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hackofalltrades


Mar 4, 2008, 3:48 PM

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Re: [amandadeleted] columbia acceptance [In reply to] Can't Post

First off, congratulations!

Half seems to be as good as it gets at Columbia; I know friends who got $7-12,000 their first years in previous years, as well as people who didn't get squat.

And as an aspiring Columbian MFAer, I must ask: when'd you get the call? Afternoon, evening? I'm dying here.


asneth


Mar 4, 2008, 4:06 PM

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Re: [Sugah] OTIS [In reply to] Can't Post

I go to Pitt for CNF! Congrats! If you have any questions, please feel free to message me privately.

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jessielr7


Mar 4, 2008, 4:15 PM

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Re: [taggie7] Texas State [In reply to] Can't Post

Ugh! I'm in hell! The mail just came, and still no rejection letter from Tx State. My app. status still reads "Thanks for your interest..." (aka the kiss of death), but somehow their rejection still managed to reach southern California before Austin. It's like they want to extract each little bit of hope from me bit by bit. Ah, well, bottle of scotch and a pack of cigarettes... that's how we do it in Texas.


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Adam
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Mar 4, 2008, 5:31 PM

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Re: [Raignn] pitt nonfiction [In reply to] Can't Post

Those of you accepted to Pitt...I think 80,000$ for three years is incorrect. It is 27,000 grand for full-time... meaning 72 credit hours spread over three years. The MFA is only 36 hours..(1103$ per credit) By my math, that is 40,000$. I could be wrong... Anyone else?


taggie7


Mar 4, 2008, 5:37 PM

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Re: [pensive] pitt nonfiction [In reply to] Can't Post

You're probably right... but figuring in cost of living, etc., it'll be high anyway. For me... that's just not a debt that I'm willing to take on at this point. I'm still undecided, but... it's weighing pretty heavy for me at the moment.


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Adam
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Mar 4, 2008, 5:42 PM

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Re: [taggie7] pitt nonfiction [In reply to] Can't Post

Just trying to talk myself into debt as I sit here waiting on my other schools.


cecilpeoples


Mar 4, 2008, 6:21 PM

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texas state [In reply to] Can't Post

did you guys get in for poetry or fiction at texas state??


sr393


Mar 4, 2008, 6:42 PM

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Re: [pensive] pitt nonfiction [In reply to] Can't Post

While I am not advocating going into debt that you'll never realistically be able to get out of, I think it's important to remember that most graduate programs require students to take on loans for tuition and living expenses. The key factor is whether you think you will come out of the program with a skill that allows you to take a job that 1. you otherwise would not be able to acquire without your degree; and 2. provides some reasonable level of income so that you can live and repay your loans over time. Most educational debt can be structured into manageable payments if you have serious income restrictions. I know this from experience. Most of my friends have professional degrees that did not immediately lead to high paying jobs - public policy; library science; and even MDs - and we live in New York City, one of the most expensive cities in the country. Is it hard to manage? Some times. Would my friends do it all over again if they could? Most of them would, although not all.

That said, I spent a lot of money getting a masters in public policy, and one of the factors I considered when applying for MFA programs was that I didn't want to pay for the Ivy League degree again. My calculation was all about what price point was worth it to me. As a result, I applied to two schools that I knew I would enroll in regardless of funding. I crossed out two others because the expense didn't seem worth the benefit. Perhaps if I don't get in anywhere this year, I'd reconsider applying to those other ones next year, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

Anyway, rushing into debt is never a good idea, but expecting a free ride for education is pretty unrealistic, too. There are definite pros and cons that are worth considering before you turn any school down. Just some thoughts.


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sicofelephants


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Mar 4, 2008, 7:13 PM

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Re: [cecilpeoples] texas state [In reply to] Can't Post

poetry


amandadeleted


Mar 4, 2008, 8:15 PM

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Re: [hackofalltrades] columbia acceptance [In reply to] Can't Post

That's sort of what I figured with the financial aid. I'm not sure when the call was, but I picked up the message around 10:30 am West Coast time.
Best of luck to you!


podi


Mar 4, 2008, 9:32 PM

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Re: [annie0] I'M IN! [In reply to] Can't Post

Congratulations, Hollins people!

It's a special little program, about 12 people per year in different genres. Idyllic campus in the mountains. Annie Dillard, Lee Smith, Madison Smartt Bell, Natasha Tretheway, Kiran Desai and many, many others went there. Pretty strong faculty with good writers-in-residence. You can PM me with more questions. Good luck!


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Vanessa
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Mar 4, 2008, 11:54 PM

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Annie! congrats on the acceptances! maybe you'll end up in New York afterall and we can get coffee and talk CNF...


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Jeanne Lyet Gassman
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Mar 5, 2008, 12:32 AM

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Annie,

You'll love Lee Smith. I was in her workshop at Duke Univ. (many moons ago), and she was a delight. Her feedback was insightful, and we had a blast at every single session. Congrats and enjoy!

Jeanne


http://www.jeannelyetgassman.com
http://jeannelyetgassman.blogspot.com


looking4


Mar 5, 2008, 5:35 AM

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Re: [sr393] pitt nonfiction [In reply to] Can't Post

Although you make a valid point I just wanted to throw my two cents in:

When I was considering this process I heard a lot of feedback from professors, people in graduate school now, and people with graduate degrees. The one thing one of my MFA-holding professors told me was that NO ONE in their right mind pays for that degree. It is funded through TAing or other financial assistance. The reason he told me this was because you don't need the degree. It wont affect your career in any way, shape, or form and it wont guarantee income of any kind. I think one thing to carefully consider in this process (which I've heard very little talk of in general) is life AFTER an MFA. I've known a few people with these degrees but only one person with an MFA in Creative Writing. He had gotten his from Boston University right after college. I met him in 2006 when I was almost done as an undergrad and I took a telemarketing gig. He was my co-worker. He was unpublished, and he was 50 years old.

I think if you need to fill in some areas of financial need with loans then that's reasonable. But I don't think anyone should have to pay for tuition for this. This is a terminal degree.

PS: NYC is not ONE of the most expensive, it is THE most expensive city in the US. I should know, I've lived here all my life.


sr393


Mar 5, 2008, 8:15 AM

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Re: [looking4] pitt nonfiction [In reply to] Can't Post

I think that is a very fair point, although I've noticed that some people use an MFA to teach writing, so that might be the exception to the idea that one doesn't need the degree. It is certainly, however, why I decided to only apply to schools with reasonable-ish tuition! I live in New York City, too. My husband has a career here, so it is not possible for me to move to attend a program unless I want to leave him behind. (I know there are people who do that, but I suspect I'd be miserable.) As a result, I only applied to two schools, neither of from which I have heard anything.


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jayg


Mar 5, 2008, 9:55 AM

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Does anyone have any more news about Syracuse except for the one acceptance yesterday? How about Oregon or Florida State?

Side note: I used to thing these blogs were the devil, that they were making me crazy, and my husband and all my friends told me to stop checking them. But now I am so grateful to have all of you here. No one else understands the ridiculous purgatory we are all in, how important this all feels, how we're waiting for validation on our writing and for the next phase of our lives to be decided.

Anyway, thanks to everyone for sharing information and support!


paperplanes


Mar 5, 2008, 10:32 AM

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jayg


Mar 5, 2008, 10:42 AM

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Re: [paperplanes] syracuse news [In reply to] Can't Post

Do you know if that means that the people who are getting fellowships are being notified now? LIke the person yesterday?


cellularsoup


Mar 5, 2008, 11:28 AM

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does anyone accepted to u-mass know what the deal with deadlines is? my acceptance letter from the graduate program says i should make a decision within 15 days, though technically i have until april 15. my acceptance from the program says i need to notify them by april 1 at the latest. why so many conflicts? it's driving me insane!


whataneatgirl


Mar 5, 2008, 11:34 AM

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my understanding is that we have to return the postcard they sent in order to defer our decision until april--i forget if it was the 1st or the 15th. i don't know, i'm kind of increasingly disenchanted with the discrepancies in decision deadlines.


bennyprof


Mar 5, 2008, 12:21 PM

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Re: [jayg] pitt nonfiction [In reply to] Can't Post

Got my rejection from FSU today in fiction.

If you don't get a letter sometime in the next few it means you've been short-listed. The grad advisor told me they have 65 on their short list for fiction.


jayg


Mar 5, 2008, 12:26 PM

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Re: [bennyprof] pitt nonfiction [In reply to] Can't Post

Boo, I'm sorry. These rejections are brutal.

Do you mind if I ask where you live? I'm in Chicago, so I'm wondering if it will take longer to get here.


bennyprof


Mar 5, 2008, 12:30 PM

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taggie7


Mar 5, 2008, 12:42 PM

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New Hampshire [In reply to] Can't Post

In at UNH, fiction... if your application status changed to "waiting for final dean approval" CALL... it could go either way, which is a pretty sad thing for some people.

Good luck!


Kadence


Mar 5, 2008, 1:09 PM

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i'm still "under dept review" huh? probably not a good sign.


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