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germericanqt


Mar 6, 2009, 4:29 PM

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Re: [swiviol] Brown [In reply to] Can't Post

Sounds like they all got together and decided to really enjoy this season of rejection. Here's mine:

Dear Rachel,

Clearly you have heard that our program tends to have an experimental tilt. We were fascinated by what we discerned to be a foray into very bad writing, but unfortunately we have little interest in that particular experiment.

Thank you for an amusing read,
Brian Evenson and co.


(This post was edited by germericanqt on Mar 6, 2009, 4:29 PM)


Raysen


Mar 6, 2009, 4:37 PM

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Wow, those are pretty bad. Cheer up, folks! At least Brown didn't reject you based on your online persona here at P&W Speakeasy. That kind of dig was uncalled for, IMHO. But life goes on...


aimeegloworm


Mar 6, 2009, 4:42 PM

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I think the similie usage of "gang raped" is in poor taste--on both human and literary levels.


unsaid78


Mar 6, 2009, 4:50 PM

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Got my Cornell rejection in the mail today too.


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germericanqt


Mar 6, 2009, 5:01 PM

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I thought it was funny.


germericanqt


Mar 6, 2009, 5:03 PM

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Re: [germericanqt] Iowa oh Iowa [In reply to] Can't Post

Got my JHU rejection just now. It's like last year they were yelling, "HOT! HOT! YOU'RE SO CLOSE!" and this year they're like, "Nope, colder, colder..."

Dammit. I'm going to go hit a pint of Ben and Jerry's. Sorry, thighs. I have no choice.


unsaid78


Mar 6, 2009, 5:30 PM

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Rejected from FSU by email.


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ummmliz


Mar 6, 2009, 6:55 PM

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i'm sorry you didn't get in, brown responders, but i have to say, you're making me laugh a lot right now. congratulations for maintaining a good sense of humor. my four rejections thus far have only inspired me to cry a little, and tear the letter into tinsy-tiny pieces (or yell at the computer screen, in the case of MCW).


v1ctorya


Mar 6, 2009, 7:00 PM

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Got my Cornell rejection! Wasn't fond of the 'a' in 'for a very few places,' thought it would have sounded better without it. But maybe that's the basis for my rejections, going by sound rather than grammar. . .


flergenderg


Mar 6, 2009, 7:48 PM

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Re: [v1ctorya] Brown [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't know about everyone else here, but I'm thinking this whole MFA thing is a load of crap. I just spent about $500 for no reason. Give me the last 4 months back.


Khalilah


Mar 6, 2009, 9:45 PM

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Re: [germericanqt] Iowa oh Iowa [In reply to] Can't Post

Girl, I have eaten Sooooooooooo much ice cream in the last two weeks. Ate it to celebrate. Ate even more to assuage the disappointment.

Started eating meat again too.

I did appreciate Andrew Galloway telling me that many of the "very talented people" they turn down "go on to distinguished careers" and wishing me success in mine. Sweet Sweet. So No Cornell. My sister didn't want me witnessing all the suicides up there anyway.

All you Brown commentators -- thank you for making me laugh so heartily.

Acceptances: Indiana, VaTech
Non-Acceptances: Wash U - St. Louis, Cornell, Brown, U Michigan, MCW, Iowa, Univ Kansas
Still Haven't Heard (but it doesn't matter at this point): UWash- Seattle, Arizona State, UNLV, UMissouri - St. Louis, UC Irvine, Purdue


megmarcu


Mar 6, 2009, 10:22 PM

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Rejected at Johns Hopkins, for fiction.

BUT, my lovely roommate wrote up the funniest letter in the world, complete with a heading from "Janice's House O' Learnin'." It included this: "We have decided that you are the best candidate for our MFA in Writing program, so good in fact, that we have decided to admit you and only you, and for that matter will never admit anyone else again ever..." HA. Good thing I have her in my life. :)

Best of luck, all!


potshot


Mar 7, 2009, 4:21 PM

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Rejected again... [In reply to] Can't Post

Got the Cornell rejection today, as expected. Is there a thread for what to do after all this is over and no schools said "yes"?


Raysen


Mar 7, 2009, 4:29 PM

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In Reply To
Got the Cornell rejection today, as expected. Is there a thread for what to do after all this is over and no schools said "yes"?


I know a girl from my area who applied to 11 schools last year and got into ZERO. She spent the past year writing more stories, improving her craft, and submitting them to pubs. She got one published. Meanwhile, she still works at her real estate firm. She said she might give it another go this coming Winter 2009, but only a handful of targeted schools. She's not interested in teaching creative writing so the practical necessity of an MFA is not there for her. But she has MFA dreams -- as if her life is not complete without that MFA experience. Sort of like a two-year writer's retreat. More than likely, she will return to her real estate job after her MFA gig is over. That's IF she gets accepted this time around.

The point is...keep writing and submitting.

I mean, you're still a writer regardless of the MFA. So, you should theoretically be writing and submitting no matter what.


(This post was edited by Raysen on Mar 7, 2009, 4:33 PM)


PJwave1


Mar 7, 2009, 6:50 PM

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"The point is...keep writing and submitting.

I mean, you're still a writer regardless of the MFA. So, you should theoretically be writing and submitting no matter what."

Amen, Raysen. Amen.


Katevey


Mar 7, 2009, 7:59 PM

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Sara: I know the southern Illinois region well; if you're willing to live a little further out, as in near country, you can live quite well inexpensively. It's a beautiful area, you're not far from Shawnee National Forest, drop-dead beautiful place if you like real nature. You're only about 2-1/2 hours from St. Louis (legal speed.) If you don't have to do everything near campus, there are some good co-ops, restaruants, etc.
To the people who talked about their parents, friends, relatives not understanding: THEY aren't suppose to understand and when you are truly on your own and don't have those annoying people, you really will miss having someone around who doesn't understand everyone else not liking everything you do. Old, old, old: Rudyard Kipling, "O Mother of Mine."
Still have not heard, rejection or acceptance from my other 3 places. Goodness, I wish I could have afforded to apply to 13 - 20 schools, I really, really do.


Kurt


Mar 8, 2009, 11:13 AM

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I still haven't gotten in anywhere, and I'm like, a good writer. Just offering that consolation for anyone who needs it : )


motet
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Mar 8, 2009, 12:58 PM

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Is there a thread for what to do after all this is over and no schools said "yes"?



potshot,

Yes there is a thread. You can find one discussion HERE and another one HERE.
And when in doubt, you can always refer to the Directory of Topics in the MFA Forum. if you're looking for an existing conversation.

Dana Davis
Speakeasy Moderator


(This post was edited by motet on Mar 8, 2009, 12:59 PM)


Josh Diamond


Mar 8, 2009, 2:13 PM

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I got my Cornell rejection Firday as well, but it's the only physical rejection I've recieved so far.

Has anyone recieved news yet, yay or nay, from the following:

Purdue, Indiana, Syracuse, Columbia College (Chicago), and/or BGSU?


Khalilah


Mar 8, 2009, 3:09 PM

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Hey Josh,

People were accepted by Purdue a while ago, Several of us were accepted by Indiana starting at the end of January, TSE had a Syracuse acceptance posted this week, What is BGSU? I applied to Purdue and haven't heard from them yet so I guess the waitlisted and rejected havent heard yet but these schools also have to finish with their first picks and go through their second rounds which could be the thing holding up letters.


Hope this helps.


Josh Diamond


Mar 9, 2009, 12:32 PM

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Re: [Khalilah] Update on respnses [In reply to] Can't Post

Yes, thanks.
BGSU = Bowling Green State University (Sorry for the confusion).

I just received an email from Indiana today. I've been waitlisted.


Reaper16


Mar 9, 2009, 3:07 PM

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Not the best start to the week. Got my official rejection letter from Iowa's NWP today. One half of me is reacting like "Well, hey. You expected it, and they didn't have that many funded spots this year anyway. It wasn't in the cards." And the other half of me is reacting like "Screw the cards. You've been rejected from your number one and number two schools and you have zero acceptances to your name. You should probably go off yourself."

At least this Iowa letter was kind and sincere, unlike the Minnesota letter.


Khalilah


Mar 9, 2009, 4:12 PM

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Reaper,

For some reason no matter how much we expected them, those Iowa rejections were hard to take, almost irrespective of what our status was with other schools. I think its just because we put so much energy into wanting Iowa that nothing could prepare us for the more statistically realistic let down.

Best of luck with the rest of notification season.


Reaper16


Mar 9, 2009, 4:26 PM

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Re: [Khalilah] Rejected again... [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for the well-wishes.

I generally take rejections pretty well. This one, though entirely expected, is magnified by the lack of notification from 5 other schools I applied to. The Iowa envelope was like finding a water fountain in the middle of the desert only to discover dust pouring forth from the spigot.


Raysen


Mar 9, 2009, 8:56 PM

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I've learned quite a bit from this MFA application process. I've been accepted at two good Top 10 programs, but also rejected by three others (Michigan, Brown, Texas). I am, by my own admission, not a very talented writer (in the way someone like Charles Dickens and Virginia Woolf are talented writers). It takes me forever to finish a story. What some of you more talented folks take a week to finish, I usually take a month. I am, however, very relentless. I write often and sometimes, without a plan.

Anyway, here's what I learned from this past season of MFA applications (note: this only applies to what I myself learned):

1. GPA doesn't matter
2. Age doesn't matter
3. Honest from-the-heart Personal Statements resulted in acceptances -- to the extent that such a correlation exists. I sent out Three honest ones and three artificial ones. All the artificial ones were sent to schools that ultimately rejected me. Two of three honest ones were sent to schools that accepted me. Again, perhaps there's no correlation.
4. No need to send out my "best" writing. In fact, I sent out manuscripts where I took some bold risks even though I thought they did not represent my "best" writing. And what the hell does "best" writing mean anyway? I honestly don't know. So, from my risky manuscripts, I got two acceptances and three rejections, with one pending.
5. After the application has been sent, DO NOT BOTHER the MFA Admissions Office. Just lay low.
6. Keep writing. The next story might be better than anything you've ever written.
7. Keep submitting. At worst, status quo. At best, you get some feedback from editors who may sometimes comment on your stories. For one of my stories, which I submitted to MFA programs, one lit mag editor wrote back, "The intro is strong, but the turmoil experienced by your minor character was distracting, if not altogether unnecessary." Great! Now, I can revise that story for future submissions!
8. Make plans for next year by assuming the MFA thing won't work out. Makes rejections less painful. In my mind, I've already moved on. And when a letter from an MFA program arrives, I'd just think, "Oh, that thing?"
9. Running and exercising often kept my spirits up.
10. Stay away from junk food and TV. But it's okay to eat donuts and ice cream though. And "Survivor." It's okay to look forward to Tribal Council. You know...all that drama.


(This post was edited by Raysen on Mar 9, 2009, 8:59 PM)

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