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LesK
Les
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Feb 16, 2008, 6:07 PM

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bktv,

I'm so sorry to hear that, but if you still have apps out (even if it looks like phone calls have been made) there's still hope--even if it comes via a wait list, and as you said, there's always next year.


bktv


Feb 16, 2008, 7:14 PM

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I appreciate the sympathetic words. It's not over for me yet this year. I still have five more apps. out there:

Georgia
Georgia State
Tennessee
Illinois-Chicago
Nebraska

However, Missouri and Texas Tech were my top choices in terms of faculty and fit with the department, and where I had positive interaction/contact with faculty. I guess my pessimistic logic is kicking in and assuming rejections from the others based on no contact/less of a department fit. I think I'm going to hold tight this year with these, and perhaps next year consider schools like Oklahoma State. If anyone is still looking for more programs to add, though, both North Dakota and Southern Mississippi list deadlines of March 1st on their websites.


LesK
Les
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Feb 16, 2008, 8:38 PM

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I appreciate the sympathetic words. It's not over for me yet this year. I still have five more apps. out there:

Georgia
Georgia State
Tennessee
Illinois-Chicago
Nebraska


All five look like great schools (to me). I was particularly intrigued by Georgia State myself. And Nebraska, two words: Prairie Schooner!

In fact, most of those will be on my list next year if need be.


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I guess my pessimistic logic is kicking in and assuming rejections from the others based on no contact/less of a department fit.


Let it kick in if you need to...

I don't know how others feel, but after this initial rush of phone calls, and not getting one, even though more than half of my programs haven't made any contact with applicants yet (other than "your application has all materials") and none have sent me a rejection letter (soon! soon!), I've actually found it easier to function (at work, in my writing, in my life) by assuming the worst. I've started to look at this like, say, a first book competition or applying for a grant, where I think, wow, that would be nice, but assume it won't happen.

Maybe that's just peculiar mental gymnastics, but it's helped me keep the last few days manageable after a week of unproductive agony. Point being, whatever you need.


(This post was edited by LesK on Feb 17, 2008, 12:23 AM)


LesK
Les
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Feb 16, 2008, 9:11 PM

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Oh I forgot to add:


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I think I'm going to hold tight this year with these, and perhaps next year consider schools like Oklahoma State. If anyone is still looking for more programs to add, though, both North Dakota and Southern Mississippi list deadlines of March 1st on their websites.


Cincy has an absurdly late deadline, but that deadline is a peculiar one. If you waited for it, you'd have funding issues (probably) andthe likelihood of being admitted would probably be reduced. Maybe you could get in if you had some money stashed somewhere to pay for the program.....I don't know.

My point? Make sure you touch base at least with the program coordinator or the secretary if you apply to a program with a later deadline now--just to make sure funding (and, I guess, other financial aid opportunities) aren't restricted by applying so late.


gcsumfa


Feb 17, 2008, 12:32 AM

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gcsumfa,

No word on Cincy that I'm aware of...

The gradcafe and Seth's blog seem to suggest sometime next week, but the email confirmation of a complete app that I got seemed to suggest that the admissions committee meeting wasn't even until March.


Yeah, Cincy told me early March as well...same as Ohio and Western Michigan. But like you, I'm hoping to hear from someone this week.


gcsumfa


Feb 17, 2008, 12:38 AM

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I'm surprised that more people don't talk about Oklahoma State. A.I. teaches there, and Jon Billman for fiction. The Cimarron Review is housed at OSU. I love the fact that I didn't have to send GRE scores.


LesK
Les
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Feb 17, 2008, 12:54 AM

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I'm surprised that more people don't talk about Oklahoma State. A.I. teaches there, and Jon Billman for fiction. The Cimarron Review is housed at OSU. I love the fact that I didn't have to send GRE scores.


Did you have to send a paper? Or just your fiction sample?

It looks like a really good program. I mean, Cimarron Review...and Ai? That's awesome. Also, it looks like they take Spring admissions. I'll definitely consider that (if need be).

Poking around on their website though the funding doesn't look very good. I'm horribly afraid of more debt....


gcsumfa


Feb 17, 2008, 1:09 AM

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I'm surprised that more people don't talk about Oklahoma State. A.I. teaches there, and Jon Billman for fiction. The Cimarron Review is housed at OSU. I love the fact that I didn't have to send GRE scores.


Did you have to send a paper? Or just your fiction sample?

It looks like a really good program. I mean, Cimarron Review...and Ai? That's awesome. Also, it looks like they take Spring admissions. I'll definitely consider that (if need be).

Poking around on their website though the funding doesn't look very good. I'm horribly afraid of more debt....


Just a fiction sample and an SOP.

The website isn't very clear about funding, but the department secretary told me in an email "waiver of in state and out of state tuition for six hours per semester, a monthly stipend, and health insurance."

It's a Big 12 school so I imagine they would at least pay 12K for PhD students.

It was worth a shot...you never know what a program might offer you...the fact that I didn't have to spend money on sending GRE scores caused me to say, "what the heck..why not?"


LesK
Les
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Feb 17, 2008, 1:15 AM

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Indeed, it sounds like it.


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The website isn't very clear about funding, but the department secretary told me in an email "waiver of in state and out of state tuition for six hours per semester, a monthly stipend, and health insurance."

It's a Big 12 school so I imagine they would at least pay 12K for PhD students.


Hmm....if that's the case, they should hire me to rewrite their website. That's funding. Seems ok to me for a 2/2.

If your "why the heck not" works out, you must tell us more!


gcsumfa


Feb 17, 2008, 1:18 AM

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Indeed, it sounds like it.


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The website isn't very clear about funding, but the department secretary told me in an email "waiver of in state and out of state tuition for six hours per semester, a monthly stipend, and health insurance."

It's a Big 12 school so I imagine they would at least pay 12K for PhD students.


Hmm....if that's the case, they should hire me to rewrite their website. That's funding. Seems ok to me for a 2/2.

If your "why the heck not" works out, you must tell us more!


Will do!

Though I honestly like all of the programs I applied to...it's like, some days I think I really want to attend school y, and other days it's school x, etc.


LesK
Les
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Feb 17, 2008, 11:23 AM

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Yeah, I can relate to this:


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Though I honestly like all of the programs I applied to...it's like, some days I think I really want to attend school y, and other days it's school x, etc.


..but only for a couple of schools. More and more, I seem to be convincing myself how great schools I didn't apply to like Denver, USC, and Oklahoma State would be....


stephkarto1
Stephanie Kartalopoulos

Feb 20, 2008, 10:11 AM

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I know I am probably the last person on earth who should be asking this, but I will anyway: has anyone heard a definite "no" from Utah? I know I didn't get the "we want you" phone call that people started to get a week and a half or so ago, but at the same time, my profile on the "track admissions" link on the Utah website still says that my status is "out to department."

And yeah I know I got into Missouri--but I spent time and money on each of my applications, and even though I know where I am headed come August, I still want to know the results.

How are all of you holding up? There's so much activity with the schools admitting people for the MFA, but it seems like so much of that activity is from the (vastly and grossly many) schools that don't offer PhD.

My fingers are crossed for everyone.


LesK
Les
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Feb 20, 2008, 10:29 AM

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Nope. The only PhD rejections I've seen reported are from Texas Tech. I've not gotten any yet and am expecting them next week or so. Along similar lines, does anyone know if Utah informs waitlist victims (err...I mean applicants) or do they simply wait and roll admissions as need be?


Stewbags


Feb 20, 2008, 10:29 AM

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Hey Steph,

I'm probably a bit of a different case, as I applied to the MFA/PhD combined (being that I only have a BA). They said no to the PhD, and yes to the MFA. I wouldn't put much stock into the website admissions tracking, as my profile still says "out to department" as well. Not that it matters if you're set on Missouri (congrats, by the way!), but I'd say it's very possible that you're on a waitlist of some sort. From what they told me, there is a panel of both poets and academics for all PhD applicants - and you need the consensus of both before you get the green light.

Stew


spamela


Feb 20, 2008, 10:49 AM

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LesK-A friend of mine at Utah was told that he was on the waitlist two years ago. I don't know what number he was, but he got in and is very happy there.

Stewbags, do you think you'll go to Utah? I'm in for the PhD. We may be workshop buddies.

Steph, I'm chomping at the bit to hear back from everybody else too, though I'm fairly certain Utah's the one for me. I think it's more to do with wanting to be done with the whole (expensive!) process and be able to start planning the next phase (when to quit job, when to move out there, when to start freaking out about financial situation, etc.)


LesK
Les
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Feb 20, 2008, 10:57 AM

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spamela,

Congrats on the acceptance to Utah! Oh, and thanks for the info.

Les


gcsumfa


Feb 20, 2008, 11:00 AM

Post #317 of 2090 (45488 views)
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Someone posted over on Seth's blog that Western Michigan will notify in March.

Cincy told me March.

Ohio told me March.

Nebraska and Tennessee have a history of reporting in March.

So I guess it's March for me.


stephkarto1
Stephanie Kartalopoulos

Feb 20, 2008, 11:03 AM

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Hey, congratulations on getting into Utah for MFA!

If I am on a waitlist--that would be interesting. I mean I pretty much know my decision (but I am visiting Missouri next month for an admitted students welcome day sort of thing and won't tell the program until after then), but I do sort of want to hear the results, you know? I spent so much time with each application--researching programs, talking to people, looking into the cost of living in each city, thinking about why I would want to attend that program, enrolling friends to help me look over my SOPs and choose poems for my manuscripts, preparing for the (stupid) GREs, etc.--and I really just want to know how everything ends up. That's all. Decision made or no, the work I put into these applications matters to me.

*shrug*


stephkarto1
Stephanie Kartalopoulos

Feb 20, 2008, 11:11 AM

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You know, I think that while I want to hear the results from each school I have already transferred my energy fairly well to the "planning for what's next" sort of thing. I have vague timelines in my head--when to tell my boss I am leaving, when to get a car, when to start sending boxes to my friends who live in MO, etc.--and I started looking up apartment rentals in Columbia and spent some time on the phone yesterday with landlords to learn when their August 1 rentals will be put on the market and whatnot.

It's so strange. It's so exciting. It's all still so (horribly) far away. But it will all come so, so, so quickly, I think, once May 1 comes...then it's 3 months, and not over 5, and then it's warm weather and running outside to play and having to pack and my birthday and a poetry reading I am giving (which is my first one since I finished my MFA program almost 5 years ago).

Wow. I could give myself a headache if I think about how much I have yet to do in Boston before I leave this summer and how hard it will be to say goodbye to the people in my life (even if they're all universally psyched beyond belief for me). I could give myself a headache, also, if I sit there and think about how much time I have until my program starts, how much time I am stuck in this (godforsaken) beige-walled cubicle land...

Instead, I will go to the break room on my floor and pump quarters into the vending machine and get a diet coke. Because this Greek mama really needs the caffeine...


Stewbags


Feb 20, 2008, 11:14 AM

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Oh I couldn't agree more. Even if you don't take an option, you want to know if it's there or not (if for nothing else than all of the hard work you put in.

Spamela - congrats on getting into the PhD! Can't really say where I'll end up yet - I plan to visit each place I get in and see what feels right - where the best fit and feel are. Right now that's only two (Utah and Michigan). Utah also hasn't given me a definite on funding yet, and that will certainly play into things. Do you have plans to visit at all?


spamela


Feb 20, 2008, 11:26 AM

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Ooh Michigan too! Congratulations, that is a wonderful program. I visited SLC in the fall. It's a beautiful city but of course, kind of weird. The Mormon temple is the centerpiece of the whole thing and the city's on a grid. Streets are named for how far they are from the temple (so for example 1100 E is 11 blocks east of the temple). However, the University is "off the grid" and there are some very cool/funky areas where students live. The whole thing is surrounded by mountains which is pretty. Also, it seems to be very affordable, thank god.


pedro


Feb 20, 2008, 4:28 PM

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Hey all,

There don't seem to be many resources for prospective PhD/CRW students, eh? Glad to find this board. Right now, I'm trying to decide between Utah and Missouri (PhD fiction) and I'm having a hard time--haven't even received the official financial aid thingie from both schools--I'm worried that the funding/living expenses situation will influence my final decision more than I'd like. Both Missouri and Utah seem like wonderful programs, though. Spamela, which genre are you in? And do you have any insider info on apartment searches in Salt Lake? I've done some research--craigslist, etc--but I'm curious about your findings.
Also, hello, Stephanie! I might see you at that new student thing next month--I'm planning to fly over to check it out.
Best of luck to everyone--

Joe


spamela


Feb 20, 2008, 4:53 PM

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Congratulations on both acceptances Joe! That's a nice decision to have to make :)

My Salt Lake City investigations have led me to believe that one can get a large 1 bedroom in the Avenues or Sugar House areas for around $500 w/o utilities and $550-600 with. I'm from a college town by way of NYC, so this is pretty much the cheapest I've ever seen rents. My friend in SLC has a really nice studio in a beautiful old mansion on the historical registry, walking distance from school, and I believe he pays something like $450 (with utilities included) for it.

Good luck to you!


stephkarto1
Stephanie Kartalopoulos

Feb 20, 2008, 7:45 PM

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Joe, congrats on Utah and Missouri. What a choice to have to make!!! I can only imagine that it won't be easy. Both are great programs.

I will be in Missouri next month for the welcome thing. I found cheap airfare to St. Louis on one of the travel websites, so I snatched up a ticket and then reserved a rental car.

It will be interesting to see what the day's events are. It will also be so cool to meet Scott Cairns and Aliki Barnstone after having spent so much time thinking about how much I want to work with them. I'm a bit nervous, though, because I tend to do better in a sharp little phone call or a swift e-mail than I tend to do in person; I'm afraid that I can come across as an awkward, shy, nervous little mess of a person.

Ahh well.
Maybe I will see you in a few weeks!


chitown


Feb 20, 2008, 7:48 PM

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I am waiting to hear back from:

FSU
Tennessee
Cincinnati
Illinois Chicago
Binghamton


Also waiting to hear back from several MFA programs (I have an MA). Expecting the worst but still hoping for the best...

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