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Aubrie


Oct 24, 2006, 12:18 PM

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Re: [mediano tzu] the lowest possible score? [In reply to] Can't Post

Look at PW's MFA toolkit. The confessions of an MFA application reader should settle your nerves about the GREs. Like I said in a post earlier, I think GREs will be considered if you are applying for a competitive fellowship, or if you're neck and neck with another applicant whose writing ability is similar to your own. Otherwise, put your confidence in your manuscript. Make sure your SOP shines. I wouldn't retake the test unless you are applying to schools that have specific cutoffs for scores (I suppose OSU does, it was mentioned in an earlier post?).


Glinda Bamboo


Oct 24, 2006, 1:00 PM

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Someone said OSU has a GRE requirement of 1200, but I believe their MFA site says they just want at least a 600 on the verbal.


plumagemour


Oct 24, 2006, 2:35 PM

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do you guys know if any other schools have minimum requirements. i know some sites give averages of what accepted students generally score, but i havent come across any other programs that give minimums.


GDClark
George David Clark
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Oct 24, 2006, 2:51 PM

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I got the OSU cutoff score I mentioned from a member of the MFA faculty this past spring. He complained about the restrictions the creative writing department was being forced to operate under by the graduate school. I think he'd been forced to turn down someone he was otherwise interested in.

That said, if there's newer information up on the website I'd go by it.

I would encourage everyone to take the GRE seriously though. It might not be nearly as important as your manuscript but it is an opportunity to impress. Why not give it your best effort? As W. S. Di Piero points out in the new _Poetry_ our culture is one "where poems can be faked." I would encourage everyone (and especially the poets) to view the GRE and your Personal Statement as an opportunity to show schools you're also a scholar.


laughingman


Nov 14, 2006, 3:23 PM

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Is anyone else having trouble running these down? Some schools, like Indiana, give you both on their web site. Others give you either one or neither. Some schools want the scores to go to the Eng Dept (2501), others to the CW dept (2503)--but some don't specify! Do you just submit it to the institution code and hope it gets filed appropriately?

Anyone submitted all their scores yet and have any pointers/ insights ?

-Crying in KS


(This post was edited by laughingman on Nov 14, 2006, 3:56 PM)


allisonbarrett


Nov 14, 2006, 4:25 PM

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There is a link on the ets website with all the institution codes. I've been using the creative writing code (2503) for all of them. I haven't come across any instructions about sending the scores to the english department. Which schools have you found that tell you to do that?
Also, to change the subject a little (sorry!), I got a 710 in verbal and a 670 in math, but I only got a 3.5 on the writing. That's in the 17th percentile! I froze up on the essay and spent a lot of time pouting and watching the time tick away. I barely wrote anything. I hope this won't matter, but I'm a little worried. Reassure me?


Aubrie


Nov 14, 2006, 4:30 PM

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Reassurance: Your other scores are really, really strong. And you're applying to a writing program that will familiarize themselves with your writing abilities through your sample and SOP. And of course you'll blow that 3.5 out of the water with those, right? AND - rumor has it very few programs give an f about your GRE scores.

I have to reassure myself as well, I only got a 4.5. And hated every minute of writing the ridiculous essays. About coal mining. Coal mining. Blech.

I wouldn't worry at all.


laughingman


Nov 14, 2006, 5:04 PM

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I'm double checking everything, now, but I have varied (not 2503) instructions for Purdue: they want it sent to Dept code 2599, I believe. I'd written in my notes that U of Minn wanted it sent to 2501 (the Eng Dept), but that might have been a matter of me erroneosly writing something down or their site not being as specific as I'd like. Anyone have any other anomalies to share?




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There is a link on the ets website with all the institution codes. I've been using the creative writing code (2503) for all of them. I haven't come across any instructions about sending the scores to the english department. Which schools have you found that tell you to do that?
Also, to change the subject a little (sorry!), I got a 710 in verbal and a 670 in math, but I only got a 3.5 on the writing. That's in the 17th percentile! I froze up on the essay and spent a lot of time pouting and watching the time tick away. I barely wrote anything. I hope this won't matter, but I'm a little worried. Reassure me?



plumagemour


Nov 14, 2006, 9:54 PM

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i'm also confused; was i somehow supposed to input these codes in during my test day or are these just for when you're at home, want to send your scores to schools in addition to your covered 4?
also did anyone else have trouble with johns hopkins at the test site? there were about 8 different johns hopkins divisions listed as options and all of them were technical-- engineering, math, weird forms of biology...
i just picked one that had the creative writing subdivision available to select under the list of fields of study. should that be a problem? should i resend my scores?


laughingman


Nov 15, 2006, 2:53 AM

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I've organized myself and am doing it tomorrow.

You go to www.ets.org, you use Adobe Acrobat to download their little booklet of institution and department codes, and then you call an 800 number to submit your scores to your programs, using the institution and dept codes. I think it's $15 a program, $6 a call, with a maximum of 8 programs per call.

I think you were probaly supposed to go with 5332 (Johns Hopkins U A&S).

-laugher



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i'm also confused; was i somehow supposed to input these codes in during my test day or are these just for when you're at home, want to send your scores to schools in addition to your covered 4?
also did anyone else have trouble with johns hopkins at the test site? there were about 8 different johns hopkins divisions listed as options and all of them were technical-- engineering, math, weird forms of biology...
i just picked one that had the creative writing subdivision available to select under the list of fields of study. should that be a problem? should i resend my scores?



vronsky


Nov 15, 2006, 9:19 PM

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Six dollars a call?! What the...can't you just send the dang things in online? I can buy an omelet with that kind of money. Jesus. For a phone call?


(This post was edited by maggiekate on Nov 15, 2006, 9:20 PM)


JKicker
Jonathan

Nov 16, 2006, 1:50 AM

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I just took the test today, thought I'd report in. 550 on math, 570 on verbal. Not great at all, but we'll see where that gets me. I ran out of time and had to skip 6 or 7 questions on the math section...damn the number crunchers. Either way, i'm just glad its over and I can now concentrate on what's really important-begging for admission.

Good luck to the rest of you!


Glinda Bamboo


Nov 16, 2006, 10:03 AM

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Aw, look. Maggiekate is getting her first taste of how corrupt and evil ETS is. :) Seriously, though, they suck. (WHY does it cost $15 per score report? Why charge even MORE to order by phone?)

But you don't need to pay that ridiculous phone fee if you send for your scores via mail or fax. I mailed mine in. We'll see if my $60 score report fee will help them be organized enough to send the scores off. I can't believe it cost me like $180 to take this test that schools won't care about anyway. Not to mention that two of my top choice schools don't require the GRE. Imagine if I get into those schools and nowhere else. Die, GRE. Die.

By the way, for those with Johns Hopkins code questions -- I believe the JH MFA website lists the exact codes to send your scores to.


plumagemour


Nov 16, 2006, 12:23 PM

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actually i put johns hopkins after taking my gre test. and as far as i know there were no code options, we just picked the schools and programs through a list. even so, they wouldn't even let me take in a light jacket into the testing room, much less a piece of paper with all the correct codes.

is there any way for meto view the schools and departments i pick during the test day online without having to call them?

also is there a form on their website that i can fill out to mail in my request?that 6 dollar fee is ridiculous, especially considering i only have 1 more school to send the scores to


Aubrie


Nov 16, 2006, 12:31 PM

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There isn't a way to do it online, but I can offer this information: I did mine through the mail - I sent out my paperwork Oct. 24th, and I know UT Austin received the score reports Nov. 9th. And I just received a copy of my scores in the mail Monday, along with a listing of all the schools that I had them sent to.

And, strangely, my percentile for verbal has gone up a point from my first score reports (sent last year), to the score reports sent out this time. Which I won't complain about. But I still find a little weird.

So after all my worrying, ETS did pull through and and send the scores in a timely manner, even though I did opt for pony express over telephone. And they rewarded me with one percentile point. Wheeeee!


laughingman


Nov 16, 2006, 12:55 PM

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You can either phone, fax, or mail. For some reason I didn't even think about mailing or faxing- I just phoned. The automated process wasn't too bad and the system confirmed the name of the school after each inst code I entered. I called twice and entered twelve programs all together. If I had it to do again (like if I find out I screwed up) I would probably fax.

For what it's worth, I used dept code 2503 for every school except Purdue. I emailed Purdue's office and they confirmed 2599- as it said on their website.


Teiran
Tim

Nov 16, 2006, 1:59 PM

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actually i put johns hopkins after taking my gre test. and as far as i know there were no code options, we just picked the schools and programs through a list. even so, they wouldn't even let me take in a light jacket into the testing room, much less a piece of paper with all the correct codes.

is there any way for meto view the schools and departments i pick during the test day online without having to call them?

also is there a form on their website that i can fill out to mail in my request?that 6 dollar fee is ridiculous, especially considering i only have 1 more school to send the scores to


This was my experience as well, as far as entering the four destinations for the free reports after the test: no numerical codes involved. Now that I think about it, I can't even be sure if those were sent to the proper place despite all the time that process took; some voice in the back of my head was nagging me about being even more careful with that part than with the actual GRE, but I was tired of the whole thing by then and I'm sure I found a way to screw it up. Ah, well. I was going to have to use at least three extra score reports anyway. I guess four more isn't that big a deal, for the opportunity to make sure everything ends up where it's supposed to be.

After all this, I really do hope that if--a colossal if, at this point--I do get into a program, it ends up being one of the ones that does ask for GRE scores as part of the application process. I don't even care if it's the most cursory of glances at the score report. I know, it's a petty thing to ask, but I want to know that taking that exam was good for *something.*


JKicker
Jonathan

Nov 22, 2006, 2:07 AM

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I've been having some issues with these dept codes myself. I pulled up the ets list on gre.org and found the code for creative writing departments easily enough, but what are you supposed to do with schools like Umass Amherst that want GRE scores sent to the graduate department or in Syracuse's case the Graduate Enrollment Management Center? How do you ensure your scores make it to these sorts of departments? Am I missing that dept on the list? Florida State and Alabama also want scores sent to graduate departments...argh.


jargreen

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Nov 22, 2006, 4:02 PM

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GRE Rap [In reply to] Can't Post

G-R-E is a joke. Don't believe the hype.



Or maybe not. Maybe it's important. I just like Public Enemy, so I thought I'd try to rap.

I just took the dang thing today for the first time. Now, I haven't taken a math course in nine years, and I'm sure I've forgotten everything except long division. Love long division. And I was fairly overwhelmed by several of the questions, was sure I'd score a 273. I scored a 710 on the math part, which I'm told is a pretty good score for creative writing types. Ha!

I got a 650 on verbal, which kinda sorta disappointed me. Then, when I got out to the car, I looked in the mirror and gave myself a pep talk. I've decided, any school that gives a medium to high priority to that test I just took today is not a school at which I would anticipate getting a decent quality of education.


Aubrie


Nov 22, 2006, 4:22 PM

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So get up - get - get - get down.
GRE is a joke in yo town.


eesa


Dec 22, 2006, 5:36 PM

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I did something awful. During the last couple weeks of the semester, I was so stressed and busy that I forgot about sending my GREs. I realized today that it was past time to send them. The website says they'll send the reports in "approximately 5 business days." The deadlines for UVa and U of Washington are Jan. 1. If the schools don't get the scores by then, will they still consider me? It seems so trivial.....


harja


Dec 22, 2006, 6:26 PM

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Eesa, I called and had my scores sent on Monday and one of my schools reported getting them a day or two ago, so I suspect the others have recieved them but haven't posted them. I would forget about the mail or fax thing and just pay the extra 6 bucks. Hope this helps.


HopperFu


Dec 23, 2006, 5:46 AM

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I don't think you'll automatically get rejected because of it, but if you haven't already, get ETS to send them whatever the quickest way possible is.
I mean, don't freak out about it: while the GREs are required, they aren't what the creative writing programs care about. They are needed, almost exclusively, for the graduate school (which, yes, is different from the writing program, weird), so if they get there a couple of days late I think you'll be fine. Just get them there.
Something awful would be using Flannery O'Connor's "A Good Man is Hard to Find" as your writing sample. I'm guessing you'd get busted for that.


rooblue


Dec 23, 2006, 8:58 AM

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Good suggestion, HopperFu. Suppose you started like this: "The great-aunt did not want to go to Wisconsin," -- and the killer's soubriquet was "the Malcontent," do you think anyone would notice? :-)


lili99


Dec 23, 2006, 9:43 AM

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eesa, i saw your post and freaked out a little because i, too, had forgotten to send my scores to uva... i think it should be fine, though. also, i did a little investigation on their website and saw the following in the faq section of the uva graduate school website:

If you have a personal copy of the required test scores, sending a photocopy will speed evaluation of your application.

i think i'm going to do this (as well as order the official score report). i'm a little worried about how the names of the other schools i am applying to are listed on my score report and maybe uva's feelings will be hurt that i chose to send my scores to those schools first... but then i realize i'm being crazy CRAZY! i hope. right?

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