there. I've published a decent amount, taught sparingly and run a successful literary journal. My concern has long been since getting my MFA that it's not enough. Personally, by itself I don't think it is and I've always wanted to do a PhD and get the teaching experience that goes along with it. Do any of these programs have "ALL" their PhD students teaching? Or is it hit or miss?

Here are my choices from what I can gather so far in this process:

Binghamton University (I'm from Ithaca originally)
Missouri - seems like there's a decent amount of funding there, am I right about that?
University of Tennessee in Knoxville -- Allen Wier is the best professor I've ever worked with--bar none--and I'd love to work with him for four years.
University of Denver -- It's Denver, what more can I say?

Thanks for any advice you can offer.


Tabby


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Mar 16, 2009, 11:40 AM

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Re: [Jacobbarnez] PhD at Binghamton [In reply to] Can't Post

All I know about Tennessee is that it looked great to me, too, so I applied despite knowing they only take one or two people a year. (Denied!) If you worked with Weir that might help but it's Ft. Knoxville over there.

If you read the past posts in this thread, you'll find out a decent amount about Missouri.


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germericanqt


Mar 16, 2009, 11:41 AM

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You might want to consider Utah. I'm fairly certain that all of their Ph.D students teach, and it's a very solid program.


Tabby


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Mar 16, 2009, 11:49 AM

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Re: [Jacobbarnez] PhD at Binghamton [In reply to] Can't Post

If you scroll back check for Stephacropolis (? Errr...something like that). She's at Mizzou and her posts are always thoughtful and well-written. I recall she also posted what amounts to a small article on her advice to PhD applicants. If I were more organized I would have followed her sage advice.

For whatever reason those NY programs always seem off the radar.


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kvandegraaf


Mar 16, 2009, 12:43 PM

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Re: [Jacobbarnez] PhD at Binghamton [In reply to] Can't Post

"Students entering the Ph.D. program in English usually are expected to have an MA in English literature."

I lifted that right from SUNY Binghamton's website. I don't get the sense that they feel an MFA is equivalent, but it's something you may want to ask about. I've been poking around there because I have a good friend (also in Ithaca, by coincidence!) who is thinking about making an application there this fall. For what it's worth, their website seems fairly straightforward and helpful about what they're looking for in an applicant and what the program would entail. Another NY program with creative dissertation is SUNY Albany. I thought their program looked very interesting, and I'm wondering now why I never researched it when I was making my own applications!

I think virtually all PhD programs in CW offer their students the opportunity to teach. That doesn't mean that all programs are equally funded, or that the teaching experience at all programs will be equally interesting/diverse/etc. Though some programs may indeed be able to claim that every admitted student is given funding and teaching, those programs are also probably very small and competitive. My point is that making applications only to programs that fund 100% of incoming students versus also applying to some programs that only fund a portion of their accepted students probably doesn't increase your chances of landing funding/teaching.

My advice to anyone thinking about making an application is to do lots and lots of research. Looking back, I wish I had done some of the intensive research I've been doing into the programs that have accepted me before I made my applications. I thought I had done plenty of research, and I do think that I (mostly) applied to appropriate places, but there are several schools that I wouldn't have bothered applying to if I had done enough homework. They simply weren't great matches for me. Read all the course description archives, find books by the writers/professors, pore over the curriculum and graduate handbook, look into the surrounding area NOW. You can learn much more than you think remotely.

Best of luck!


chitown


Mar 16, 2009, 1:00 PM

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I was accepted to Binghamton last year. I applied for the PhD and was accepted to the MA. The DGS told me that they don't even consider an applicant for the PhD unless they have completed at least six literature courses (courses, not hours) during their MA or MFA, preferably more. I know that their PhD is lit heavy, but I'm guessing this cancels out many candidates.


betp


Mar 16, 2009, 2:21 PM

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Re: [kvandegraaf] Western Michigan [In reply to] Can't Post

that's crazy western michigan isn't funding! (or might not be, i suppose.) i sort of thought, going into the process, that all phds were fully funded (clearly not the case!) but i've heard really great things about their program, so if they do offer something, man that would be a great place (if you can hack the winters.)

i bit the bullet and accepted missouri's offer for nonfiction. (meaning a spot will open up at ohio & off the fsu waitlist.) it's always tough, making these decisions--i visited ohio and the people were great there, too--but i really have loved mizzou from the get-go (& wanted to make a decision, asap, since i know it speeds up other people getting to hear.)

i'm very thrilled, but can't believe the process is over! also, a friend was just offered a spot at missouri for fiction, which is good news--and means that people are moving off waitlists, already. anyway, good luck to all! i'll keep checking this thread--i'm curious to see where everyone ends up. anyone else planning on mizzou? or anyone have any decisions?


Tabby


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Mar 16, 2009, 2:34 PM

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Mizzou is awesome! Congrats betp!

PhD decisions are pretty nervewracking. Five years! But you picked a goodie. You'll do great!


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Jacobbarnez
Alexis Enrico Santi
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Mar 16, 2009, 2:42 PM

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Re: [chitown] PhD at Binghamton [In reply to] Can't Post

Hey Guys,

Thank you all for the great feedback. Nods to Salt Lake and SUNY Albany. I just got a note back from the director of the program at Binghamton if this helps anyone:

First question) How many spots do you have open per semester (I understand that you have two periods of acceptance) and how many teaching assistantships are available?

Her answer went something like this: It depends on their funding, state and university level. They give funding first for incoming fall students (apps due by 2/15) and for the spring (due 11/15) the funds have usually been exhausted. Going without funding is always an option she stated.

So not much help there. I haven't the foggiest what that may mean as to 2, 5, or 10 slots.

Second Question) Is it true that you don't consider anyone with less 6 courses of literature in their previous graduate degree, is this true?

And her second answer: For the phd that's pretty much the case but it's a case by case basis in determining what will carry from the MFA.

So there you have it, she's dittoing what she said to chitown last year. Not sure if I squeak in under this one, I may have the courses for them. We'll see.

I will look back at Stephanie's time line that she posted--that seemed really useful. Best of luck to everyone in this slog. I'm doing research and will be prepping for the GRE's and Lit GREs shortly.

--JB--


(This post was edited by Jacobbarnez on Mar 16, 2009, 2:44 PM)


Jacobbarnez
Alexis Enrico Santi
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Mar 16, 2009, 2:45 PM

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Thank you! You're awesome.


kvandegraaf


Mar 16, 2009, 2:59 PM

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I know! It's really sad about the funding at Western Michigan. I did get a lovely email from Nancy Eimers talking about my work and how they wish they could offer me funding, though. It was a nice consolation prize. I have always admired her work very much, and I agree that it seems like a super program.

I have already emailed WMU to say that I won't be attending unless the funding situation changes. I didn't post before as I'm unaware of anyone waiting on their decision. Plus, the funding thing makes it kind of a non-issue for all of us, I'd imagine. For me, it's between University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee and University of Nebraska-Lincoln. I'm still waiting to find out about funding from UNL. I emailed the DGS last week and haven't received a response, but I think UNL might be on spring break this week. So, I'm debating whether or not to wait out the funding situation with UNL or accept the generous offer extended to me by UWM. I think they're both wonderful programs, but these decisions have always been really, excruciatingly hard for me to make. I'm speaking with some students from both programs this week. I really hope this part is over soon!


kvandegraaf


Mar 16, 2009, 3:01 PM

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Re: [Jacobbarnez] PhD at Binghamton [In reply to] Can't Post

You're welcome! If you haven't seen it, umass has a good list of CW PhDs on his blog. You can find it here. Happy researching!


stephkarto1
Stephanie Kartalopoulos

Mar 16, 2009, 5:13 PM

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Hey there...

Mizzou is great! I am sincerely enjoying being here, and even 1 year later I have the solid belief inside me that I came to the right school. Last weekend was "recruitment weekend" of sorts with the new admits, and it was sort of funny to be the one helping ot recruit people when exactly 1 year ago, I was one of the people checking out the campus and the town for the first time.

Things to know about Mizzou:
1. EVERYONE here teaches and gets to teach a variety of classes. Everyone is encouraged to consider their teaching something that it absolutely is--a means of professionalization--and is given a "request sheet" of sorts before each term's teaching schedule is decided. We get to put in our request for the top 5 classes we would like to teach that span across professional writing, comp, creative writing, writing about literature, and literature survey classes. We also get to design our own syllabi and choose our own course texts.

2. Very strong sense of community amongst the students. Everyone's teaching and everyone is getting at least the same amount of money (there are some smaller fellowships here and there on top of stipends, but those are the sorts of things that are sometimes just given to you and you can't seek to attain and are, ultimately, inconsequential). There's a grad student association of sorts that the department takes very seriously. Students talk about issues--about required courses, about things they're experiencing, about their interaction with department administration, etc. And the assoc. has a variety of social stuff that encourage student boning/community building.

3. Though at times it can seem a *little* tight, even coming in at about $13.5K, I am making enough money to live on. My particular life is not that fancy--I don't have cable or satellite dish, for instance, and I have chosen to siphon off of whatever unprotected wifi my laptop will pick up--but it's pleasant and I have what I need. Rent here (especially compared to Boston) is very inexpensive.

4. All incoming students are paired with a "mentor" whose *minimum* requirements are to bring the incoming students to their first grad association meeting and social events in the fall term. Many of these "mentor" relationships often transfer into life-beyond-adjustment. People form friendships through them. It's helpful.

5. Everyone seems to maintain a healthy interest in what everyone else is doing. People from all areas of the department will come to your poetry reading or your colloqium on 19th C. british lit.

6. Faculty here, at least in creative writing (I would speak for the rest, but it's really only CRW that I know well...), is EXTREMELY supportive. My professors have met with me outside of class to get a cup of tea and talk about something I have going on or to talk about poems I have been revising since class. I have my dissertation director already. A lit professor from last term was extremely patient, supportive, nurturing, and amazing with me last semester as I grappled with significant exposure to literary theory for pretty much the first time in my life. She has encouraged my thinking and learning, and she has maintained a sincere enthusiasm in what has taken shape as a direction for my scholarly work.

All in all I am happy here.

I hope that you--and anyone else considering to apply to Mizzou for PhD--seriously researches this place to see if it might be a right fit for you.

All the best,
Stephanie


Tabby


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Mar 16, 2009, 6:18 PM

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Re: [betp] Western Michigan [In reply to] Can't Post

Huh! Just came back from the mailbox and received the letter that I'm waitlisted at OU. (NF). Thanks for posting betp that you declined. Could it mean I'm next on The List? Yikes. Nailbiter.


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chitown


Mar 16, 2009, 6:38 PM

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Accepted to U. of Louisiana's PhD today. Does anyone have any experience with this program?


Tabby


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Mar 16, 2009, 6:43 PM

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I don't know about the program, but I live in New Orleans. (Just moved here six months ago.) By all accounts Lafayette is supposed to be great. Good cultural scene, amazing food, Spanish moss, quaintness, etc. Made me sorry I neglected to apply.


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turnaround37


Mar 17, 2009, 10:49 AM

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DU News? I know Seth has posted a contact date for poetry and fiction, but has anyone out there heard anything from Denver? Thanks.


kvandegraaf


Mar 17, 2009, 3:46 PM

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Gee, I wonder if Steph likes it at Mizzou? Haha! Just kidding. It's nice to see someone so happy with their program. I heard via an acquaintance that someone I know from my MFA is also at Missouri in poetry. I don't keep in touch with him, but he was a very smart guy.

Congrats on LSU, chitown! I don't know anything about the program, but I agree with Tabby that it would probably be an amazing experience to live there. And congrats to you, Tabby, on the OU waitlist! Not sure which genre you're in, but I know Mark Halliday teaches over there in poetry and he seems terrific!

Oh, and turnaround, I didn't apply to DU, but there are some first-hand acceptance posts on the TSE blog if you look back a little bit. Seems like they have definitely notified first-round.

By the by, is anyone else kind of annoyed by the FSU waitlist? It's so nebulous, the whole shebang. I know they're probably waiting on funding, but I guess I don't feel like they're doing a super job of keeping everyone in the loop lately. My status is, of course, still unchanged. We'll probably all get acceptances in July. Heh.


stephkarto1
Stephanie Kartalopoulos

Mar 17, 2009, 4:05 PM

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KVandegraaf--where did you go to MFA? Do you know what year this person is at Mizzou? Do tell! ;) I might know this person!!!


Tabby


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Mar 17, 2009, 6:54 PM

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So it looks like I was next on OU's waitlist after betp. I got the call this morning! My first acceptance with the cash to back it up. Looks like a woman can live pretty well off of betp's leavings. ;) And thanks (betp wheresoever you may be, probably surfing Missouri craigslist right now) for making a decision early. I want to give the same courtesy except

FSU! I'm in the same murkyville. Sooooooo mysterious. From FSU in general I get that while the writing program is great, the school itself is disorganized. I know a few people who went there undergrad.


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