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Raysen


Mar 11, 2009, 7:37 PM

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I've never slept in class. Physically and physiologically impossible for me. The closest I came to nodding off was during a Lorrie Moore reading. My god, I love that woman's writings but damn...she needs to work on her public reading skills.


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Mar 11, 2009, 7:39 PM

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The jig is up, Jessica Lynch! No more pretending to be James Franco for you!


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endo


Mar 12, 2009, 4:27 PM

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For those accepted to Columbia, did any any of you receive any funding info yet? I neglected to ask while I on my acceptance call and am wondering if I should call back to inquire or just wait for the packet. I can't help but think that no news is bad news as far as funding goes. Any wisdom would be appreciated. Thanks.


mollygolightly


Mar 19, 2009, 10:57 AM

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Hey there,

Funnily enough, I'm now 90% positive I'm going to Columbia. What about all you other Columbia acceptees? Are you going to the lecture?

Anyhow I thought it might be cool to get the probable Columbia folks together to exchange writing samples. I'm up for it if anyone else is?

Molly


lavventura


Mar 19, 2009, 1:46 PM

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I've given up my spot, Molly. It was hard, but I've got a great deal at the MCW. Good luck in NYC!


sidhefey


Mar 20, 2009, 3:45 PM

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Hi Molly!

Currently, I'm debating between Columbia and NYU, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to choose Columbia. This is terrifying!


krystall


Mar 27, 2009, 8:56 PM

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Hi Molly, i was lurking earlier and saw you were deciding between Brooklyn and Columbia with a leaning towards Brooklyn- what changed your mind?


mollygolightly


Mar 27, 2009, 9:29 PM

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Hey Krystall,

It was a very hard decision but a couple things changed my mind:

1. I got a fellowship from Columbia and I felt like if I let the money dictate my decision, I think I'd regret it forever. Literally the money was the only thing keeping me from Columbia.

2. I read the faculty's work and decided that Brooklyn has terribly amazing people but Columbia's writers are doing work more along the lines of what I aspire to.

3. I'm not an agressive person and since Columbia is bigger (though the workshops are the same size as Brooklyn's) it might be better for me, to actually learn to be more assertive.

4. Also, the prestige did play apart. I talked to an agent who's been really nice to me since she sent me a long thoughtful rejection on my novel and a couple people in academia (English Professors). They said if you can stand the debt, go to Columbia. The agent in particular said she's seen more book deals come out of Columbia. Also, in terms of wanting to teach creative writing, I felt Columbia would look better.

5. I went to a workshop at Brooklyn and it was really very great in a lot of ways. The students knew what they were talking about, as did the instructor but this workshop had 9 students in it (there are only 26 students first and second years) and it wasn't racially diverse (only one person of color) and the ages seemed to stay within the 22-26 range. I'm 31, so I kind of felt a little bit too old for the program almost. Even though I know I'll probably be on the older end of the student body at Columbia (Gary Shteyngart said the median age is 27, they've got some 40s and a couple 60s though).

6. Agents and editors visit Columbia more so than Brooklyn. One student said they have agent parties, which sound like the most schmoozy networking thing in the world but there are just more connections to agents and editors there.

7. Starting last year, Columbia's doing a look-book of students' work to send off to agents.

8. If I was going to quit my recession-proof comfortable job, I felt like going to Columbia would make more sense, just look better on the resume and the program is more hard-core and immersing.

9. Also, At Columbia you can get up to 5 years, most people take the third year and that year is way cheaper than the first two years and what you do is just work on your thesis.

10. I plan on marrying James Franco! (kidding, I just wanted to end the list with 10 reasons)

11. Just thought of another one: Columbia has a lot of teaching opportunities the CA/T program sounds awesome and the internships. I know everyone says they're competitive but with teaching at least, I've heard more than one student say they don't know anyone who hasn't gotten a chance to teach.

12. Also, I think Columbia would be more of a challenge.

I worry about the money but in making the decision, I've conceptualized what that debt would look like, how long it would take to pay off and what it would mean to my quality of life. Once I give Columbia my deposit, I will not be worrying about the money because that would destroy the experience I hope to have. In one way spending that much money on a program is like insurance that you will work your ass off, take advantage of everything that comes up, push through the fear and reservations and just do it.


Molly


krystall


Mar 28, 2009, 1:52 AM

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Good golly, Miss. Molly!
Really helpful. I'm in the middle of a decision myself, between Columbia and another school outside NYC. I had wondered what changed your mind because I thought those factors might influence me. And they did. So thanks. I like a girl who likes a challenge.

The good news is that you will not be the oldest- I'm 32. So we can be little old ladies together. The other good news, I'm married, so you can have Mr. Franco!

There is a facebook group of Columbia admits, i think the link is earlier in the thread. You can get a headstart on getting to know your colleagues.

And maybe I'll see you there...


JarvisHTR


Mar 28, 2009, 5:47 PM

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I'm 29 and my hair is almost totally grey so I look much older! I would imagine most people would be within a couple of years of 27, so being slightly older probably won't be the least be unusual...


ldamski


Mar 29, 2009, 8:32 PM

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Krystall, Mollygolightly, & anyone else involve in this exchange-

I've never posted here (I'm hottentot on the MFA blog). Just wanted you to know I accepted my offer to Columbia for fiction. Oh, and I'm 33 (I win, so far) and Krystall, I'm also married. What genres are you guys? Looking forward to meeting in person!


mollygolightly


Mar 29, 2009, 11:35 PM

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Hey Krystall, Jarvis, and Idamski,


I'll be at Columbia too. I'm Fiction. Glad you two are married, my quest to win the James Franco-marriage competition is just a little easier. I don't know why I'm carrying that joke so far, I'm not a crazy rabid James Franco fan, but I don't hate him either. He's good.

Krystall, glad I was able to help. Writing out that list made me more confident in my own decision too, so it helped me too!

What genre is everyone else? I've been looking for funds like crazy. I think it sucks that we can't access the artists resource center website until we're enrolled. I emailed them explaining that withholding access makes us have no choice in using the student loans in the first semester. They haven't emailed back. I do think there's something wrong when I can get more funding info and leads from Cornell's website, than my own school! Oh well. How is everyone else's funding search going?

By the way, my name's actually Sarah. I don't know why I chose that screenname!

Jarvis, how do you like Columbia? What's your favorite thing about the program so far? Will you be there next year? Any tips for those of us looking for scholarships/grants/fellowships?

Thanks!!!! So excited that others are considering/definitely jumping on the Columbia train. And that we're all around the same age! And Krystall, if Columbia's ends up being your school, I'll look forward to shuffle-board together!!! Heck, all four of us could be a killer shuffle-board team, if shuffle-boarding has teams.

hee-hee,

Sarah


JarvisHTR


Mar 30, 2009, 12:40 AM

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I have access to it, from undergrad, and I don't think there's much out there that you couldn't find elsewhere. Best opportunities require school sponsorship (major fellowships etc). Check with your alumni relations and whomever handles fellowships. Cornell would likely have a dean devoted to it. In truth, it's slim pickings out there and most deadlines have passed. Sigh.


(This post was edited by JarvisHTR on Mar 30, 2009, 12:43 AM)


ldamski


Mar 30, 2009, 9:05 AM

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Sarah- what do you mean you can't access the artists resource guide? I was on it last night- Go to SOA website, click on "current students" on top right. The in the right column will appear "Artists resource guide." I personally only found one relevant to me but I would wait until to the Fall to apply for it.


mollygolightly


Mar 30, 2009, 9:46 AM

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Oh yeah, I just read over the stuff in the admissions packet. Once I put in my deposit they'll give me access to it. I think you need a university id? They told me over the phone, I wouldn't have access until September. I guess it's more incentive to just get the money in and be done with it.

Thanks Jarvis, for the alumni tip!



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Sarah- what do you mean you can't access the artists resource guide? I was on it last night- Go to SOA website, click on "current students" on top right. The in the right column will appear "Artists resource guide." I personally only found one relevant to me but I would wait until to the Fall to apply for it.



krystall


Mar 30, 2009, 11:23 AM

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i live outside north america so haven't seen the admissions packet. ive decided to go with columbia too, but since i haven't seen the packet i feel a bit wierd turning down my other school - its like i need evidence!!

can anyone give me a run down on what was in it- and what was the tuition costs (just dont want any surprises)

im glad to know you'll all be there- its great early sign that this will be a great experience.phew


mollygolightly


Mar 30, 2009, 8:13 PM

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Hey Krystall,
I was actually surprised by the tuition (surprised in a bad way) I had heard 80,000 but it's going to be more like 91,000. So be ready for that. Minus any awards Columbia gave you. Then room and board and some other things totally 67,000 for the first year. This info will be in your financial "packet" which is really just a letter indicating how much federal loans you've received if you filled out the fafsa, suggested lenders and all that.

The admissions packet has another copy of the original acceptance letter, a photocopied interview with the dean of the School, an acceptanc/declination card you're supposed to send back to them with the deposit. A file copy of any fellowship letter they'd sent you previously. A brochure just giving flashpoints for different things: housing, financial aid, international student visa information.

If you haven't received the packet or the financial aid letter then I'd give a call. I'm in New York and I received mine maybe a week ago. Maybe longer ago.













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i live outside north america so haven't seen the admissions packet. ive decided to go with columbia too, but since i haven't seen the packet i feel a bit wierd turning down my other school - its like i need evidence!!

can anyone give me a run down on what was in it- and what was the tuition costs (just dont want any surprises)

im glad to know you'll all be there- its great early sign that this will be a great experience.phew



ldamski


Mar 30, 2009, 9:37 PM

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Here is a link to last years financial/tuition breakdown........and it ain't too pretty

http://wwwapp.cc.columbia.edu/art/app/arts/student_affairs/files/MFA-FullTuition-08-09.pdf


Anurag


Apr 11, 2009, 4:23 PM

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I had visited this thread last year during the summers while I was googling on MFA programs. Amongst all the programs I browsed, I fell in love with the syllabus in Columbia MFA and the highly accomplished writers who teach there. I finish my MA degree this year and sadly, due to the lack of funding, Columbia doesnt figure in my list of univesities where I would apply this year. I wish they had more funding to support students from underdeveloped economies. Its a wonderful program and I know I would always regret this.


Anurag


marriwinkle


May 13, 2009, 7:41 PM

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Any current students at Columbia who would be willing to talk to me about what it's like to go there? I've sent in my deposit for the fall, and want to learn as much about the program as possible before then...

Thanks, guys.


ericweinstein
Eric Weinstein


Oct 25, 2009, 9:26 PM

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Ditto what Anurag said—I'm completing my app now and would really appreciate getting a current MFA student's take on the program. I'm applying for poetry.


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


KrisB


Nov 18, 2009, 11:04 PM

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Hello all,

I was wondering if anyone had any advice for the section of the application where we're to write a response to something we've read lately. What kind of response?????
It's just frighteningly general!


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Nov 18, 2009, 11:12 PM

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Single out specific techniques, pick them apart, explain them with your own personal slant, show how you've modified them to fit your needs and adopted them into your own writing. Then identify a minor issue where you feel the writer's dropped the ball. Be positive, uplifting, but not too fanboy-ish. Touch on themes, but not too much -- this isn't an MA application. Get to the point. Don't try to dazzle them with your own personal style. Let them know you're a close reader, but not obsessive or annoying.

^^ Field-tested.


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KrisB


Nov 19, 2009, 12:08 AM

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Thank you so much for that quick response! Really great advice!


Zuleika Dobson


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Nov 21, 2009, 5:11 PM

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So it sounds like a slightly more personal rendition of a reader's report will do--minus the recommendation on publication?


"Every spectator is a coward or a traitor."

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