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Sep 8, 2006, 6:46 PM

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i spent today revising the new story i workshopped last week...

I'll be darned if I didn't just think of something: what happens when you attend a program with only four acceptees per year? Do you workshop an insane amount of stories per semester?


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sibyline


Sep 8, 2006, 7:46 PM

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i spent today revising the new story i workshopped last week...

I'll be darned if I didn't just think of something: what happens when you attend a program with only four acceptees per year? Do you workshop an insane amount of stories per semester?


we do two pieces a week, three per semester. so that's pretty normal. though one advantage is that since we do two instead of three if you have a 15-person seminar, there aren't really page limits as long as people give enough notice.


wiswriter
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Sep 9, 2006, 6:45 PM

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At the last Bennington residency a couple of friends and I were talking with a faculty member about how admissions decisions are made. He said the personal statement "helps us make sure the person we're admitting isn't insane."


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Sep 9, 2006, 7:02 PM

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Yeah. 'Cause god knows there's never any correlation between art and a certain kind of mental twitteryness. It's that old dictum, keep things dry, safe, and sociable. Keep things AWP!


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pongo
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Sep 10, 2006, 11:52 AM

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In fact, I encountered a couple of people in my MFA program whe were certifiably insane. They were not good or great artists. They were insane. There were plenty of people there who were not "AWP", whatever that means, but the insane ones never finished the program.

They didn't contribute much to the program, either. They looked at everyone else's work through the lens of their own, and made no productive comments.

I think it's fine to keep the insane out of graduate programs.

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Sep 10, 2006, 7:58 PM

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Well, thank god for decades of civil rights and labor struggles, I guess.

One or two person sample sizes aside, I'm sticking w/ what others have fought for with a lot o' time and effort.

And just FYI, 'insane' insn't a clinical term, and a statement of purpose is not a diagnostic tool used by clinical professionals.

I'm just saying...


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laughingman


Sep 11, 2006, 1:38 AM

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AWP?


Banyon


Sep 11, 2006, 7:30 AM

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According to a quick internet search it's the Arctic Warfare Police sniper rifle. Or the Associate of Writers and Writing Program. I'm thinking he meant the former.

:o)

-Banyon


Aubrie


Sep 28, 2006, 11:35 AM

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So I've finished my SOP for my schools that require 250-300 words, but everytime I re-read it, it feels lackluster. I've done exactly what I need to do, but it seems so basic. Is anyone else feeling this way? I know HopperFu had said to keep and simple and let your prose shine, and I think that's the best advice, but my SOP just reads a little BORING. Argh.


renapoo


Sep 28, 2006, 3:51 PM

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Yeah, I wrote what I thought was a pretty snazzy SOP but then, after hearing from people and realizing that the Statement is the place where the committee goes to make sure you're not crazy, I toned it down pretty majorly.

I figure the programs that ask for 250-300 words have to know they're not going to get something interesting. It's the longer ones (like, a 4-page autobiographical statement for Irvine) that are worrying me at this point.


HopperFu


Sep 28, 2006, 3:56 PM

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I know that it probably depends a little on each school, but I still think that the place to wow them with your brilliance and creativity is in your writing sample, and the statement of purpose is simple designed so that they can make sure you are a) committed to writing, and b) not committed in an actual insane asylum


renapoo


Oct 11, 2006, 2:22 PM

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Okay, maybe I am reaching a new level of anality here, but what is the protocol when referring to the program in your personal statement? Is it okay to shorten it (UVA, UMASS), or is that too informal?


GDClark
George David Clark
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Oct 13, 2006, 11:55 AM

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Feel free to abreviate with the name of the school.


bighark


Oct 17, 2006, 5:54 PM

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eeek!

I missed this post.

And I must have not sent that updated story.

Double eek!

At least the reason I haven't heard back from you wasn't because it sucked :)


Banyon


Oct 24, 2006, 10:47 PM

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Okay, so I've gone through five or six drafts of my personal statement, but none of them have worked for anyone but my mother, who just keeps saying she thinks I'm wonderful. I love you, Mom, but you're not on the admissions committee. Apparently I am the world's worst personal statement writer. I sent a copy to a friend of mine who got into Yale for grad school (completely unrelated--physics), and he wasn't a fan either. I figure he knows what works since he got into Yale:o)

So, does anyone want to trade statements and give feedback? I am actually good at helping others with their statements (I helped my roommate revise hers into a form that her advisor liked); I just really stink at revising my own!

-Banyon


wilmabluekitty
Wilma Weant Dague

Oct 25, 2006, 7:54 PM

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I'll have a look. I warn you, I can be ruthless. Mine's not ready--and won't be for a while. Raincheck?


Banyon


Oct 25, 2006, 10:08 PM

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I'll have a look. I warn you, I can be ruthless. Mine's not ready--and won't be for a while. Raincheck?



Thank you so much. No worries--I think my statement is in need of some brutal honesty. Or maybe just some brutality. My e-mail is aopenn @ yahoo.com (but without the spaces). Drop me a line and I'll e-mail my statement. And you definitely get a raincheck for a future edit:o)

Also, weren't you the other person who loves Alice Fulton? It is an honor to have my statement edited by someone with such good taste;o)


Aubrie


Oct 25, 2006, 10:59 PM

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If you're up for another one, I'll gladly trade with you!


Banyon


Oct 25, 2006, 11:39 PM

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I'm definitely up for that, Aubrie. Drop me a line at the e-mail above:o)

-Banyon


darredet
Darren A. Deth


Oct 26, 2006, 6:13 AM

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Hi Banyon:

I'm in a graduate program already right now and would be more than willing to take a look at your personal statement.

If you wish, I can send you mine just to look at.

Darren


Banyon


Oct 26, 2006, 8:37 AM

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Darren, sounds good. My e-mail address is a few messages up:o)

This is great... I thought I'd have trouble getting even one person to look at my statement!

-Banyon


Fear&Loathing


Oct 28, 2006, 6:25 PM

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Is it "a MFA program" or "an MFA program"? Tom Kealey and others use an, but my CW teacher slashed the -n off after looking at my personal statement. Is this one of those gray areas of grammar?

I'm a horrible grammarian and am looking for an opinion on the matter and maybe a reference to something online.


Clench Million
Charles

Oct 28, 2006, 6:45 PM

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As far as I know, it should be "an" as "an" is used before any vowel sound (in this case "em") regardless of whether a vowel starts the word of not.


bighark


Oct 29, 2006, 12:08 AM

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Hey Fear and Loathing,

Clench is right, you use the article "a" before words beginning with consonant sounds, and "an" before words beginning with vowel sounds. That's why it's "an" MFA but "a" Master of Fine Arts (and a Master of Fine Arts is a master's degree...).

I don't know of any online resources you can turn to for confirmation, but I can tell you that I am citing this out of The New York Times Manual of Style and Usage.

Good luck with your applications.


Fear&Loathing


Oct 29, 2006, 1:37 AM

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10-4, BigHark and Clench. Thanks, over.

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