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v1ctorya


Mar 5, 2009, 5:06 AM

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Re: [Raysen] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post

Raysen,

I'm quite superstitious too. I've tracked all my schools with a magic eight ball, as mentioned. It listed Michigan as #1, so I have now scientifically proven that the magic eight ball is indeed incorrect. I used two for control, one at home and one at work. While the preliminary findings are that the 8 ball is a sham, I will have to wait until I receive notice from my other 10 schools (I've only heard from 3!) to write up the paper and abstract regarding my findings.

Still waiting on rejections, would just love to have this all over and know what the final verdict is.


reality writes


Mar 5, 2009, 9:53 AM

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Re: [Raysen] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post

hey Raysen - I just wanted to say hey, I'm not mad at you. I doubt that most of the people who read this forum are mad at you. You're probably a straight up human being. It's just that everyone does things differently, and the Internet exacerbates different behavior, for better or worse.

However, there's an easier way to do this (i say this for anyone else in your same boat): you could easily send an anonymous email to the TSE (Seth Abramson, umass on here) and tell him of your acceptance and no harm would be done. He wouldn't out you, but everyone would know school X had sent out an acceptance, and no one would have scapegoated you for keeping it a secret. We wouldn't have even known it was a secret if you hadn't declared you were keeping a secret.

But, to each, his/her own. whatevs. we're all going to find out one way or the other in the next 3 weeks.


fixittuesday



Mar 5, 2009, 11:10 AM

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Re: [reality writes] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post

Even though I absolutely knew it was coming, I was so SAD reading my Iowa rejection. It really depressed me--such a big dream dashed! Being a writer is terrible. Seriously just terrible.


nillywilly


Mar 5, 2009, 11:31 AM

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Re: [fixittuesday] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post

As for UC Irvine, Seth posted a fiction acceptance by phone yesterday from a "Doug" who also got accepted at IWW - since there are only 6 slots open, methinks Ron Carlson (or whoever's giving out the good news there) made all his calls in one day. There may be waitlist slots, but can't imagine many. I got my Iowa rejection by mail yesterday (nicely worded, very classy, and with a real live signature from Sam Chang), so expecting Irvine any day now. Still holding out for good news out of UC Riverside, but that's kind of a long shot (they accept 10 fiction a year) as well.


Kurt


Mar 5, 2009, 11:38 AM

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Re: [nillywilly] Irvine [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't know, Nilly. Seems in years past, Irvine has spaced out its acceptances over the course of a few weeks. In fact, I've heard anecdotaly that one applicant didn't receive notice until around April 15 last year (a poet, granted). So while it's possible that the program has filled its spots, I don't think we should assume as much because one (confirmed) applicant has been notified.

That said, I ain't gettin in so it's neither here nor there, for me : )


unsaid78


Mar 5, 2009, 11:41 AM

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Re: [fixittuesday] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm sorry, fixit. I can definitely relate. All things for a reason and all that jazz :) Not that it's any consolation, but I yell "FIX IT!" every time I see your screen name. Brightens my day, at least.

So I found out I didn't get the grad scholars fellowship at Indiana. I'm sharing since I mentioned I was waiting to hear back about it. I know there are worse things but it feels better to say out loud...I'm disappointed...but certainly not ungrateful. I'm feeling like my average GRE (540v) might have killed me on this, because my GPA (3.7) was great.

Shaking it off. Carrying on.

I hope there's great news on the board today!!! Good luck everyone!


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sara e.g.


Mar 5, 2009, 11:44 AM

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Re: [unsaid78] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post

Unsaid--

Will Indiana still be a strong contender for you without the fellowship?


unsaid78


Mar 5, 2009, 11:53 AM

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Re: [sara e.g.] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post

Yeah, sara, still the top of what I've heard so far. They fully fund everyone and it was the grad school that denied the fellowship so I don't feel slighted by the department. That extra money would have sealed the deal for me though. At least now I can schedule my own visit (fellowship would have paid for it). If VT turns into an acceptance then I'd visit both schools before making a decision. I say all of this as if I have money to be flying all over the place lol.


www.mfachronicles.blogspot.com - Follow us as we begin our 1st years in MFA programs!


sara e.g.


Mar 5, 2009, 12:02 PM

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Re: [unsaid78] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post

Haha, I know. Short visits to schools certainly add up (just planned my trips to Illinois and VCU and don't want to see my bank account any time soon.)

If I remember correctly, don't Indiana and VT offer similar stipends? Sounds like you'll have some tough decisions to make!


fixittuesday



Mar 5, 2009, 12:26 PM

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Re: [sara e.g.] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for the consolation, unsaid! And condolences to you for the fellowship.
I'm so thankful for this community--'civilians' don't quite grasp the devastation/elation/anxiety/neurosis. Thank you to everyone--this is more like a 12 step support group than a message board.

With love,


Tabby


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Mar 5, 2009, 12:50 PM

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Re: [fixittuesday] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post

Dealing with "non-acceptance" is one the best writing skills one can develop. Because for all the people who love your writing, there will always be people who don't. Or maybe they love your writing, but their dog choked on peanut butter that day or....?

But the good news is, your cv only lists accomplishments!

And you get tougher. You really do. As someone who used to go fetal, I have advanced to a pang of grief before I move on. The best remedy is always getting back to work. Best writing advice ever from Aryn Kyle: "Um, hang in there?"


http://www.kellykathleenferguson.com


Khalilah


Mar 5, 2009, 12:57 PM

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Re: [Tabby] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks Tabby.

Sorry about that Fixit and Unsaid.

Now that it seems all the Iowas arriving are non-acceptances and even with their stipends, if UCIrvine accepts it'll still be too expensive to live there, I guess Unsaid and I will be deciding between the same two schools, Indiana and Vtech.

Have fun with your campus visits.


flergenderg


Mar 5, 2009, 1:02 PM

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Re: [Khalilah] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post

Rejected by Johns Hopkins for fiction via snail mail sent out Feb. 27. 0 for 6 so far.


Raysen


Mar 5, 2009, 1:04 PM

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Re: [reality writes] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
hey Raysen - ...

However, there's an easier way to do this (i say this for anyone else in your same boat): you could easily send an anonymous email to the TSE (Seth Abramson, umass on here) and tell him of your acceptance and no harm would be done. He wouldn't out you, but everyone would know school X had sent out an acceptance, and no one would have scapegoated you for keeping it a secret. We wouldn't have even known it was a secret if you hadn't declared you were keeping a secret.

....


I would if I were the first to get accepted at the listed schools. But, in one case, I wasn't the first to be accepted and in the other case, someone already reported it. There's no need to email Seth with mere acceptances. He only wants the earliest (first) acceptances.


reality writes


Mar 5, 2009, 1:07 PM

Post #1365 of 1632 (9350 views)
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Re: [Raysen] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post

oh, ok.


00emily


Mar 5, 2009, 1:29 PM

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Re: [flergenderg] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post

I know the "chin up" advice doesn't do much to soften the blow of several rejections. Last year I was rejected across the board (only applied to top-tier/well-funded schools, because I decided nothing else would be worth leaving a job I liked for). One April rejection told me I was "in the finalist group" and that was enough of a confidence boost to carry me through to the next season.

Right now I'm waitlisted for my top program and have yet to hear from the rest. I feel I am on the right trail. This is what I am supposed to do, this is how it goes. My work has progressed immensely in the last year, and the blow of rejection has alerted me to some blind spots as a writer. It's worth keeping in mind that many of us are on our second or third year of applications, and that many apply to IWW after receiving MFAs elsewhere. The gruesome acceptance stats at these schools are always going to break a lot of hearts. We knew that going in.

We're in an excruciatingly competitive field - EVERYONE thinks writing well is simpler than it is, including writers - and we knew it would never come easy. The fight to get in might take a couple years, and that's only the beginning. If you can't take rejection, you're in the wrong line of work. Good luck everyone - maybe I'll be right back with you on the boards next year.


Khalilah


Mar 5, 2009, 2:33 PM

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Re: [00emily] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post

Hi Emily,

Can you speak a little more about people going to Iowa for their 2nd MFA -- this is the first I've ever heard of this.


00emily


Mar 5, 2009, 2:46 PM

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Re: [Khalilah] Michener [In reply to] Can't Post

K -

I know of a person who was accepted early who has one MFA under the belt, and friends who have completed theirs told me the same, that classmates went out for Iowa when they finished their degrees. I don't know that it's "the norm" or a big percentage of applicants, but there's a lot of chatter about it. I think that has to be a factor in the overwhelming number of applicants, too.

That said, all I've heard indicates that Iowa does not go for pure "polish," rather, a hearty mix of polish and promise.

THAT said, none of us really know what it is they want, hence the stewing.

-E


Khalilah


Mar 5, 2009, 4:07 PM

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Iowa and second MFAs [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for the insight Emily. That's a lot to chew on and gives me a better understanding of how developed the writing is of those with whom I'm competing.


00emily


Mar 5, 2009, 4:16 PM

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Re: [Khalilah] Iowa and second MFAs [In reply to] Can't Post

No prob. Easier to take a "no" in stride knowing that there are folks who've been hitting from the fences for awhile competing for the same few slots... Good luck to you.


swiviol


Mar 5, 2009, 5:28 PM

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Iowa [In reply to] Can't Post

Rejected today by mail, for fiction. Knew it was coming ... oh well.


IrisAnn

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Mar 5, 2009, 6:08 PM

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Re: [swiviol] Iowa [In reply to] Can't Post

I posted in waiting game (these threads are tangled! and i'm contributing...) but I am a poet, rejected from Syracuse by snail mail as of today.


SevenFreckles


Mar 5, 2009, 6:31 PM

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Re: [IrisAnn] Iowa [In reply to] Can't Post

Today was not fun. Rejected by Iowa... which caused me to almost cry at work twice today. I always knew it was a long shot, but I would have been so happy to get accepted. Then a little later I got a phone call from my dad. For some reason Syracuse sent my rejection to my parents house. The funny part was my poor dad didn't want to tell me it was a rejection. He called it "a no" as if "rejection" were some kind of curse word and I was little kid.

I also got a second invoice from the University of Maryland for my application fee. After I got the first invoice I called them, forwarded them the confirmation from my original payment, called them again and then was told it was fine. Hmm. I don't understand what it going on with them... but I do hope that my application isn't being held up because they think I didn't pay my application fee.

So anyway, I've got five rejections and no good news. Some days are easier to deal with... and some days are like today. :(

Hoping for better news tomorrow...


theootto


Mar 5, 2009, 6:54 PM

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Re: [SevenFreckles] Iowa [In reply to] Can't Post

Oh, SevenFreckles, I'm so sorry. That sounds like a crappy day, indeed.
Your dad's treatment of the "no" seems pretty endearing, though. I haven't heard from any programs yet, but I know my poor grandma is praying every night that I get in. I almost feel worse for her than I do for me! ;) THere's something extra sad when we know our family is pulling for us--they thought we'd be in like Flynn (i don't think i've ever used that saying before--who is this Flynn, and why was it so easy for him?!?)

Take care!


flergenderg


Mar 5, 2009, 7:06 PM

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Re: [theootto] Iowa [In reply to] Can't Post

I bought you a beer, seven freckles


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