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germericanqt


Mar 23, 2008, 2:16 AM

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Re: [Stewbags] Michigan, USC, or Utah [In reply to] Can't Post

Salt Lake City is actually a great place to live, and we have some pretty impressive faculty here. Lots of natural beauty, plenty of culture. You wouldn't think so, but it's pretty liberal. The liberal oasis of Utah. Lol.

I also wanted to ask--is anyone turning down Johns Hopkins fiction? I don't know why you would, but I'm wait-listed, so I'm trying to stay optimistic. :)


lionsden


Mar 23, 2008, 3:05 AM

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nyu, rutgers [In reply to] Can't Post

hi everyone,

thanks for sharing your anxiety. I relate. these are the responses I've received so far:

Rutgers: In, no funding
NYU: In, partial funding
UMass: out
Brown: out
Irvine, Virginia, Brooklyn: assumed out

because nyu is offering funding, it would actually be less expensive to go there than to Rutgers, but I'm intrigued by the Rutgers program and by its faculty, and have heard mixed reviews of NYU's program. I'm also considering re-applying for next fall. any ideas?


motet
Dana Davis / Moderator
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Mar 23, 2008, 10:51 AM

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Re: [Stewbags] Michigan, USC, or Utah [In reply to] Can't Post


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I'm heading to Ann Arbor, LA, and Salt Lake over the next two weeks to poke around and see what fits best. Any insight would be most appreciated -



Stewbags, have you asked about that here in The Local Life?


blarring


Mar 23, 2008, 2:50 PM

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New School, Emerson, & George Mason [In reply to] Can't Post

After careful, stressful deliberation, I thought I knew where I was going: The New School, mainly because it was the only program to offer some funding (a scholarship). However, I received an email Saturday from Emerson and I've been awarded a graduate assistantship that's over twice as much as the TNS scholarship. Now, Emerson is my top choice. I'm still waiting to hear something from Ole Miss but as of right now, I'm shipping off to Boston.
One day I'm going to this school, next day it's that school . . . God, I'm drained. I know I should be thankful just to be going somewhere but damn, this process takes the cheese outta ya.
I don't know what that means.



B. Lynn Arrington
"A Southerner talks music." --Mark Twain



jaques19


Mar 23, 2008, 3:52 PM

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Re: [ali888] Wait, yes I am going crazy [In reply to] Can't Post

Hey ali--I got into Montana fiction with a TAship, but I'm accepting elsewhere. I called and told them at the end of last week. I hope that means someone else will be notified of funding soon.

Good luck!


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Charles

Mar 23, 2008, 6:34 PM

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Okay. I'm in for fiction at Sarah Lawrence and Columbia.

What are some pluses and minuses here? Programs, location, anything?


Congrats, both are very good programs.

I can't speak to Sarah Lawrence, but I know some people who go there and they like it.

As for Columbia, the big downside is money (unless you were offered a good amount) and the big plus side is everything else.

The faculty is simply fantastic. The student body is one of the strongest. Internship opportunities are all over the place. The program is a large one, but that is a plus in my book. It means more options for classes, teachers and peers. The location obviously can't be beat (for my tastes, some people will hate NYC).

PM me if you have any specific questions and congrats again.


lovesapricots


Mar 24, 2008, 12:21 PM

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Re: [lovesapricots] Wait, yes I am going crazy [In reply to] Can't Post

Decided on Ohio State. Not only is it the best funding, it's also a friendly, supportive atmosphere. More importantly, the students there all seem...happy! Who knew?

Good luck w/ decisions, everyone! Hope this opens up spots for nonfiction waitlisters (U of Arizona, Wyoming, Montana and Columbia.)


de_ja


Mar 24, 2008, 1:03 PM

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Re: [franz] Has Anybody Made a Final Decision? [In reply to] Can't Post

I've been reading this forum for a while but haven't made any comments. But I'm sure people would like to know about the spots I'll be freeing up for poetry.

Final decision: BU

Offers I'll be declining:
FSU
UNCG
NYU
University of Mississippi

Taking my name off the wait list of: UVA

Other schools I'm waiting on (and haven't yet read of any acceptances):
FIU
LSU

So there you go. Good luck to everyone waiting to hear from those schools.


jayg


Mar 24, 2008, 1:09 PM

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Re: Officially Accepted Oregon! [In reply to] Can't Post

I just officially accepted my spot at the University of Oregon for fiction. If anyone else in the forum is on their way to Oregon, PM me!

I have emailed Colorado State and Texas State to open up spots there.

Good luck to all!


LauraJean1


Mar 24, 2008, 1:14 PM

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Decision [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm in for fiction at SLC and Columbia.

I'm going to Columbia! Fall 2008.


rpc
ryan call

Mar 24, 2008, 1:45 PM

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Re: [aiyamei] Help! Pick one! [In reply to] Can't Post

to offer a respectful counterpoint:

id say theres still good argument for mason and emerson

(im biased, obviously)

if its contacts youre concerned about, mason's faculty can just as easily offer you a similar connection (as im sure most any faculty in the country can). sure, its a far cry from the nyc scene, where agents and editors apparently mill about in droves, but there is a decent lit world here: many of our faculty serve on the board at PEN/Faulkner and bring us to events, they often have parties at their house to which their fellow authors are invited, they have hosted agents in our classes, etc. we also have a decent lit festival at mason every fall - 10k people attend it to hear authors and editors speak. this is nice for us mason students, i think, because we can often volunteer to help out, etc.

AWP is also based here.

anyhow, the point is, theres some of that here too. not a lot, but some.

and all you need is some.


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aiyamei

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Mar 24, 2008, 3:09 PM

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Re: [rpc] Help! Pick one! [In reply to] Can't Post

Hi RPC, I completely agree with you, and I see where you're coming from.

My basic argument is just that the community an MFA provides (faculty, fellow students, and other literary types who flock to places where writers congregate) is the single greatest reason to go after an MFA, and clearly Mason (and many other schools as well) can offer a community that will put you head and shoulders over those who don't have the MFA experience at all, and is therefore nothing to sneeze at.

But it's precisely because I am convinced that the community is the single strongest reason to get an MFA that I would urge someone to make the strength of the community their primary criterion in choosing where to go. The way I see it, the community is simply that much more manifold in NY, where there are four MFA programs more or less on top of one another (Columbia, New School, Brooklyn, Hunter), and publishers/magazines/agencies galore.

But let me just be completely honest and expose where I'm coming from, although I know it will in some ways discredit my opinion (and if so, then so be it!):

First, I wrote what some would call an ambitious and experimental novel, and then with this novel I managed to get quite a good agent, and I'm working on revisions with him right now and I feel like I'm growing all the time, improving but then also not improving, struggling two steps forward and one step back, wrestling with the thing over and over, but in any case, I'm going through what I'm convinced could not be more hellish or intense, but also with no steeper learning curve, than if I were in an MFA program. So I'm simply not convinced that an MFA is something a person has to necessarily do for the sake of "craft" or more simply put: for the sake of learning how to write. However, since I didn't go to an MFA program, I've done this alone, and that's something I do not feel good about -- it could definitely have been improved by being in an MFA program. The loneliness has only gotten worse with time. I've hated it. It's been very hard. Finding good readers, before I got my agent, was incredibly difficult. And I've been very lonely in terms of trying not to feel crazy for putting everything on the line for a novel, in terms of feeling like I had any sort of mandate. Then later, the process of figuring out how to pursue publication was also very hard to navigate, and ultimately I feel like I only had some measure of success because of advice I got from friends in New York who were clued in. While they didn't do me any explicit favors, they knew through friendships and acquaintances who was rumored to be interested in picking up experimental literary fiction at that time. I mean, if my book had been terrible, this advice wouldn't have helped, the agents I cold-queried would have just turned me down (as many did) -- it's not that I think you can be an insider and thusly crowned king of the hill forever and basta, your work is done. No, first you have to write the best book you can, but then if you also are ensconced in this nation's largest literary community, you might well have an easier time of it.

So that's where I'm coming from when I run around giving advice to people on an MFA board without even having an MFA!

And please, I hope no one will think that I'm trying to disparage non-NY programs -- I'm just trying to pass on what I feel like I've learned through this process the hard way -- about the insideryness of NY our nation's publishing capital, about the advantages of being in a good position with that publishing world, etc. NONE OF WHICH is to say that you can't go about cultivating these advantages through other means, and I'm living proof of that myself (I live in Germany for god's sake, and sure, I could have moved to NY if I had really been so convinced it was the only way to go.) But absolutely feel free to reject this very, very un-expert advice.


rpc
ryan call

Mar 24, 2008, 3:48 PM

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Re: [aiyamei] Help! Pick one! [In reply to] Can't Post

no worries at all - its fascinating to hear your side. youre certainly not disparaging nonNYC progams and i understand what you saying.

good luck with the book, etc.


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Mar 24, 2008, 4:03 PM

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I have no idea how much emphasis should be placed on connections, but aiyamei's remarks remind me of something a professor told me: make sure you have something to work on before you go through the MFA mill. Are we in agreement that connections don't matter without something near-complete in your hand? Or will these connections still be good after a few years?


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readytorun


Mar 24, 2008, 4:49 PM

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Re: [de_ja] Has Anybody Made a Final Decision? [In reply to] Can't Post

de_ja, when did you hear from Mississippi and how did you hear? I'm waiting on them, and you're the first person I've seen who's heard some news. Congrats, too!


chitown


Mar 24, 2008, 6:26 PM

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McNeese State [In reply to] Can't Post

I was wondering if any current or former students (or anyone) can give some info about McNeese State's MFA program. My correspondence with the director has been very positive and I'm impressed so far. However, I'm wondering if the funding is enough (I believe it's 9K/year for two classes/sem) and how much of a writing community is there.


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Charles

Mar 24, 2008, 6:29 PM

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I have no idea how much emphasis should be placed on connections, but aiyamei's remarks remind me of something a professor told me: make sure you have something to work on before you go through the MFA mill. Are we in agreement that connections don't matter without something near-complete in your hand? Or will these connections still be good after a few years?



It depends on the type of connection I think. A professor/mentor could last for life. Or an magazine editor or enthusiastic teacher could help you get a story published somewhere great, even if you dont' have a book completed. Trying to contact agents before having a near-compete manuscript seems maybe like a waste of time, but hopefully after 2 years of an MFA you will have something close to at least a first draft.


cellularsoup


Mar 25, 2008, 1:11 PM

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umass-amherst! [In reply to] Can't Post

just got a call from umass-amherst, offering me that much-wanted/needed TA position for next year! this means i'll definitely be attending for poetry in the fall. yessss.


Raignn



Mar 25, 2008, 1:21 PM

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Re: [cellularsoup] umass-amherst! [In reply to] Can't Post

Congratulations! Are there any other offers or waitlists you're turning down?


whataneatgirl


Mar 25, 2008, 1:21 PM

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It's. Finally. Over. [In reply to] Can't Post

Just officially accepted at Cornell for poetry, & now it's finally hitting me, & I am euphoric.

Will be declining UMass Amherst, University of Michigan, & University of New Hampshire.
Took my name off the waitlists at University of Virginia & University of Minnesota.

This godforsaken process is finally over! I am so happy! Thank you, all, for this space, which helped me channel my manic anxiety. And good luck to everyone in making their own final choices!


cellularsoup


Mar 25, 2008, 1:31 PM

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Re: [Raignn] umass-amherst! [In reply to] Can't Post

thanks! i'm turning down brooklyn college and UNH.


cellularsoup


Mar 25, 2008, 1:40 PM

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Re: [whataneatgirl] It's. Finally. Over. [In reply to] Can't Post

congrats!


beefilet


Mar 25, 2008, 2:21 PM

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Re: [whataneatgirl] Acceptance etiquette? [In reply to] Can't Post

Congratulations!
I've been quietly following this site and everyone's advice has been really helpful and encouraging.

I have a general question related to accepting etiquette. What is the best way to accept an offer, other than simply sending in the enrollment form and deposit? I was accepted to VC and will probably go there, although I'm still holding out for word from Bennington and WW. Is it best to also send an email to the director telling them you're decision, or is that too much? How have others handled this? I know this seems like kind of a silly thing to worry about, but alas, I worry.

Also, has anyone gotten a phone call from Bennington today? just curious...


jlgwriter
Jeanne Lyet Gassman
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Mar 25, 2008, 4:53 PM

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Re: [beefilet] Acceptance etiquette? [In reply to] Can't Post

Congrats on your acceptance to VC. It's a great program. I'm in my first semester there in fiction. I sent an email (I think to Louise) saying that I was accepting their offer and that my deposit check and enrollment form were in the mail.

Hope that helps.

Jeanne


http://www.jeannelyetgassman.com
http://jeannelyetgassman.blogspot.com


hmm...


Mar 25, 2008, 4:54 PM

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Re: [whataneatgirl] It's. Finally. Over. [In reply to] Can't Post

Wow. You decided. Congrats! I'm leaning towards Cornell as well- in fact, it's Cornell or Iowa. I just turned down Michigan today, and UVA last week, and U of Arizona before that. I hope to decide by the weekend.... but maybe I'll be seeing you in the fall.

Congrats again.

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