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Aubrie


Oct 12, 2007, 2:52 PM

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I would ask your recommenders which they prefer - mine preferred the online option when available.
There's also something gratifying about knowing exactly when they've submitted their recs. (And you know when to check in, nudge, etc.)

Leave the decision in their hands and that way you know you're making it as easy as possible for them.


mpagan


Oct 12, 2007, 2:56 PM

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That makes sense to me. Give them a choice - hmmm - why didn't I think of that.

Thanks!


MissEsquire



Oct 12, 2007, 4:44 PM

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I've not even started the essays yet - hope to get to that soon.

I somehow feel like there is more competition out there - why is that?

Maybe it's just me - but I feel like all the schools that offer full funding are going to get more applications this year - just a feeling.

Anyway - I'm glad we are applying to the same schools, that way I can ask you a million questions about things I am sure I will forget.


Sometimes I feel the same way but, you know, I think it's always the same number of people applying. It's just that the numbers always seem daunting when you're one of them.


aluminum


Oct 12, 2007, 5:36 PM

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i can now check the damn GRE off my list, as well as the recommendations. my writing sample is mostly ready, so that leaves the statement, the actual application forms and in come cases, a brief teaching thingamajig.

here's my list:

cornell
iowa
syracuse
brown
u. of texas (austin)
u. of oregon (eugene)


HA! can you believe it? six. it's almost as though i am counting on a guardian angel to swoop down from the heavens and sort my life out... i hope they don't mind me using words like thingamajig.


Rambler


Oct 12, 2007, 8:55 PM

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Is anybody an alum or applying to Notre Dame? Just wondering what people think about this program.

And kudos to the people who have already taken the GRE and gotten those letters out...Even though I know my writing sample is what counts the most, these two things are what I am most dreading...


bighark


Oct 13, 2007, 1:59 PM

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BishopPeale


Oct 13, 2007, 2:19 PM

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Not to change the question too abruptly, but if one, theoretically, hated their current program and wanted to apply to schools for next fall, how would one go about it? Do i have to disclose the fact that i'm enrolled in another program to the schools i applied to? has anyone done this?


vmalone
Vanessa
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Oct 14, 2007, 1:49 AM

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Thanks for getting the dialogue up and going again mpagan. I was beginning to feel like I am incredibly behind everyone in the app process. I have my 3 recommenders, but i have yet to take or study for the GRE and my sample is still not where I want it to be.
I'm Nonfiction, so I dont have too many schools in common with you all, because unfortunately, so many amazing schools dont have cnf yet, but these are my traditional programs (im also applying to some low res). I want to get out to the East Coast for the mag/publishing intern opportunities. And I'm itching to get out of AZ where i've been stuck since undergrad. My maybes are schools with little funding, and Emerson i just dont know much about.

1. Columbia
2. New School
3. Rutgers-Newark
4. Rutgers- Camden
5. UNC-Wilmington
6. Sarah Lawrence (maybe)
7. Emerson (maybe)
8. UNH


Zash
Zachary Ash

Oct 14, 2007, 2:36 AM

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I'm in the process of completing the online applications. Also I have two profs lined-up to write letters, so I need to corral one more, and I've taken the GRE. Next I need to request transcripts. I think I have a good story to submit as my writing sample; maybe I'll send something else too. Fiction is my concentration. What's left then is the most intimidating item: the personal statement. What to say?!

Here's my list:

Brown
Iowa
Minnesota
Michigan
Montana
Texas
UC Davis
Wisconsin


(This post was edited by Zash on Oct 14, 2007, 2:39 AM)


mr.shankly


Oct 15, 2007, 2:57 AM

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So far, finalizing a list feels like an accomplishment. I'm taking the GRE in three weeks and hope my scores will be high enough that I won't need to alter this again. All the other aspects -- letters, statement, the somewhat important writing sample -- have taken a backseat while researching schools and studying.

In no particular order:
1. UC Irvine
2. Indiana
3. Iowa
4. U. Mass
5. Michigan
6. NYU
7. Oregon
8. U. Houston
9. UT Austin
10. Virginia

I'm applying in fiction.


bennyprof


Oct 15, 2007, 10:38 AM

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Wow, tough list! Don't think any of those have an acceptance rate much higher than 5%. Good luck with the GRE.


(This post was edited by bennyprof on Oct 15, 2007, 10:42 AM)


molybdenum


Oct 15, 2007, 9:00 PM

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I'm finalizing my list as well...this is my second go-around. I'm a fiction wait-list reject from George Mason, and hopefully with some revised writing samples and a new batch of schools (and a few old ones), things will turn around. It didn't help that I only applied to programs ranked in the top 15 last year, so I've tried to break down my list with a healthy group of both dream schools and schools I might have a chance getting into.

In no particular order:
George Mason
Syracuse
Penn State
Hollins University
Amherst
Wisconsin-Madison
Bowling Green
Iowa
Wilmington
Greensboro
Indiana

I'm thinking of cutting one of the NC schools, but need to do a bit more research before I make a decision. Any thoughts are always appreciated.


Zash
Zachary Ash

Oct 16, 2007, 2:39 AM

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I'm thinking of adding one more school to my list. I love New England. Does anyone know anything about the funding situation at U Mass?


edwriter



Oct 16, 2007, 7:49 AM

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There are now programs at UMass-Amherst and UMass-Boston. Which one are you thinking about? (Not that I'll be able to help you, but someone else might.)


Best,
Erika D.


Quiet Americans: Stories
http://www.erikadreifus.com



mr.shankly


Oct 16, 2007, 11:44 AM

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According to Kealey, U Mass has excellent funding. That's where he did his MFA. Check this out -- http://www.umass.edu/...g/mfa/admission.html


mr.shankly


Oct 16, 2007, 11:51 AM

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You've got me worried about my list being a bit ambitious. How many schools did you apply to last year? Which of the schools on your list now are considering to have a better chance at getting into? This is my first time applying, and the closer it gets to application time, the more neurotic I'm becoming.

You're list looks good to me. The only program I didn't read about is Bowling Green. I have a friend at George Mason (in nonfiction) who says she a bit unsure of the program, but likes the area a lot. Fairfax is a cool place if you've never been, and it's quick train ride into DC.


mpagan


Oct 16, 2007, 1:14 PM

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I think your list is ambitious - and maybe it should be. If those are all the schools you really want to attend then that's that. But I suppose it's true that if you vary your list with schools with higher acceptance rates then you might be giving yourself some wiggle room for getting into some program. But remember, if a program is popular then it must be for a reason: funding, faculty, alumni - what have you, and it will always be a hard nut to crack. I guess what I am saying is - that if you just want to go to an M.F.A and are not really that picky then open you list to different schools. (Although I don't know of any school that is easy to get into) But in the end, you should apply exactly where you want to go and be prepared to apply a few times should you not get in. Research different schools and put them on your list only if their a good fit with your criteria, maybe your criteria will change, who knows, but for now, do what you got to do. When people look at your list and say, "Wow, tough list. Who do you think you are? Mr. /Ms Next Hot Thing in Fiction or Poetry?" You say, "Uh, maybe, I don't know, I just like those schools." Don't be discouraged and don't be dismayed - you might get into one of those schools! And if not –you pick yourself up and try again next year.


bighark


Oct 16, 2007, 1:49 PM

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I'm here to tell you that there's no such thing as an MFA program with a high rate of acceptance. They're all hard to get into. Even the shitty ones.

Mr. Shankly's list is a good one for fiction. Since it appears that geography is not a concern, he may want to consider the following:

Syracuse
University of Minnesota
University of Wisconsin (It's a fiction year this year)
Johns Hopkins University
University of Florida

There are plenty of other prestigious, fully-funded fiction programs I didn't mention. These are just a few that came to mind.

Good luck



Zash
Zachary Ash

Oct 16, 2007, 2:01 PM

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Thanks, Mr Shanlky. That helps - I think I'll apply to U Mass, Amherst. Nine schools on the list, then; I could easily apply to nineteen, and go into debt now. Most likely they'll all say no. Still, it doesn't hurt to roll the dice. Good luck to everyone!


(This post was edited by Zash on Oct 16, 2007, 2:02 PM)


mpagan


Oct 16, 2007, 2:24 PM

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Well schools have different rates of acceptance - some higher than others- That is what I meant by higher acceptance rates. But I think your senitment is the same as mine as far as not worrying about that for right now since it's all really in the end a roll of the dice.

And I think a school can be considered "shitty" for many reasons, that have nothing to do with acceptance rates. I would focus on finding schools that are the best fit for you.


MissEsquire



Oct 16, 2007, 4:11 PM

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Has anyone got to the point in their Syracuse application where they have to attach those mini cover letters to their official transcripts? It seems absolutely bonkers to me. One of my previous universities is 5000 miles away. How do you do this? Phone the registrars?


rpc
ryan call

Oct 16, 2007, 4:39 PM

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i don't know about the nonfiction side of things...so i cant comment on what mrshankly's said

but i can say
im happy with my experience here; it hasn't been easy, but ive learned a lot and ive seen my writing get much better.
also we're really working to build up the community aspect of the program here for fiction. it's always a bit hard when a program seems spread out like it is here, and many students work full time jobs as well...

molybdenum: pm me if youd like? and good luck this time around

(also dc is great, though im not thrilled about fairfax)


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molybdenum


Oct 16, 2007, 7:45 PM

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I applied to 11 schools last year: Austin, UMass Amherst, Brown, Cornell (MFA/PhD), George Mason, Iowa, Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, and Virginia. The wait list nod was a bright spot among the rejections, but I kept a fairly positive outlook on things. It was my first year applying, and a little more life experience doesn't hurt anyone as a writer.

I'm keeping a few in this new list, and adding programs I learned a little more about since I the application process ended last year. I wouldn't say I have a better chance of getting into any of the new programs on my list, some are just not listed in the top of the ratings, but are still rated highly. As everyone says, it's a roll of the dice no matter where it is; there's no such thing as a safety school when it comes to the MFA. Location and funding also became factors this year, more so than last.

Honestly, I'm glad I applied to a "tough list" my first year, and I still think my list is pretty tough this year as well. It's your first time applying, so I say go for it. Who knows? You could get into multiple, outstanding programs, you may not. You'll still gain experience if you have to apply again, and if you don't get in, you can continue writing and revising. If these are the programs you're passionate about, it's completely worth applying to all of them.


bennyprof


Oct 16, 2007, 8:06 PM

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The CR director at the school I attend told me about a friend of his who applied to something like 11-12 schools his first time around and was flat out rejected by all of them. Not a single wait list. Nothing. He took a year off, worked on his stuff (he was a poet), and gave it another shot. On his second try, he was accepted to three of the top poetry programs in the nation (all of which had rejected him the year previous), Virginia among them, which was the offer he accepted. Interestingly enough, the safety programs he had applied to -- in case his top choices didn't pan out -- all turned him down.

It's a flukey thing, this MFA application business; you never know. I admire you for sticking with it.


mr.shankly


Oct 16, 2007, 9:23 PM

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Thanks moly for answering my questions, and thanks bighark for reassuring me in what I already knew -- sometimes, it's good to hear it from other people. I appreciate the suggestions, the schools you listed all have great programs. Geography isn't an issue (except for my wanting to leave the South Eastern region, which is why I'm not applying to Florida). My top two criteria are good funding and a good program.

For those who are still researching, I highly recommend Kealey's MFA Guide. I don't necessarily think he's the all-knowing MFA god, but having the information in hand is convenient. He lists almost the all the programs in the back of the book along with their websites, and there is a section where he picks his 50, which does differ from the US News Report. Also, he discusses the different elements of application. Basically, it's a way to cut time off of researching.

(This post was edited by mr.shankly on Oct 16, 2007, 9:25 PM)

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