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timlockridge


Aug 4, 2005, 1:54 PM

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Apparently the new US News rankings are out... has anyone seen them?


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Stacy Patton Anderson

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Aug 5, 2005, 12:11 PM

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I just went to the US News website and couldn't find anything about MFA programs at all--not even the old rankings. What's your source on the rumor the new rankings are out?


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timlockridge


Aug 6, 2005, 9:33 PM

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I just went to the US News website and couldn't find anything about MFA programs at all--not even the old rankings. What's your source on the rumor the new rankings are out?


My friend is the manager at a local bookstore and was talking about the new rankings. I'll drop by in the next day or so and check them out.


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Bob S.
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Aug 7, 2005, 2:45 PM

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The US News graduate school rankings are out but they didn't update the old MFA rankings, which are so outdated now that they aren't even re-publishing them. It's been, what, 10 years now? Doubtful we'll see an MFA ranking again.


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Stacy Patton Anderson

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Aug 8, 2005, 7:00 PM

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well, 8 years. why do you think we won't ever see them again?


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Texasfornow


Aug 9, 2005, 4:07 PM

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why? because they're totally useless. essentially, if I remember correctly, the rankings from 97 were based on some pretty basic, broad criteria...I think it was based only on reputation, which is a matter of perception, as opposed to things like class size, money, publishing records, etc...however, the top 20 or 30 in that list are generally good programs...don't bother with the rankings, just do your own research.


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Stacy Patton Anderson

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Aug 9, 2005, 5:15 PM

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Well, you were right. When timlockridge posted that new rankings were available I went right over to USNews website and bought the new 2006 grad school rankings (there was no way to tell from the site what programs were included without forking over the cc#). Then, after searching the site and finding absolutely nothing, I sent them an email asking whether the writing program rankings had been updated, and requesting a refund if they hadn't. Here's their response:

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Unfortunately we no longer rank creative writing. The last time we did so was in 1997 and you can find most of these rankings in local libraries. If you have purchased the product and would like a refund you can email refunds@usnews.com Regards, Webmaster

So, there you have it. I already know where I intend to apply, so it doesn't really matter. I've been reading this board and researching writers at various programs for over a year now, but still, I was curious to see what USNews would make of some of the things that are going on in MFA Academia (like Samantha Chang newly in charge at Iowa, the well-funded Texas programs, etc. . .)


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fermat


Aug 10, 2005, 11:56 AM

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For what it's worth, this article mentions in passing a ranking that will come out in '07.


Texasfornow


Aug 10, 2005, 2:34 PM

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regarding that article: the director of that program would have been a huge turnoff for me if I were applying now...He sounded like one of those guys in a weightroom who asks everyone who much they benchpress...


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Roger Turnau

Sep 30, 2005, 12:07 PM

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I realize I'm adding to a dead thread, but I wanted to put this in for anyone who reads this in the future. I'm in FSU's writing program right now. Don't let the bloviating put you off -- it's a great program. Warm, collegial, and supportive. The faculty are very approachable, and there's a fairly consistent emphasis on publishing (which is a good dragon to slay if you're at all career-minded).

I too winced when I read that article, but mostly because the attitude on display was not a particularly representative of our program.

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