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jmorrow


Mar 19, 2008, 3:50 PM

Post #1926 of 2979 (23188 views)
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Re: [jvogtman] american university [In reply to] Can't Post

Congrats! American's my only acceptance so far, too (I'm still waiting on a few), so maybe I'll see you in the fall.


MissEsquire



Mar 19, 2008, 3:57 PM

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Re: [pensive] SLC [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks! Fiction. I am still waiting to hear from three other schools, but am very excited about SLC. You're in too, aren't you? What genre?


(This post was edited by MissEsquire on Mar 19, 2008, 3:58 PM)


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Adam
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Mar 19, 2008, 4:32 PM

Post #1928 of 2979 (23094 views)
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Fiction also! I'm going on a campus visit to Pitt on the 7th, and then I'll make my decision. I'm heavily leaning toward SLC...finding housing near NYC just makes me a little nervous. I called Sarah Lawrence today and they said there should be a packet coming in the mail very shortly with financial aid info and such (also a form to send back accepting my acceptance). I couldn't find the cost of on-campus housing anywhere on their website...I'll be anxious to see what it says in the packet. You have until April 15th to confirm, and then on April 16th is a new student day; if/when I decide on SLC, I'll probably plan on coming to that. George Saunders is speaking! If you want, you can email me, or PM and we can talk about it some more. bassad@nku.edu


bedefan


Mar 19, 2008, 4:48 PM

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AAAAAAH! I got into Iowa for translation and they're giving me the Iowa Arts Fellowship! AAAAAAH!

(writhing joyfully on floor)

(rejected from every other program so far)

AAAAAH!


kate88


Mar 19, 2008, 4:56 PM

Post #1930 of 2979 (23022 views)
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Re: [bedefan] Holy mackerel! [In reply to] Can't Post

Wonderful!

What is the concentration of your translations?


pugalisious


Mar 19, 2008, 9:08 PM

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Re: [bedefan] Holy mackerel! [In reply to] Can't Post

I am in for nonfiction, but i'm planning on visiting slc first week of april since hte other schools want me to let them know by the 10th. i'm eagerly waiting for fin. aid packet as well - a much deciding factor.


pugalisious


Mar 19, 2008, 9:09 PM

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Re: [pugalisious] Holy mackerel! [In reply to] Can't Post

replying myself, I know ... just wondering if anyone knows how many students there are in the writing program- fiction, poetry, nonfiction? and how large are the classes?


gmircos


Mar 19, 2008, 11:14 PM

Post #1933 of 2979 (22709 views)
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Help! I have questions! [In reply to] Can't Post

So I have three programs to choose from but they were my back up schools ( more rejections than acceptances.) I was wondering if anyone can give me any inside info on the programs I got in to, or any info at all that you think may be helpful would be wonderful!

I got into (fiction): Colorado state university
Columbia college, Chicago
University of Maryland, college park
Anything on these three programs would be appreciated especially Columbia Chicago because thatís the one I am leaning toward!

Thanks!


(This post was edited by gmircos on Mar 19, 2008, 11:15 PM)


symmetrical


Mar 19, 2008, 11:58 PM

Post #1934 of 2979 (22646 views)
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Re: [gmircos] Help! I have questions! [In reply to] Can't Post

All 3 are notorious for poor funding, although maryland is where one of my undergrad cw teachers got her mfa, and she said nothing but great things about the program, especially the faculty. She also told me about alternate graduate assistantships, and that few people go totally unfunded, though the amount, and means vary a bit. She did say that College Park was a bit of a dump, and that she commuted from VA (about 40 minutes away).


umass76


Mar 20, 2008, 12:25 AM

Post #1935 of 2979 (22619 views)
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Re: [symmetrical] Help! I have questions! [In reply to] Can't Post

Actually, Colorado State's funding is above-average, and the student satisfaction rate there seems to be extremely high. Maryland does indeed have poor funding--and in the view of many, a poor location (but to each his own)--but the faculty is certainly well-regarded. Columbia College has a good reputation in poetry, largely because of its journal associations and its undergraduate poetry major. But it's probably the lowest-ranked of the three, with Colorado State being (marginally) the highest, due to Maryland's severe funding issues. Colorado State is definitely [just] within the top fifty, based on everything I've seen and the data I've compiled; Maryland is more likely between fifty and sixty-five, to the extent we can put a number on these things.

Good luck,
S.

For MFA data, polls, and rankings: http://www.sethabramson.blogspot.com/


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Adam
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Mar 20, 2008, 12:45 AM

Post #1936 of 2979 (22600 views)
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Re: [pugalisious] Holy mackerel! [In reply to] Can't Post

The impression that I got was that SLC accepted about twelve in each genre. I have no clue how many apps they received, but I'd like to.


bighark


Mar 20, 2008, 12:47 AM

Post #1937 of 2979 (22599 views)
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Re: [gmircos] Help! I have questions! [In reply to] Can't Post

You would want to ask if there's any truth to the rumors that some Columbia fiction workshops have had undergraduates in them.


Raignn



Mar 20, 2008, 9:38 AM

Post #1938 of 2979 (22461 views)
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Having undergraduates in workshops isn't necessarily a bad thing, as long (of course) it's a few outstanding students and not just anyone. In my opinion, the more, educated feedback you get from a variety of sources the better!


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BLUECHEESE


Mar 20, 2008, 9:41 AM

Post #1939 of 2979 (22457 views)
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Re: [umass76] Help! I have questions! [In reply to] Can't Post

Well, I'd go where you get funding, and if you don't get funding, I'd say, wait a year and sign up for some summer workshops and the like. Out of those, though, I think Coloroado State has the best faculty

(I would say that their poetry program would rank much higher than the program as a whole if there were a faculty based rating of some sort, it is just a shame they don't have better funding. From what I gather, if you have previous teaching experience, and you wrote an impressive TA statement, you stand a good chance. You're competing against the MA students for funding, though. The poetry faculty there is already a big deal, and is going to be an even bigger deal down the road.)


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Adam
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Mar 20, 2008, 10:21 AM

Post #1940 of 2979 (22415 views)
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Re: [BLUECHEESE] Help! I have questions! [In reply to] Can't Post

In regard to "where the funding is"... Neither Pitt nor SLC offered funding, but I'm waitlisted at Bowling Green (Full tuition waiver and 8,000 TAship. It's not nearly as notable a program as the other two, should I still take the funding if I get into BG?


jvogtman


Mar 20, 2008, 10:33 AM

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I may be biased because I applied to Bowling Green thinking it was a pretty good school, but-- as far as I know Bowling Green has a pretty great reputation, is an old program, and is sort of a "rising" program. I don't know if anyone else has thoughts on this? --In any case, my opinion would be to go where the funding is. Esp. when deciding between programs that (I think?) are not THAT far apart as far as prestige goes.


lostinthought


Mar 20, 2008, 10:41 AM

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Re: [jvogtman] Help! I have questions! [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree whole-heartedly! Go where the funding is--why go into serious debt when you don't have to?


bedefan


Mar 20, 2008, 10:46 AM

Post #1943 of 2979 (22358 views)
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Re: [kate88] Holy mackerel! [In reply to] Can't Post

I specialize in dead languages, latin and greek (mostly early medieval, some classical), and I'm hoping to pick up some more of them soon if I can.


Raignn



Mar 20, 2008, 10:47 AM

Post #1944 of 2979 (22358 views)
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Re: [pensive] Help! I have questions! [In reply to] Can't Post

I have to agree. Go where the funding is! You should absolutely not have to go into debt to get an MFA. I also got into Pittsburgh, but have told them if they can't give me funding (which they won't be able to) I'm going to have to decline my offer. I've been waitlisted at 4 schools. Even if I didn't get into any of my waitlists I still wouldn't go to Pittsburgh. I personally feel very strongly about not going into debt for this degree. There are plenty of excellent programs that fully fund.


gmircos


Mar 20, 2008, 11:05 AM

Post #1945 of 2979 (22319 views)
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Re: [Raignn] Help! I have questions! [In reply to] Can't Post

I am a Colorado native an in state tuition is very affordable so funding at CSU is really not an issue there. My biggest concern though, is going into a program that will do the most for my writing and for my life post-MFA as well. I feel like Maryland has a much better reputation that CSU but I don't really know how much that matters?

what do you guys think?


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Adam
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Mar 20, 2008, 11:35 AM

Post #1946 of 2979 (22266 views)
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Re: [Raignn] Help! I have questions! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks all! I emailed the program and asked where I stand on the waitlist. Still waiting to hear back, this is, if they can tell me anything.


dickenscratch



Mar 20, 2008, 1:18 PM

Post #1947 of 2979 (22116 views)
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It really seems to me that ranking with funding as a criteria is only helpful when you're applying to places, not after you've been accepted to several places and know what your funding is at all of them. At that point, if you're into say, three schools all well-funded, you are deciding based on reputation, faculty, location, etc. So, while I love Kealey and Seth for all their hard work on these rankings, might I suggest a post-acceptance ranking system to help us all decide between offers-with-funding? (Yes, I know, as if you haven't done enough for us poor suckers...we totally love you guys!)

The fine applicant above (gmircos) is a fine example of this, I think. He's (sorry if it's she) into three schools and I assume he knows what his funding is at each school. So what does a ranking of the schools based on funding help him at this point?

I also have a decent plan for someone to solve the world's energy crisis, if anyone is interested in doing all the leg work.


umass76


Mar 20, 2008, 1:35 PM

Post #1948 of 2979 (22072 views)
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Re: [dickenscratch] Help! I have questions! [In reply to] Can't Post

DS,

Without consideration of funding, Maryland (historically) might rank a smidge ahead of Colorado State--but only by a hair, I think. Part of the problem is that (and this is just my own opinion, I can't speak for Tom) I think funding affects reputation. Does anyone believe Pitt would have the same reputation as it does this very day, if it was a fully-funded program like Florida or Cornell? Pitt's poor funding is engendering negative feelings about the school, and I think we see that even here at P&W. Maryland's in the same boat. In contrast, I've seen CSU do nothing in terms of funding and student outreach except to increase its esteem in the minds of applicants. While by no means does funding = reputation, or even anything close to it, the two cannot be completely divorced, either. Which is why, at this point, I think CSU both offers more money than Maryland and will have a better reputation going forward. I also think, lest we elevate too generously to a pedestal the considerations which somehow seem "obvious" to us with respect to reputation--like, that Maryland has a better one than CSU--can we just acknowledge that all that's happening there is that folks are working off the U.S. News & World Report Rankings collected twelve years ago, in 1996? Because I'm not really seeing any organic reason for Maryland to top CSU in 2008, especially given that polling shows CSU is much more popular right now.

Best,
S.


gmircos


Mar 20, 2008, 1:41 PM

Post #1949 of 2979 (22059 views)
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Re: [dickenscratch] Help! I have questions! [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm with you on all of that, dickenscratch. (I am a "He" by the way.) This is where my problem is, I want to go to the program that ends up being the best for me out of the three, but because we aren't talking about top ten schools here, it is a very hard choice to make. I suppose the biggest thing for me is student satisfaction and post graduation options. I think all three programs have pluses and drawbacks in both of these departments, but no one really gives advice for a student who makes it into three programs which all happen to be his backup schools. (I applied to 9).


reality writes


Mar 20, 2008, 1:48 PM

Post #1950 of 2979 (22039 views)
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I say go with the better reputation, and maybe visit the school before deciding.

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