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reality writes


Mar 15, 2008, 11:29 AM

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congrats, meadowlands! what genre are you?


hamlet3145


Mar 15, 2008, 11:29 AM

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What field would your spouse be looking to work in? There are the usual college town opportunities: retail, waiting tables, etc. There is a Direct TV call center that a lot of people work at. The university also does have some interesting positions open up form time to time ranging from academic advisor to library work to night dispatcher at public safety.

P.S. Congratulations!


meadowlands1


Mar 15, 2008, 11:51 AM

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Thanks! I'm poetry. (Jason, sent pm)


reality writes


Mar 15, 2008, 3:57 PM

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Montana rejection [In reply to] Can't Post

well, I'm out of this race as of today. Just got my rejection letter in the mail. Good luck to everyone else who's waiting!


aathema


Mar 16, 2008, 11:36 PM

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It really depends on what kinds of jobs your spouse is looking for. It took my partner a couple of months to find a woodworking job (though I suspect he was a little lax in his search in order to enjoy a much-needed vacation). The pay isn't great, but it's enough to get by.

Other partners seem to have found jobs quickly enough, but the search requires some amount of flexibility and openness to working outside of one's field.

I'd suggest contacting Workforce, Inc. ( http://www.workforce-inc.com/ ) and talking to Sasha.

Feel free to PM me if you have other questions--my partner is happy to talk to concerned S.O.s about the job market.




http://www.postmfa08.blogspot.com


amandadeleted


Mar 17, 2008, 3:39 PM

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Montana Fiction Update [In reply to] Can't Post

I called Montana today on a whim and found out that I was accepted for fiction. It seems like they're a little behind with the fiction notifications. The first guy I spoke with told me that calls would go out on the 19th to applicants receiving TAships, and emails would be sent to everyone else who is accepted. Judging from the posts here, I guess rejection letters have already been mailed. Anyway, he transferred me to the woman who told me about my acceptance, but she implied that formal acceptances would be sent by mail closer to the end of the month. So I didn't get a clear sense of what's going on, but I'd say no news is definitely good news from Montana at this point.


kate88


Mar 17, 2008, 3:55 PM

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I called on Friday, not specifying genre, and was told the "top" candidates had been notified by telephone and that all other letters had been sent and she imagined all would be known by the 19th. I guess I won't know for sure until there's an envelope in my mailbox, so confusing ...

But congratulations! Montana seems like such an awesome program.


dickenscratch



Mar 19, 2008, 11:18 AM

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I'm in at Montana, but wasn't notified by phone with the top choices (I called them, however, and learned this). They told me that I'm not in the top five positions for getting a TA, so I probably won't get one. My question is: does anyone know what other funding options are available? I've looked at the fellowships on the website, but I don't see any that provide a tuition waiver. I'm guessing I simply cannot go if I don't get the TA, but I'd love it if someone chimed in to tell me different.

Good luck to all...


hamlet3145


Mar 19, 2008, 11:25 AM

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We've had a couple of initially non-funded people able to land positions that granted a tutition waiver but it is rare. It is also still possible you could get a TA--I know some folk's were awarded them in late spring or even at the last minute. There is also a way to get in state tuition by your second year. And another loophole that can basically allow you not to have to pay for your 12 thesis credits. That said, if you have a funding offer from another good school you should probably give priority, unless Montana was your top choice.


dickenscratch



Mar 19, 2008, 11:49 AM

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Thanks, Jason. It is actually my top choice, but I won't be able to go without funding, unfortunately. The good thing is that I have other offers with full funding. But wow, how frustrating to get in to your top choice but not be able to attend!


hamlet3145


Mar 19, 2008, 11:55 AM

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It ain't over 'till it's over, so you might still give things a couple of weeks to see if something materializes. There is no guarantee that those initial five awarded TA's are all going to come.


dickenscratch



Mar 19, 2008, 11:58 AM

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Kealey's book says that about 1/2 are funded with TAs. So is that 5 for poetry and 5 for fiction?


hamlet3145


Mar 19, 2008, 1:20 PM

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That sounds about right with throwing in a 1-2 for non-fiction.


Vesuvia


Mar 19, 2008, 2:45 PM

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calling Montana [In reply to] Can't Post

I posted a version of this in "I'm In"...

Just called Montana - I'm in for poetry! Spoke with Karen Sturm, who was very friendly and didn't at all seem to mind looking up my decision (I had seen that other people here had called, and I couldn't stand waiting anymore). She kept saying that the poetry committee had fallen behind and said that my letter had "just gone to the Graduate Office" so I probably wouldn't get it until the end of March - so if anyone else is waiting impatiently, call!

She also said I was "in the middle of the pack" for funding, but that some spots would probably open up, and they wouldn't know until April if I would get one of them. Not sure what that means in terms of actual likelihood of something coming through. I couldn't tell if that meant middle of the pack of a funding waitlist, or middle overall - it's the difference between hoping 5 people turn down a TA vs hoping that 8-10 do, which seems very unlikely.

Jason or anyone else, how many people do you think turn down Montana, thus opening up the funding waitlist? (If this question was already answered, I'm sorry for repeating - I'm running on caffeine and sugar today, so I'm a little scattered.)


hamlet3145


Mar 19, 2008, 2:52 PM

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Overall Montana assumes that 50% of accepted people come. Now, that includes funded and non-funded. I would think that more than 50% who are offered TAs will wind up showing up in the fall. That said, don't give up on the TA train just yet..

P.S. Congrats!


amandadeleted


Mar 19, 2008, 3:51 PM

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I'm in the same boat. Accepted for fiction, no TAship. I'm really confused about Montana's financial aid options. They don't offer any other tuition-waivers, right? I'm guessing people work part-time, apply for fellowships, etc. I'd be interested to hear more about how people make it work, because right now I'm starting to resign myself to not going. It doesn't help that my other option is Columbia (with 1/2 tuition funding, but still more expensive). Oy.


hamlet3145


Mar 19, 2008, 4:00 PM

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If Montana were a smaller program, everyone would be funded. Folks who come primarily rely on loans to get by + working part time. It is quite doable. But you would graduate with debt. (Last time I checked graduate students are eligible for up to $18,500 in subsidized and unsubsidized loans with interest rates around 6-7%). It's possible to get in-state tuition by the second year by only taking 6 credits per semester during your first. This really turns it into a three year degree though. (Not neccesarily a bad thing).

I'm not pimping the loans idea here, but I do know of two recent student who came in with no funding, did not get jobs and spent hours every day writing in the free time this provided. One left Montana with a Wisconsin Fellowship the other with a Fullbright. Both are now in top Ph.d. programs and have published well.

I don't regret coming in unfunded, but it is not for everybody.


rparks624


Mar 19, 2008, 4:33 PM

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So I found out today that I don't have funding. I'll be moving to MT anyway with my husband and small dog. Thanks for the tips on how to still survive without funding, Jason.

I'm a little nervous about it all!


ancorder


Mar 19, 2008, 5:12 PM

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So a few days after e-mailing I finally heard back from Montana and was told that "a nonacceptance letter" was on its way to me.

I'm going to assume that's their nice way of saying "rejected." Yes?


ali888


Mar 21, 2008, 10:40 AM

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Jason,

I am in a similar situation as some of the people here (I've been admitted in fiction, but I'm on the middle of the funding list, so no TA yet). I was wondering: Montana is a fairly large program, so how do you feel about the attention you/your work has received from professors? Do you feel Montana is a nurturing place? Obviously a writer has to be ready to work hard in any MFA program (and the success of Montana's graduates proves that the students there do work hard), but what kind of environment is created by the professors and fellow students? I also got in with funding to two other less prestigious but slightly smaller programs, but Montana was initially my top choice, and I wanted to get a sense of the atmosphere from current students. Any thoughts?


hamlet3145


Mar 21, 2008, 11:58 AM

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Montana is about 45 students total in the program. This number includes fiction, poetry and non-fiction. The main bennefit of this is that there are usualy two workshop per genre (except non-fiction) for you to choose from. I really like the size and wouldn't enjoy a smaller department where you are in the same class with everyone ever single semester. (I think you'd get diminishing returns as to comments that way). The program is very, very social. We have Mary Gaitskills reading here tonight and I'm sure one of the faculty will be having a post-reading reception that we will all be invited too. People often go out after workshop together as well. If there is anyone who doesn't like being here, I don't know who they are.

What are the programs you got into with funding? (PM me if you'd like). If I had an idea of what you are choosing between I might have better advice.


Osiris


Mar 23, 2008, 10:06 AM

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Any other poets considering Montana? I'm 90% sure I'll be in Missoula come this summer! Feel free to e-mail me at free2accept4life <at> yahoo <dot> com. Peace.


rparks624


Mar 24, 2008, 11:02 AM

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Will any of you be in Montana this June/July? I'm in for fiction and will be moving there. Anyone want to meet up or talk more? My email is robu624@gmail.com.


rparks624


Mar 25, 2008, 10:05 AM

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Jason- Do you know of good places to live in Missoula?


hamlet3145


Mar 25, 2008, 11:36 AM

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I'd highly recommend finding a place near the university & downtown. This would allow one to walk or bike to just about everything. The rent might be slightly more, but I really think it is worth it. As you start to look into apartments, feel free to PM me any particular addresses you are considering and I can pass along what I might know.

P.S. Congrats on your acceptance!

(BTW, there is a Montana MFA Facebook group if you (or anyone else) might like to put some faces to names and see some current students and recent alums). http://www.facebook.com/...p.php?gid=4111579671

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