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Mae Fields



May 7, 2009, 1:06 AM

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For Posterity:

U Oregon - accepted off the waitlist and happily headed there fully funded!
U Montana - accepted

UNCG - short list but ultimately rejected in late April
WashU St. Louis - rejected
Iowa - rejected
Cornell - rejected
Ohio State - rejected (Didn't get my letter until April 30th!)
Michigan- rejected

I applied in poetry. Future applicants perusing the boards - seriously, do not give up until you have all rejections in hand, and even then keep writing. I didn't know where I was headed until a couple weeks after the April 15th deadline.


NickMcRae
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Mar 7, 2010, 6:01 PM

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Hello all,

Just letting everyone know I've accepted a position in poetry at Ohio State's MFA program.

I just let go of spots at Ole Miss and North Texas. Waitlisters at those programs be on the lookout.

Thank so much to everyone for encouraging me through all this. Much love for you here.

All best,
NM


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abcd

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Mar 7, 2010, 6:28 PM

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Congratulations, Nick! I went to OSU for undergrad and absolutely LOVED the creative writing profs. Several of the MFA students I knew went on to PhD programs and tenure-track jobs. Plus, Columbus is a very affordable town that surprising has a lot going on. Go to the Wexner Center soon after you arrive. It is not to be missed!


unsaid78


Mar 7, 2010, 8:40 PM

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Woohoo! Congrats on making the big decision, Nick!


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bergdalea
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Mar 7, 2010, 10:24 PM

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Horray Nick McRae! :o) Ohio State is lucky to have you.


NickMcRae
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Mar 9, 2010, 12:25 AM

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Thanks folks!

:)

NM


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InkblotJo


Mar 26, 2010, 9:29 AM

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I've never posted on these boards before, so I'm hoping that this is the right place for this. I'm having a really hard time making my final decision, and I'd like any input people can offer. Does anyone have an opinion on the creative writing PhD vs the MFA? I'm currently torn between the UIC PhD program and an MFA from Penn State. By a very lucky miracle, I'm fortunate enough to be funded by the Javits fellowship, so money's not as big an issue (though I do still have to negotiate with the financial aid offices of both schools). I still have yet to hear from a few schools, but because the Javits deadline is fast-approaching (April 5) I need to make up my mind soon. I feel like Penn State might have better/bigger reputation, but is there any advantage to having a PhD instead of an MFA? I'm about to visit Penn State this coming week, but I won't have time to see Chicago before I have to make the final call. Really, any input would be so absolutely welcome. Thanks.

- Jo


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Mar 26, 2010, 11:11 AM

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If you're planning to teach (as I assume; why else would you get a PhD?), some schools will be more likely to hire a PhD than an MFA because of pressure from the accrediting agency. I know I was cut from one shortlist for precisely that reason.


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InkblotJo


Mar 26, 2010, 11:13 AM

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Pongo,
Thanks for the reply! I suspected as much. Does anyone know anything about the reputation of UIC's PhD program as a whole? I chose to apply because I admire Cris Mazza's work, but I don't know that much about the department in its entirety.


spamela


Mar 26, 2010, 4:05 PM

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You could always get the MFA then reapply for PhDs after. I don't know your work/life situation, but I usually come down on the side of taking as many funded writing years as possible, if that jives with your overall life plan.


bighark


Mar 26, 2010, 4:32 PM

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UIC's PhD is highly regarded among the writers I know.

I wouldn't waste too much time debating the reputations of two entirely different degrees, though. If the critical component of a PhD is appealing to you, I'd go for the PhD.

J


Coconut Joe



Mar 27, 2010, 1:42 AM

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I've never posted on these boards before, so I'm hoping that this is the right place for this. I'm having a really hard time making my final decision, and I'd like any input people can offer. Does anyone have an opinion on the creative writing PhD vs the MFA? I'm currently torn between the UIC PhD program and an MFA from Penn State. By a very lucky miracle, I'm fortunate enough to be funded by the Javits fellowship, so money's not as big an issue (though I do still have to negotiate with the financial aid offices of both schools). I still have yet to hear from a few schools, but because the Javits deadline is fast-approaching (April 5) I need to make up my mind soon. I feel like Penn State might have better/bigger reputation, but is there any advantage to having a PhD instead of an MFA? I'm about to visit Penn State this coming week, but I won't have time to see Chicago before I have to make the final call. Really, any input would be so absolutely welcome. Thanks.

- Jo


I guess you're pretty young. I saw UIC admit young BAs directly into their PhD program. It all depends on what you want to do with your life. If you look deep inside you, you already have the answer. For example, if you plan to go to law school or get an MBA later, getting an MFA makes sense, but if you're really serious about getting a teaching job, you should go the PhD route. If you are not sure about either of these, your safe bet is to get into an MFA program, which might give you more free time to think about your future and prepare for standardized tests like the LSAT or the GRE Subject--if you want to go to law school or apply to top lit programs later, because PhD work is more demanding and rigorous and generally demands a lot more commitment. If you're young and just want to have a good time for a few years, go the MFA route. Regarding reputation, neither program is better than the other, or considered as a top program, both probably in the mid-tier.


(This post was edited by Coconut Joe on Mar 27, 2010, 1:45 AM)


InkblotJo


Mar 27, 2010, 10:36 AM

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Coconut Joe,
Thanks for your honesty! You're right-- I am pretty young, still 21. But I'm pretty certain that I want to teach creative writing in the university setting. My question now is... since both schools are just "mid-tier," should I go ahead for the PhD at Chicago, or should I go to Penn State for the MFA and hope I get into a better program for a PhD later?


Tabby


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Mar 27, 2010, 11:07 AM

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I have an MFA and now I'm in my PhD. I would not trade my MFA experience for anything. As a studio degree, the MFA emphasis is on writing, and less on courses like "bibliography and methods." I would not want to be in a PhD prog before I had a sure sense of my own writing direction, because academia has this way of sucking you in to all these tasks, and colloquiums, and Friday morning meetings about the meetings, etc. etc.

The MFA is much more social and collaborative. And well, fun. I felt freer to abandon old ways of writing to try completely new ones. In the PhD I feel more pressure to be locked in and working towards a book and amping up those publications and working up the teaching experience.

Once you have a PhD, you can't "go back." I vote MFA. Give yourself time to dig around and play and explore.


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Coconut Joe



Mar 27, 2010, 12:56 PM

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Coconut Joe,
Thanks for your honesty! You're right-- I am pretty young, still 21. But I'm pretty certain that I want to teach creative writing in the university setting. My question now is... since both schools are just "mid-tier," should I go ahead for the PhD at Chicago, or should I go to Penn State for the MFA and hope I get into a better program for a PhD later?


It's not like you can teach CW because you have a CW PhD or an MFA. Time and again it's been said it's more about publications. I suggest you do your homework: log on to UMI ProQuest and get the names of all the UIC CW PhD program graduates for the last ten years and try to google their names to find out where they ended up. I guess it won't be a pretty picture-- although it may look much better than a MFA picture. Why do this? Because you invest several years of your life for a PhD--there should be some reward at the end. Again don't get hung up on the reputation of CW programs; once you get past a certain phase, it won't matter much. So, what I am saying is, make the right decision for the long run.


hamlet3145


Mar 27, 2010, 1:17 PM

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I have to vote MFA as well for no other reason than that I think it would be way more fun of an experience. This, obviously, is not advice grounded in practicality. But, since we are discussing graduate degrees in creative writing I think practicality may have gone out the window a few miles back anyhow. =)
Even by the time you graduated (at 23? 24?) youíd still have a couple of viable decades to do a Ph.D. Most people I know who went/go to a creative writing Ph.D. program didnít even apply until their 30ís.


jthummel


Mar 29, 2010, 4:25 PM

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What genre did you apply to? I vote PhD regardless, only because the MFA isn't really a terminal degree any longer, and if you've been awarded the Javits Fellowship, which seems like a pretty sweet deal, I would stretch it as long as possible, because if you apply to a PhD later, there is no guarantee for funding. Besides, if you truly admire Cris Mazza, you should go where she is. :)


orthetiger


Apr 1, 2010, 4:21 PM

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I made my decision yesterday and accepted a funded offer at Florida Atlantic University.
Good luck to everybody else in making final decisions.

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