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BLUECHEESE


Nov 1, 2009, 8:12 PM

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It would be nice to have a list of schools that balance the pedagogical side of things (which is important to many of us), but the whole jumping right into the teaching is a bit troublesome, I think. Not because I don't think students can handle it, but because they need time to scope out their writing ability/style first. Teaching takes a lot of time.


HollinsMFAer
Luke Johnson


Nov 1, 2009, 8:38 PM

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Hollins, like UVA, has no teaching the first year, one creative writing class each semester the second year. Though, I think UVA's stipend is higher (Hollins was $12,000 when I was there).


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Zuleika Dobson


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Nov 4, 2009, 1:13 AM

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Agreed, and especially for us 23-24 year olds who have come out of undergrad recently.


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ghola


Nov 5, 2009, 12:05 PM

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     Re: [Zuleika Dobson] Choosing an MFA Program 2010 [In reply to]  

I'm not really sure where to ask this but, when u of arizona asks for a resume, do they want a real resume, or something just pertaining to my writing/publications? I'm confused.


ericweinstein
Eric Weinstein


Nov 5, 2009, 2:39 PM

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A couple of the schools to which I'm applying asked for one, but they all had separate sections on the application for listing prior publications, &c. I included a "regular" resume (work experience, education, and so on) with a publication/award section at the bottom. Does U of AZ also have sections in the main app to list publications, or no?


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Nov 5, 2009, 8:00 PM

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     Re: [Zuleika Dobson] Choosing an MFA Program 2010 [In reply to]  

I can't speak toward other schools, but at OSU at least, the jump into teaching isn't that bad. I came straight out of undergrad and am only turning 22 this month. I've been teaching for two months now and have had no problems balancing my writing with my teaching load. Certainly, some weeks are more grading heavy and some are more writing centric, but overall it has been fine. I should say that I think it's because I am only teaching one class that I feel this way. I know some programs have you teach two which sounds kind of outrageous to me. Anyway, that's my two cents. If you want to know more about what it's like teaching while only being marginally older than the people I am teaching, feel free to PM me. I am the sharing kind :-P


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FreakingOutInBd


Nov 6, 2009, 8:10 AM

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Is it just me or do they have no personal statement? Just an academic and professional goals doc?

Anyone else applying to Virginia Tech? I'm getting confused by their requirements...


BLUECHEESE


Nov 6, 2009, 8:17 AM

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They prolly got sick of hearing creative writers whimpering about how they ploob'd out of the womb and always wanted to write.


HollinsMFAer
Luke Johnson


Nov 6, 2009, 10:48 AM

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ploob'd?


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BLUECHEESE


Nov 6, 2009, 11:12 AM

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FreakingOutInBd


Nov 6, 2009, 6:30 PM

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Well, it wasn't as soon as I ploob'd out of the womb, I took 7 years after that to decide ;)


BLUECHEESE


Nov 6, 2009, 6:38 PM

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It might be true... but what you did to become the writer you are (serious credential-type stuff) and what you plan to do in the future (within reason) are what they want. Not blah blah blah I'm so emo emo emo.


vaquero


Nov 7, 2009, 1:33 AM

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Regarding 'experimental' programs, or those open to genre-bending, I'm an undergrad at Southern Illinois and Pinckney Benedict is definitely into that (and a tremendous teacher to boot). There are other writers here with a more literary bent (i.e. Beth Lordan) but even having one Pinckney is better than most places.


FreakingOutInBd


Nov 7, 2009, 4:31 AM

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Oh man, i was joking. I think that's kind of a given, no?


BLUECHEESE


Nov 7, 2009, 7:54 AM

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yeah, thus the "emo emo emo"

(was trying to also bring the thread back to being useful to people... heh)


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ericweinstein
Eric Weinstein


Nov 7, 2009, 11:42 AM

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JHU asks for a self-critique rather than the usual SoP. Does anyone have any experience with something like this?


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Nov 7, 2009, 1:59 PM

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1.

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"Blood Spatter Analyst, None More Sassy Salon. Paralegal, Frequent & Vigorous, LLC. Two summers at The Limited."
"Hmm..."
"Hmm..."


2.

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Woon


Nov 10, 2009, 5:19 PM

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In Reply To
JHU asks for a self-critique rather than the usual SoP. Does anyone have any experience with something like this?


I have no experience with something like this but I'm treating it like the Contributor's Notes at the end of each Best American Short Stories volume. If you've read any of the volumes in this series, you know what I'm talking about. But don't write it like Arthur Miller in the 2002 volume, as he writes about nothing insightful.


lindsaay
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Nov 10, 2009, 7:52 PM

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Anyone know anything about Northern Michigan University, specifically for Nonfiction? I'm thinking they might be a last minute add to my list -- I'm not sure how I missed them before -- but I'm wondering if it's worth my time. I'm especially wondering about funding -- I'm only going to fully-funded programs.

My list, at the moment:
University of Minnesota
University of North Carolina, Wilmington
Ohio State University
Minnesota State University, Mankato*
Northern Michigan University*
West Virginia University*
University of Alabama*

*Last-minute additions that I'm still not so sure about.


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kbritten

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:37 PM

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I really like the University of Alabama (and they're my alma mater's biggest rival, so that's saying a lot). It is well funded, open to experimental writing, and well-respected. They respond quickly to applications - late January for poetry - and apparently handle the application process cordially and with professionally. Tuscaloosa is a smallish town, and is not as nice as other Alabama college towns like Auburn, but it's a 45 drive into Birmingham, which I personally think is a very nice Southern city. It does have it's issues though, for sure. The weather's great, snow maybe once a year, distinct seasons, hot humid summers that are relatively short. It's a three hour drive to the beach and a four hour drive to the mountains. It's pretty hilly/mountainy too compared to other parts of the state.

One downside to the program is that it is very intensive and difficult to finish in three years. It requires a lot of lit classes, at least from what I've heard, and I think the teaching load is rough. I like taking lit classes though, although the heavy teaching load is not exciting.

Also, if you're not from the South, it might be a challenge, especially at a school like Alabama, which is as Old South as it gets! Them and Ole Miss. Southern Belles and Bama Bangs. The hipocracy and corruption, the good ole' boy crap, the sexism and the racism can be overwhelming at times, so can the obsession with Christianity. My mom lives in Alabama and her boss uses the N word, especially when talking about Obama, and I knew someone in college that was told by their boss not to hire too many black people because "they didn't look like the clientele of the business." I got in an argument with a frat brother about how women should be allowed to divorce an abusive husband, regardless of whether "God didn't intend for women to lead." Apparently, the "sexual revolution is over." Yeah, I couldn't make this stuff up. I don't know what graduate school is like though, that's just my experience at Auburn, a public school in Alabama. *By the way, Auburn is way more progressive than Alabama*

That being said, living in the South has completely changed my writing. I find the place fascinating and disgusting at the same time and I want to write about the people I come across. The South is also developing and progressing, although very slowly, and it's interesting to see the conflict between old and new South. It's like a Flannery O'Connor story! There are also a ton of wonderful people in the South that will welcome you with open arms. And people know how to slow down and live life, which is nice.

Just food for thought!


Pedro Eler


Nov 11, 2009, 12:11 PM

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     Choosing an MFA Program (2009) & (2010) - International Applicants [In reply to]  

Hi, I`m from Brazil and I am strongly considering applying for an MFA program next year. I am working on a list of possibilities but there is still nothing settled. What I wanted to ask is: do you guys know of international applicants being accepted into MFA programs in Creative Writing or is that insanely rare?
And are there some colleges known for being more open to international applicants?

Thank you all for the help!

Pedro


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Nov 11, 2009, 12:35 PM

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     Re: [Pedro Eler] Choosing an MFA Program (2009) & (2010) - International Applicants [In reply to]  

It is rather rare for non-native English speakers to apply to MFA programs, but that is why their acceptances are rare.


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Pedro Eler


Nov 11, 2009, 12:42 PM

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Yeah, that`s what I thought as well. Maybe the fact that so few do is one of the reasons why there is almost no international students in Creative Writing programs. Maybe it will work to my benefit. Who knows! LOL


WanderingTree


Nov 11, 2009, 5:02 PM

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     Re: [Pedro Eler] Choosing an MFA Program (2009) & (2010) - International Applicants [In reply to]  

I'm not sure if anyone has done the #s research on international students but just off the top of my head, I can think of a quite a few international writers that attended American MFA programs, and of course they all became pretty famous haha. Let's face it, editors love foreign exoticism. I don't think it really matters one way or the other in terms of admissions. If you write well, you write well. Although, application fees are sometimes considerably higher for international students which really sucks.

(This post was edited by WanderingTree on Nov 11, 2009, 5:04 PM)


Pedro Eler


Nov 12, 2009, 10:37 AM

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     Re: [WanderingTree] Choosing an MFA Program (2009) & (2010) - International Applicants [In reply to]  

I guess you are right, it all boils down to the quality of the writing. And it does cost quite a bit to apply for MFA`s... so since I am planning to apply to at least fifteen different colleges I`m already saving some money (the total cost will be around two thousand dollars, with all the required translation of documents, and the TOEFL, and the GRE plus sending all those documents abroad... so I started saving already even tough I`m only applying next year).

Are there any other international applicants here in Speakeasy? Show your selves! LOL

Good luck to everyone who is applying this year! As we all know, applying for an MFA in Creative Writing is one of the toughest and most competitive paths one can choose in academia, so good luck to everyone! Next year is my turn and I am already freaked out! Let`s just leave it in the hands of God and hope for the best!

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