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clarabow


Mar 13, 2006, 12:20 AM

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I totally got waitlisted at JHU...but you can't diss it, b/c it's still awesome (even tho it rejected me). I mean, come on: it's got Stephen Dixon, ALICE MCDERMOT, John Irwin...so many other incredible faculty. How can you put it down? How can you not go there? Ahh! Wish I had gotten in - SO BAD!


mandavogel


Mar 13, 2006, 1:13 PM

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SIBYLINE--

You rock...thanks for defending me, I felt a little attacked there! I mean, I can read, ya know. haha. Anyway, doesn't matter now since I've been rejected and I'm sure it had nothing to do with GRE scores. Thanks again, though for defending my honor (which is, as usual, in question. haha.)

CLARABOW:

Did you get watlisted at JHU? I thought you said you were rejected?! I do not consider a waitlist a rejection. I consider a real NO (which I got from them) a rejection b/c it means there's zero chance!

Best of luck, either way. You are so encouraging--you deserve it!


clarabow


Mar 13, 2006, 1:26 PM

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whoops almost posted this under my roommate's account (yeah, i dragged her into the evil clutches of the speakeasy).

i don't know why i wrote waitlisted. probably losing my mind from the waiting.

i was flat-out rejected at JHU.

bah.


sibyline


Mar 13, 2006, 1:35 PM

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SIBYLINE--

You rock...thanks for defending me, I felt a little attacked there! I mean, I can read, ya know. haha. Anyway, doesn't matter now since I've been rejected and I'm sure it had nothing to do with GRE scores. Thanks again, though for defending my honor (which is, as usual, in question. haha.)


ha ha. no problem. i actually wrote an even snarkier response to the matlock comment, but i decided not to bite. sorry about the rejection. if it makes you feel any better, i was rejected too.


motet
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Mar 13, 2006, 2:14 PM

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You got me there, Matlock. I was really just trying to bash Johns Hopkins.

If it wasn't for you and those meddling kids, I'd have gotten away with it.



cyclical, everone here is just trying to be helpful and from what I can see, trying in a respectful and genuine way. So....ease up on the sarcasm, OK?


Dana Davis
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(This post was edited by motet on Mar 15, 2006, 6:08 PM)


Clench Million
Charles

Mar 15, 2006, 3:36 PM

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Its pretty much been said, but even if the GRE test is stupid and doesn't measure much... it is required by like 75% of MFA programs. I don't see any reason to single JHU out here... for all we know its a decision from the administration, not the writing program.

That said, I still haven't heard a peep from JHU and I live close to Baltimore. Haven't all the rejections and acceptances gone out yet?


franz

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Mar 15, 2006, 7:22 PM

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Does anybody know of anybody else who has been accepted for JHU, in either fiction or poetry? (I'm in fiction.) I would really like to get in touch with other acceptees. The odds may seem long, but then HopperFu and Sybiline did find each other, after all.


Franz Knupfer, author of short stories and novels


bigcities


Mar 22, 2006, 2:28 AM

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Hey, I just heard from JHU (or, more specifically, Stephen Dixon) last Thursday - a surprise, considering that a) I didn't take the GRE Subject Test, b) my undergrad GPA was about 2.9 (3.2 in my major), c) my foreign language skills are remedial at best, d) I got my BA from some state school in the midwest, and e) I've only been out of school for one short, temp work-laden year. Earlier today, I filed and shredded about thirty pounds of paper for some random business in Midtown. Come August, I'll be teaching undergraduate comp. Thank god I learned how to write.


sibyline


Mar 22, 2006, 10:59 AM

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Hey, I just heard from JHU (or, more specifically, Stephen Dixon) last Thursday - a surprise, considering that a) I didn't take the GRE Subject Test, b) my undergrad GPA was about 2.9 (3.2 in my major), c) my foreign language skills are remedial at best, d) I got my BA from some state school in the midwest, and e) I've only been out of school for one short, temp work-laden year. Earlier today, I filed and shredded about thirty pounds of paper for some random business in Midtown. Come August, I'll be teaching undergraduate comp. Thank god I learned how to write.


That's awesome, bigcities! Congratulations. It's nice to see that Franz has a friend. Are you in fiction? I go on and on about Alice McDermott every chance I get. By midtown I assume you mean New York? Franz, your fellow Hopkins acceptee, and a number of us are planning to get together in the Village on Saturday, April 1. Message me if you're interested in joining us.


franz

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Mar 22, 2006, 1:02 PM

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Congrats, bigcities! Have you decided one way or another for sure? I'm about 95% sure I will go to Hopkins. I'll be visiting Baltimore and the campus next week to see how I like it. I've been corresponding with some of the current students and if you have any questions or want to compare notes, just message me.
btw, you should post the news in "the waiting game" forum-- these messages in the smaller threads tend to get lost.


Franz Knupfer, author of short stories and novels


Clench Million
Charles

Mar 22, 2006, 11:29 PM

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I still haven't heard a peep from JHU. Guess I need to call them tomorrow...


franz

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Mar 23, 2006, 1:59 AM

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btw, what's your state school in the midwest? I'm from Iowa City-- went to the U of Iowa. Basically another nameless state school, unless we're talking writing.


Franz Knupfer, author of short stories and novels


bigcities


Mar 23, 2006, 1:15 PM

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Hey, I just heard from JHU (or, more specifically, Stephen Dixon) last Thursday - a surprise, considering that a) I didn't take the GRE Subject Test, b) my undergrad GPA was about 2.9 (3.2 in my major), c) my foreign language skills are remedial at best, d) I got my BA from some state school in the midwest, and e) I've only been out of school for one short, temp work-laden year. Earlier today, I filed and shredded about thirty pounds of paper for some random business in Midtown. Come August, I'll be teaching undergraduate comp. Thank god I learned how to write.


That's awesome, bigcities! Congratulations. It's nice to see that Franz has a friend. Are you in fiction? I go on and on about Alice McDermott every chance I get. By midtown I assume you mean New York? Franz, your fellow Hopkins acceptee, and a number of us are planning to get together in the Village on Saturday, April 1. Message me if you're interested in joining us.



Unfortunately, I'm going to be out of town that weekend. I hope the get-together goes well, though...


Clench Million
Charles

Mar 30, 2006, 2:56 AM

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Waitlisted :(

You two sure you dont' want to go somewhere else?


Glinda Bamboo


Sep 10, 2006, 6:35 PM

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I'm interested in applying to the JHU MFA program this year, but I keep hearing mixed things. Does this program encourage experimental writing, like Brown? I don't consider my fiction experimental and I wouldn't want to apply to a school if I have no chance from the beginning.

Also, any insight on their foreign language requirement? I can't tell if you have to take an exam near the end of your time in the MFA program or if you have to take one even to get in.

Thanks!


sibyline


Sep 11, 2006, 7:16 PM

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I'm interested in applying to the JHU MFA program this year, but I keep hearing mixed things. Does this program encourage experimental writing, like Brown? I don't consider my fiction experimental and I wouldn't want to apply to a school if I have no chance from the beginning.

Also, any insight on their foreign language requirement? I can't tell if you have to take an exam near the end of your time in the MFA program or if you have to take one even to get in.

I'm not at Hopkins but I know a lot about the program since I have a friend there. I think one of its strengths is the diversity of the faculty in terms of style (Stephen Dixon on the experimental side and Alice McDermott on the more traditional), so I don't think you'd have to worry about needing to be experimental in the same way as Brown.

And I hear that the foreign language requirement isn't tough. I seem to remember my friend saying it's open book translation, but don't quote me on that.


Banyon


Sep 13, 2006, 8:00 PM

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From JH's website:

"MFA applicants should include in their writing sample a two-page introduction and critique of their work. This statement should give admissions faculty a view to the scope and thoughtfulness of the work submitted and a sense of the student's ability to contribute in the writing workshops."

I'd love to hear from others who are applying (or who applied in the past) about how they dealt with this. I like the idea that I get to talk about my work, but I don't know how to talk about and critique ten poems in two pages. What if I just focused on one or two? I also hate that this is the introduction to my work--I would far prefer the kind folks at JH to read my writing sample before hearing me yap about it. It also kind of weirds me out that this statement is in place of a regular old personal statement or SOP.

Also--is this two pages single or double spaced? I assume double. Yeah, yeah, I know I can e-mail them, but I figured someone on here would probably know.

Thanks guys.

-Banyon


renapoo


Sep 20, 2006, 4:37 AM

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I emailed them about the language requirement; apparently you take the test in the fall before you enroll, but it doesn't sound too hard, as some people just brush up on their highschool spanish or whatnot in between their acceptance and enrollment.

As for the Statement/Critique, I'm totally flipping out about it. I'm applying for fiction, so it may be easier to come up with a 2-4 page crit of 2-3 stories, but still. It's like the meanest task an admissions committee has ever come up with. If anybody has any ideas for how to approach this statement of doom, let's hear em.


__________



Sep 20, 2006, 4:58 AM

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Tell them your biggest problem is you're a bit of a perfectionist.


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frolicaway


Sep 22, 2006, 3:18 AM

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Hm. Yeah, that does sound kind of mean. I haven't actually looked at their application process yet, although I'm planning to apply there, too.

I guess, in a way, it could be seen as an opportunity to just blab about what the work is saying? I'll probably focus on what I know is unusual about my work, then explain why I made this and that choice. There's enough that's intentionally bizarre about my manuscript that I don't think I'll have a difficult time. (My Purpose Statements, on the other hand... ugh!)



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I emailed them about the language requirement; apparently you take the test in the fall before you enroll, but it doesn't sound too hard, as some people just brush up on their highschool spanish or whatnot in between their acceptance and enrollment.

As for the Statement/Critique, I'm totally flipping out about it. I'm applying for fiction, so it may be easier to come up with a 2-4 page crit of 2-3 stories, but still. It's like the meanest task an admissions committee has ever come up with. If anybody has any ideas for how to approach this statement of doom, let's hear em.



Banyon


Oct 2, 2006, 12:17 PM

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JH's website says they recommend applicants take the GRE subject test. I sent them an e-mail asking about it, and received a very polite e-mail in response within a few hours. I'm impressed. Here's the news:

"The GRE subject test is recommended, but not required. Some
applicants take it, many do not---it really is totally up to you. If
you do particularly well on standardized tests, maybe you'd like to
consider taking it, but if not, I don't think you'd be adversely
affected. Hope this is a little helpful."

Hooray!


BridgetB


Oct 11, 2006, 10:19 AM

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GRE subject test and the difficulty of getting into Hopkins aside, does anyone have any experience in the Hopkins MFA progam? Would you recommend it? What is the culture like-- are the students collaborative or competitive (or both)? Is the small size of the program and advantage or disadvantage? Are the professors avaiable and helpful?

Thanks!

Bridget


franz

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Oct 11, 2006, 5:32 PM

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Hi all,
I am a first year student in fiction at Hopkins. Last year at this time I was stressing out about applications and I was a Speakeasy addict. I'd be happy to answer any questions about the program.

A few things, and answers to some questions:
GRE subject test: I didn't take it.
Language exam: A pure formality, and supposedly not that hard. (I haven't taken it yet.)
Two page critique of work: I had fun writing it up. Figure out ways to introduce and analyze your work, while tying it in to your own life experience (at least that's what I think).
What's the program like? It's amazing. I'm so happy to be here. Alice McDermott is the best writing teacher I've ever had. She alone is worth being here. Stephen Dixon is retiring at the end of the year, so there is some uncertainty about that. Those of us in the fiction program are not incredibly excited about the top candidate, though he is rather prolific. I'm not an expert on poetry, but Mary Jo Salter is on board now. There have been mixed reviews about her teaching style.
My classmates are wonderful, though that's something that may vary from year to year. When I visited last year, the fiction workshop didn't seem particularly cohesive as a community. This year, it is. I can promise any incoming students that the current first-year students are great.
The opportunity to teach for two years is fabulous. We're all really enjoying this part of the program. And there are all kinds of perks-- for example, we have our own librarian to do research for us.

Some downsides of the program:
Baltimore is not that great-- on the bright side, I like it a lot more than I did when I first moved here, and the program makes that worth it.
Diversity-- I want to see more cultural and gender diversity-- this isn't as much of a problem in poetry as in fiction. Too many guys in the fiction workshop! I hope we have more women next year.
Trial by fire teaching-- we're thrown into the teaching process from the get-go. We were incredibly stressed out about it at first, but for me this has ended up being an upside, not a downside.
Cut the cupola-- Right now, we have the most awesome classroom-- right beneath the belltower of Gilman Hall, the main building on campus. Well, that's getting grand-fathered out at the end of the year. We're all disappointed about that-- it has 12-foot tall windows, an amazing view, lots of light.

BTW, I have a blog if you want to check it out-- I've written more extensively about Hopkins and Baltimore in there.
unstruck-sound.blogspot.com
Feel free to ask me any other questions.


Franz Knupfer, author of short stories and novels


BridgetB


Oct 11, 2006, 5:45 PM

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Thanks Franz, it's really helpful to have an insiders' viewpoint. Just wondering: I know there are only 6 fiction applicants in each incoming class; do you know how many applicants are vying for those positions? (Congrats on being one of the lucky few.) Also, what are you teaching and how many students do you have?

I live in DC, so I'm passingly familiar with Baltimore, aka Charm City. Maybe this is the wrong way to be thinking, but at least rent it cheap, right? (Cheaper than DC anyway...)


franz

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Oct 12, 2006, 11:00 AM

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Thanks Franz, it's really helpful to have an insiders' viewpoint. Just wondering: I know there are only 6 fiction applicants in each incoming class; do you know how many applicants are vying for those positions? (Congrats on being one of the lucky few.) Also, what are you teaching and how many students do you have?

I live in DC, so I'm passingly familiar with Baltimore, aka Charm City. Maybe this is the wrong way to be thinking, but at least rent it cheap, right? (Cheaper than DC anyway...)



We have 9 1st year students this year, only 2 second year students (this is fiction--poetry is more balanced in 1st/2nd year students). This is because Hopkins switched from a one-year to a two-year program three years ago, and many of of the people in the one-year program ended up in the two-year program. (Yes, a little confusing.) I'm not sure how many will be admitted next year, since the program is still balancing out.
How many applicants? I think there were about 200 or so for fiction last year?

I'm teaching Intro to Fiction and Poetry (we all are). The great thing about this class is that we get a lot of structure but we're free to be flexible in the way we teach it. We need to be, since so much is crammed into the class. This semester I'm teaching Frost, Gwendolyn Brooks, Seamus Heaney, Nabokov, Welty, Henry James, with a few theoretical books thrown in. That's on top of the students writing creative assignments (everything from memoir to short story to iambic pentameter), and everyone gets workshopped twice. (Quite likely I'll be teaching IFP-2 at some point, which includes the likes of Calvino-- IFP-1 is realist/metrical stuff, IFP-2 more fabulist/experimental stuff.) I really like that I'll be getting two years of teaching experience, and will have experience with teaching creative writing, workshopping, and standard lit, all in one. I have 17 students, which is the max. Some of my classmates have only ten students. The students here are amazing, and this is something to consider for any teaching job. I went to Iowa for undergrad, and my classmates in the English department just didn't work as hard or participate as much as the students do here. I'd recommend to anybody to take that in consideration in terms of teaching-- how good will your students be? Because having students this great makes my job more enjoyable, fulfilling, and inspiring.

Yes, rent is cheaper than it is in D.C. Expect to pay in the range of $500-700. I pay $600 and I have an awesome two-bedroom rowhome with one of the other fiction students. Charles Village, Hampden and Mount Vernon are all close to Hopkins and are relatively hip (compared to the rest of the city anyway, but not compared to Portland, Oregon, where I came form-- so it's all relative).

For all of you considering Hopkins-- this was the one school I thought I absolutely wouldn't get into. I thought it would be stuffy, considering how the website is worded, and Hopkins does have that reputation. But this is not the case at all with the program. As far as styles, we have a wide range. There are definitely several more experimental students, and a few more conventional. I think Alice's advice has been amazing regardless of what style we write in. She always gets to the nuts and bolts of a piece.

Bridget, since you live in D.C., you should visit at some point. I'd be happy to meet up over tea (in Baltimore, not D.C.) I'm in fiction, which are you? I could give some info about poetry, though I'm not quite as informed.


Franz Knupfer, author of short stories and novels

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