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mzmiller


Apr 9, 2008, 3:13 PM

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Podeswa-

I'm fiction. If you don't mind, may I ask what shaped your decision? Feel free to pm if you'd rather.


paigelgoit

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Apr 10, 2008, 12:07 AM

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I've been noticing that just about if not all of the applicants accepted to Pacific for the next session have declined the acceptance. I applied (fiction) but submitted just in time for the deadline. According to the admissions office, a decision should be available at the end of the week. I realize that the participating voices on this forum represent a mere slice of the applicant pie but am I the only one who finds it curious that so few people accept the acceptance....?


Paige
Life Goes On, I Think
http://lifegoesonithink.blogspot.com


Hieronymus


Apr 10, 2008, 12:32 AM

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I've been noticing that just about if not all of the applicants accepted to Pacific for the next session have declined the acceptance....am I the only one who finds it curious that so few people accept the acceptance....?

Where are you getting this info about the percentage of declines at Pacific? I don't see it on this message board. I chose Pacific over other acceptances because I took a close look at the faculty and liked their books and the accolades with which it has been received. They've built a well-respected program in a very short time. I don't think they would have made the Atlantic top five if they didn't have it going on. I'm very much looking forward to my involvement in the program (fiction). And ultimately, you know what? You get out what you put into it...

On another note, I was rejected at WW. Peter Turchi's letter says "While I know this isn't the decision you were hoping for, I trust it won't interrupt the ongoing development of your craft." Uh, no...get over yersef! I tossed the letter in the recycling bin along with Maps of the Imagination. It's going to be a great two years!


paigelgoit

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Apr 10, 2008, 12:43 AM

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Re: [Hieronymus] Vermont and Pacific [In reply to] Can't Post

I actually know someone who is at Pacific for non-fiction and loves it. To be honest, her rave reviews are what pushed me to submit the application I had been sitting on. So I'm in no way bashing the program. And if I get in, I'll have a tough choice to make. But I've just noticed in various comments where people noted a list of where they've been accepted/rejected and gone on to identify what school they are planning to attend, Pacific hasn't made the cut all that often. Again, as I said in my original comment, I realize that this message board is a small representation of current low res MFA applicants and that the pool is made smaller by those who actually post comments. Nonetheless, it is something that I saw as a trend of sorts.

As for Warren Wilson's rejection letter (I'm sure mine is en route), I second your sentiment. I recall reading something in their paperwork that pretty much said you shouldn't apply if your only goal of the program is to either (a) get published or (b) get a teaching gig. I'm first and foremost seeking a MFA to improve my writing but, um, girl's gotta eat!


Paige
Life Goes On, I Think
http://lifegoesonithink.blogspot.com


fiorava
Valerie Fioravanti

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Apr 10, 2008, 8:02 PM

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Re: [Hieronymus] Vermont and Pacific [In reply to] Can't Post

Hey, do I know you?

I think the only knock on these West-Coast programs is that they are relatively new, so they don't have former students plugging for them on forums and such. My friend was in one of the very first classes at Bennington, and I know she was nervous about taking that risk, but she went with her own judgment over reputation and was rewarded with a good experience. Now Bennington has an excellent reputation. Pacific might be the next fast-rising program. I'd be pretty happy to work for them.


Hieronymus


Apr 10, 2008, 8:37 PM

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Well, I just did what I've read you're sposed to do, which is to look at the work of the faculty advisors/mentors and see how well you like their work or how useful you feel it might be to work with them. I like what I see at Pacific. Really, a good program is a good program, and at some point there's really no mechanical way to latch oneself onto the reputation of ones MFA program. We get out of it what we put into it.

That being said, I think there is a self-fulfilling aspect to so-called "top-rated" schools. Because of their reputation they are the most desirable and therefore self-selecting. They in turn take only the already most talented and developed writers, hence maintaining and building their reputation. I really don't think it has overly much to do with the teaching content, although that is obviously important. Again, I just feel that everything a writing student accomplishes is dependent mostly on their own hard work. Talent is an elusive thing to understand and develop otherwise. We read a lot to absorb techniques and to become inspired, then we must write write write and write some more.

Yup, I think you might very well know me. In fact, I was just going over your wonderful list of suggestions for reading analysis today, thinking about how I might effectively use it for my program essays... but remember, discretion is the greater part of valor...

8-)#
hieronymus


podeswa


Apr 11, 2008, 1:42 PM

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Re: [paigelgoit] Vermont and Pacific [In reply to] Can't Post

Well, as I told mzmiller, I would have run into Pacific's arms had Bennington rejected me. Pacific was second on my list. So there's that...


schmeeter


Apr 14, 2008, 9:57 AM

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Hi!

I'm waitlisted at Bennington and Antioch. Anyone heard anything in the last few days?

I'm still hopeful...


angst101


Apr 14, 2008, 10:58 AM

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I am new to this forum, but I was recently waitlisted at Bennington for fiction and gave up at fiction spot at Antioch. Are you fiction?

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schmeeter


Apr 14, 2008, 11:12 AM

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Yes, I'm fiction! :)

Good luck. It seems they waitlist applicants in groups. I know two people who were waitlisted earlier in April and got in soon after. I got my notification last week. When were you waitlisted?


angst101


Apr 14, 2008, 11:16 AM

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Re: [schmeeter] Vermont and Pacific [In reply to] Can't Post

I was waitlisted last Monday, and gave up Antioch on Wednesday. Good luck to both of us!


angst101


Apr 14, 2008, 11:21 AM

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I just looked, and I was wrong. I was waitlsted on Wednesday.


schmeeter


Apr 14, 2008, 11:34 AM

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Re: [angst101] Vermont and Pacific [In reply to] Can't Post

I was waitlisted on Wednesday. I wonder how many others were too?

Do you know where you are on the waitlist?

What happened with Antioch?


angst101


Apr 14, 2008, 11:46 AM

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Re: [schmeeter] Vermont and Pacific [In reply to] Can't Post

HI,
I have no idea about my place. Nothing bad happened with Antioch. It was just not my first or second choice. I must have pulled its acceptance list on Thursday. My head is spinning from all this.


schmeeter


Apr 14, 2008, 11:50 AM

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Re: [angst101] Vermont and Pacific [In reply to] Can't Post

I know. Me too. I just want it to be over. I think Antioch is a good program. I'm surprised you declined their offer, except that it is clear across the country...though January residency will be a nice reprieve from winter. Are you from New England?

Did they mention where you are on the waitlist at Bennington? Bennington is my first pick.


angst101


Apr 14, 2008, 11:55 AM

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Re: [schmeeter] Vermont and Pacific [In reply to] Can't Post

I live in Chicago, so I am probably incredibly stupid. January is awful Bennington has always been my first choice, but I have no idea if I will get in.


schmeeter


Apr 14, 2008, 12:03 PM

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Re: [angst101] Vermont and Pacific [In reply to] Can't Post

Well, I hope we both get accepted to Bennington. :)

I live in Cambridge, MA, so it's just a hop, skip and jump for me.

Good luck! Please keep me posted.


angst101


Apr 14, 2008, 12:05 PM

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I will. Let's keep our fingers crossed.


podeswa


Apr 14, 2008, 1:56 PM

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I'm willing that you both get accepted:) Good luck!


angst101


Apr 14, 2008, 2:00 PM

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Re: [podeswa] Vermont and Pacific [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks so much!

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Zina


Apr 14, 2008, 3:02 PM

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Re: [podeswa] Vermont and Pacific [In reply to] Can't Post

I echo that sentiment. I'm waitlisted at Antioch, so I know what it's like.


Hieronymus


Apr 14, 2008, 8:01 PM

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I also received a letter indicating I'm on the Antioch waitlist. But I'm going with Pacific University and am pretty jazzed about it. Aren't we lucky there are so many schools to choose from these days. I only hope reading will become as popular as writing! Bon voyage to everyone, no matter your port of departure...

(By the way, you know you can change the "Subject" heading to reflect your comments...)


sin


Apr 14, 2008, 8:26 PM

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I'm accepted at Pacific and Antioch and cannot choose. My head says Pacific but my heart says Antioch. I don't know what to do! Help, someone.


podeswa


Apr 14, 2008, 9:22 PM

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Both are excellent programs (based on what I can gauge from the literature each sent me and from the respective Websites) and for what my opinion may be worth, I think you can't go wrong either way.

Looking at faculty helped me make my difficult decision, but you might also want to review each program's philosophy and how those philosophies might attune to your own views on writing and where you want it to go.

Location is also something to consider, as are travel expenses, housing accommodations, etc. Though secondary, those things might actually shape a decision.

Does neither program pull you more toward it? Like I said, I don't think you can go wrong either way as both are excellent programs. Maybe a list of pros and cons for each might make your decision easier. Hope this helps a little.

Congratulations on your acceptances and good luck!


sin


Apr 15, 2008, 1:49 PM

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Thanks so much! I really appreciate the feedback. I'm leaning toward Pacific at this point, and your thoughts are very appreciated.

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