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theootto


Mar 9, 2009, 2:42 PM

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I hear you, Raysen. But in Mizzou's defense, people who look awesome on paper can turn out to be a bad fit for the program. If Mizzou had two super-stellar MA students, wouldn't that known quantity be hard to pass up?

Still, I wanted to go there so bad.


abcd

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Mar 9, 2009, 2:47 PM

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That might be true, but I know one fiction person who was offered a position but turned it down who was not a student at Missouri. (In case you think they might be biased to their people) :)


stephkarto1
Stephanie Kartalopoulos

Mar 9, 2009, 2:58 PM

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The two Mizzou fiction writers who are currently MA students and staying on for the PhD are students who are *really* strong writers. Mizzou is one of those schools that has completely different consideration for who to let in for master's (people whose writing shows potential) and then for PhD (writing that shows achievement and still room for the mentorship that comes with a dissertation director relationship, writing that shows enough strength and artistry to gain serious publications, academic promise for a student to carry a serious scholarly component along with the creative, and overall promise that this is a writer-scholar who can do very well in passing comps, writing academic stuff as well as creative, etc.).

While it is true that the two fiction writers who were accepted are certainly 'known quantities' to the fiction professors, they are not necessarily known quantities to the entire admissions committee. And ultimately, they are people who submitted stories and academic writing samples that, a year and a half after entering a master's program, had to show significant achievement instead of promise. And had to be the ones who shows the MOST achievement of an entire bunch of applications.

Granted, I say this as a current first year PhD student at Mizzou. But I also say this as someone who knows a bit about admissions here, who went through my own application process, and who was in the same nail-biting situation of awaiting responses just over a year ago. I have a pretty good sense, at least so far, of the pros and cons of my university and my program to be objective enough while still maintaining my loyalty to my program and my very sincere enthusiasm to *still* be here.


betp


Mar 9, 2009, 3:10 PM

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i think mizzou took eight people total (cnf, fiction & poetry). ohio u took three people this year--one per genre.

i'm still waiting to hear on houston, utah & fsu. (just got my western michigan rejection: wasn't too excited by the prospect of kalamazoo winters, anyway.) i'm assuming utah and florida are no's, though i haven't heard from either. has anyone been rejected from fsu? or are we all in limbo?

and has anyone made any decisions? i visited ohio last week & will visit mizzou this week--then will jump on the decision train as soon as i get back! (so someone on the waitlist can get bumped in asap.) i was on a few waitlists for mfa, and remember it all too clearly... but take heart if you're on! i got into my current school off a waitlist for mfa--just squeaked in, and have loved it.


gcsumfa


Mar 9, 2009, 4:24 PM

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i think mizzou took eight people total (cnf, fiction & poetry). ohio u took three people this year--one per genre.

i'm still waiting to hear on houston, utah & fsu. (just got my western michigan rejection: wasn't too excited by the prospect of kalamazoo winters, anyway.) i'm assuming utah and florida are no's, though i haven't heard from either. has anyone been rejected from fsu? or are we all in limbo?

and has anyone made any decisions? i visited ohio last week & will visit mizzou this week--then will jump on the decision train as soon as i get back! (so someone on the waitlist can get bumped in asap.) i was on a few waitlists for mfa, and remember it all too clearly... but take heart if you're on! i got into my current school off a waitlist for mfa--just squeaked in, and have loved it.



I don't have any inside info, but--as I'm sure most of you know right now--MI's economy is in the toilet. The money is really, really tight at the moment. 2-3 fiction writers graduating next year though...I think only one graduating this year...


kvandegraaf


Mar 9, 2009, 6:35 PM

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Well, March 9th has come and gone, and I still don't have any additional information about my status. I'm still listed as "under review," same as before the weekend. I checked around, and the closest thing I found to news was an email rejection to the English PhD on gradcafe. My little email inbox is, sadly, empty! I think I'm probably going to send over an email tonight; I have a decision deadline at another program that's coming up fast. If I do find out any additional info, I will post here. Hope some of you heard something and can give us the scoop!


theootto


Mar 9, 2009, 7:16 PM

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Hey kvandegraaf,
I've checked my Nebraska status several times today--still under review, like yours. Last year, my friend got an email acceptance from them, and I think the timing of her notification would have corresponded to yesterday (as in the Sunday after their Friday dept admission committee meeting).

That would be awesome if you emailed them! Thank you in advance!
And best of luck!


loaf

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Mar 10, 2009, 1:06 AM

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I also haven't heard anything from Nebraska and am still under review.

I'm visiting UW-Milwaukee tomorrow, but I don't know if I'll have a chance to actually talk to anyone from the school. It was a last minute visit because I happen to be "just" five hours away right now, because of a family emergency (I'm usually in Florida).

I'm currently at FSU for my MFA and I don't know that I have any inside information other than I know we've had to cut a lot of things lately, and it wouldn't surprise me if they admitted current MFA students into the PhD...they do that a lot. But don't worry--I didn't apply there. Didn't want to stay any longer in the south (I'm from the Midwest originally and need to be closer to ailing parents).

I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that funding will come through for Milwaukee, or that someone from Utah will decide not to go and I'll scoop up the waitlist spot I have!


cantonioni


Mar 10, 2009, 11:12 AM

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Hey, y'all who are wondering about Nebraska-
I'm at UNL currently; I'll be on campus tomorrow morning, so if you haven't heard anything by then, I'll pop into the office and see if I can find out what the status is. I don't know what other people's experiences have been, but I was accepted via snail mail, so if you were told the 9th, that might mean that they were sending letters out on the 9th.
-c


kvandegraaf


Mar 10, 2009, 11:56 AM

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That's lovely of you! Thank you. Unfortunately, I just don't think I can wait for the snail mail if I want to seriously consider attending. I've already asked for one extension on my offer and I don't fancy asking for another. I think I will go ahead and send out that email. Is Gerry Shapiro the right person to be contacting? I kind of feel like an ass bugging schools about my admission decision, but what else can I do?


kvandegraaf


Mar 10, 2009, 3:02 PM

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I just found out via email that I'm IN! YAY! However, the email said they have already extended all of their funded TA offers for the year. It also said that they would be able to tell me more information later on about whether or not I might get funded. But still! IN!


theootto


Mar 10, 2009, 3:53 PM

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Yay! Congrats!
And that's good to know about the funded offers already having been extended--i figured as much.

I just want to put all this PhD stuff behind me at this point! Bring on the rejections! I've been so grouchy today i nearly chewed someone out at work--watch me not get into any phD programs AND get fired!

Someone is coming unglued...


cantonioni


Mar 10, 2009, 4:18 PM

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Congrats, kvandegraaf!
All right, then - I'll probably avoid bugging the department secretary tomorrow about when decisions are going out - I'm assuming they did it snail mail again this year. Good luck to all who are waging an internal battle regarding whether or not it would be bad form to call or email!
Also, for those who wind up with a "yes" but who are told the school already extended their funding offers - I wound up with a multi-year TAhsip maybe a month after I heard the same thing, so it does happen. Hang in there!
-c


kvandegraaf


Mar 10, 2009, 4:37 PM

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Well, now you can bug her to give funding to that nice lady from the PW forums! Ha! Seriously though, I thought everyone would appreciate the information regarding the other funded offers. I don't know how many people the program accepts in total, so it's likely that more than a few of us are in the same situation I am -- accepted, funding TBD. I really hope that I'll be able to get some news in enough time to consider attending. I really, really like the program at UNL as well.


betp


Mar 11, 2009, 10:02 AM

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congrats! that's great news. i've heard good things about UN-L. and hope the milwaukee visit goes well! (i just visited ohio on a similar last minute whim, but thankfully, was able to meet with a few people--hopefully the same will work out for you.)

a friend of mine called FSU, and the grad. secretary said that if you haven't heard either way, you are definitely waitlisted. So that seems to be the story for all the people on here who have heard zilch.


theootto


Mar 11, 2009, 3:11 PM

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my GAMES status says "Recommendation for admission sent to Graduate Studies." I'm assuming that means I'm in. Without secured funding. Interesting...


kvandegraaf


Mar 11, 2009, 3:44 PM

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Mine says the same thing as of this afternoon. YAY! Congrats! Maybe we will be classmates.


theootto


Mar 11, 2009, 3:57 PM

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Oh, I'm glad that's what yours says. All logic pointed to it being an acceptance, but without the letter in hand, I couldn't be sure!

Exciting! There are a lot of neat things about the program there, and I'm in love with Jonis Agee's work...let's see if the funding pans out!


abcd

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Mar 11, 2009, 6:19 PM

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Congratulations to all of the recent acceptances!!!


loaf

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Mar 12, 2009, 12:19 PM

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Yikes, I'm going crazy being away from home right now. I had to have my mail held while I'm visiting my parents and I am pulling my hair out wondering if I got any notifications by snail mail while I'm gone.

Also getting impatient about funding decisions. I don't know how I can possibly go somewhere without funding, and I don't know how they expect us to make a decision w/o knowing funding...

I did have one thought, though, about schools accepting their own MFA students...it's cheaper for the department to admit in-state residents, and I know it's easier for Florida people to get in to FSU, because it's less the department has to pay to waive their tuition. I remember being told that when I first got to FSU.

Okay, fingers crossed. Can I make it until Monday when I can get my mail? Eek.


theootto


Mar 12, 2009, 1:00 PM

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loaf,
I'm sorry you're having to deal with stressful family health issues on top of trying to figure out what your plans will be next year. My thoughts are with you. Do you have access to email? Nebraska sent me an email link today that directed me to my updated GAMES profile.

In terms of folks matriculating without funding, i'm finding that increasingly improbable. If NE accepts 2 funded and 5 (or more?) total in each genre (my assumption based on speakeasy posts), I wonder if those 3 unfunded folks ever end up attending? Or do the funded folks decline, accepting offers elsewhere, such that the funding trickles down? As soon as I get my paper letter I'm going to call the department to ask about the funding situation. Posters from last year claim they aren't very forthcoming about the likelihood of getting funding or the ordering of the funding wait list. If this is the case, I'll promptly defer...and hope for better luck next year.

Oh, I'm still pulling for your acceptance to Utah off the wait list!


Tabby


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Mar 12, 2009, 1:00 PM

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I haven't heard anything from UNL or FSU and I'm at home, if that makes you feel better. I know I'm in UNL from last year, but don't know if funding came through for this year.

I do have definite "no thank yous" from UGA and Tenn.

Funny how much I think I "just want to know" until I get bad news. Then I want to recant. No, I didn't mean that news!


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loaf

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Mar 13, 2009, 11:33 AM

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I've been checking my GAMES status on the UNL site and it said "Recommendation sent" but it didn't say admitted, so I figured I was out.

Well, today I got an email from them saying Congrats on my admission! and I checked GAMES and it said: Admitted!

No word on funding, of course, so I'm guessing I didn't get a funding offer there either. Still, I like having some options...Nebraska or Milwaukee....hmm...


abcd

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Mar 13, 2009, 12:25 PM

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Congratulations, Loaf! You have a few options. I don't remember if you mentioned this in a previous post, but did Milwaukee offer funding?

I was a half-hearted applier this year (only applied to one place, fsu), but reading everyone else's posts and getting excited for y'all on this forum has inspired me to apply again next year, for real! (I'm waitlisted at fsu)

I can't wait to hear about what decision you make, Loaf. And with other notifications still to come, yes?


(This post was edited by abcd on Mar 13, 2009, 12:27 PM)


loaf

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Mar 13, 2009, 12:45 PM

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Thanks! No, no funding at Milwaukee, either, which stinks. But they said they haven't made all their funding decisions, so there's still some time.

Still waiting to hear from 4 schools, but I really wanted to be close to my family in Iowa, so Nebraska and Milwaukee were my top 2 choices.

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