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tayjay


Apr 6, 2006, 11:26 PM

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Has anyone heard from Irvine yet?


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ajmichaelis


Apr 11, 2006, 6:50 PM

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Has anyone heard from San Francisco State or San Jose State? It's April 11, this is killing me! It looks like there's been at least one acceptance posted for SFSU, but I haven't heard anything more....

Thanks!


maida


Apr 12, 2006, 10:31 AM

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I got a phone call letting me know of a fiction acceptance at SFSU on Thursday, March 30. Don't know anything about SJSU. Good luck . . . The waiting is a big drag.


Dirty Deeds


Apr 14, 2006, 7:23 PM

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I got an acceptance email from San Jose State on March 27, and then received a paper copy a week later with some course listings etc...

I applied to the program because I liked the cross-genre requirements and the different opportunities to gain professional working experience in related fields... but I'm really not familiar with them-

I cant find much about the program itself, outside of the school website-
Does anybody know anything about them? Are they good with funding?


DD


the wind



Dec 11, 2006, 10:47 PM

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This was written in Dec 9, 2006's LA Times regarding the UC Riverside Creative Writing Program. I've been telling people, but now that Mike Davis said it, I'm sure people will notice. But I'll say it my way: " Y'all better get in where you fit in." Cause our stock is still rising, but soon, it'll be way too expensive and back to the 1out of 100 craziness of other schools. (http://www.calendarlive.com/books/cl-et-inlandia9dec09,0,4590829.story)

For Morton and others who believe in the power of literature, a true picture of the IE's ethnic diversity and struggles may be just what the place needs. "What's striking about the book is the sheer quality of writing coming out of the Inland Empire, especially the writing program at UC Riverside," said Mike Davis, an author and urban theorist known for his apocalyptic works on L.A., "City of Quartz" and "Ecology of Fear."

Fontana-born Davis, who has a piece in the book, said the Riverside program is turning out some of the best young writers in the country. Students at the more celebrated UC Irvine program (where Davis once taught) have the writing chops but not the multigenerational, multiethnic life experiences of kids in the IE.

"This is the future now," Davis said. "This is where young voices are apt to be most interesting."


tenderloner
Geary'n Hyde

May 1, 2007, 5:43 AM

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Hi folks,

I thought I'd revive this thread, so those of us heading to SoCal can connect. I'm in at Cal Arts and excited about the interdisciplinary nature of the program and campus overall. I grew up in SoCal, but haven't lived there in more than a dozen years.

Any other CalArtians who've sent their deposit and made the great leap of faith?


the wind



May 27, 2007, 3:29 AM

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Something lovely is blooming out in the Inland Empire. My MFA Program at UC Riverside, though only five years old, seems to be on a roll. Recent news:

1. In fiction, we will have our first book published by Houghton Mifflin/Mariner. It is a inter-related collection of stories and is represented by Inkwell.

2. In poetry, we will have our first book published by Akashic/Black Goat.

3. Two recent grads were accepted into PHd Creative Writing programs at USC and Texas Tech.

4. And I just got accepted to Bread Loaf for 2007.

We are new, but that just makes us hustle harder. :)


__________



May 27, 2007, 5:48 AM

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Congrats, wind! That's very impressive.

Can you tell us how Riverside has impacted you as a writer?


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the wind



May 30, 2007, 1:36 AM

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I'll try and keep it short and simple.
--I learned what a story was (a character developing, desiring, overcoming, deciding through scenes); you'd think this would be a no-duh, but it was important to define for me
--I understand that diction controls voice
--That the world of story comes across through scenes and that scenes must be crucial and link to the next.
--that the writer's job is to keep the reader reading (narrative tension)
--that short stories have to start fast
--that details make a story and dialogue makes a character
--like Anne Lamott says, it really is bird by bird. One word at a time, then one sentence, then one paragraph, one scene and then repeat
--i learned about the short sentence, and the long sentece, the lasting image, the beauty of gesture and facial expressions.
--from the poets, I learned to love words and their sounds, how to use the lyrical line to create image and voice
--good writing can have plot and they are not mutually exclusive. That the fiction writers other main job is to tell a story, before cool language experiments, before dry sardonic wit, before showing how smart, sensitive, funny they are.
A story stars a character in a bind and though it's a simplistic way to start, I often imagine how I would explain my story in one line, like in jacket copy. For example: Will Viet get across town to see Neema while the riots rage on? What happens when the boys want to party in the shi-shi part of town the night before theyleave for college?
I hope that doesn't sound too easy, but it's the stuff on my mind. I've also taken two notebooks worth of notes about smaller details as well. I plan on typing it all up one day and using it to teach workshop one day.
And most of all, I challenge all speakeasy readers to find a program with a faculty as large and diverse (thematically and stylistically, and ethnically) as ours. Just off the top of my head I count 4 poetry professors, 4 fiction profs, and 3 non-fiction profs. (And with cross genre work, actually 7 profs write and teach fiction). Where are you gonna find that many folks to help you out? And these are creative writing profs, not English profs who have to teach lit classes, as we are the only UC school with a creative writing major (which also helps with teaching experience). It's all craft, seminar, workshop, or independent studies.
Hope that was an adequate sampler.


jacarty
Jessie Carty
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May 30, 2007, 2:16 PM

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can't help this ......

i think it is great to brag. i brag on my program all the time but i'd have to say most programs i considered had really great diverse professors who primarily teach creative writing etc. (like the one i attend) so i'd beg to differ on that one :) and besides, nothing wrong w/ teaching comp and creative writing. i find myself inspired by doing different things such as watching a documentary on planet earth or riding a bus. who knows, you may be inspired by someone while you are teaching lit too :) --i'm smiling a lot here--

but go ahead and toot your horn, enjoy your program!

--jessie


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May 30, 2007, 2:46 PM

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Thanks, wind.

It looks like you've been learning / learning to think about some very practical things. This is actually one of my criteria now, as I search for schools. My college texts, such as Robert Olen Butler's From Where You Dream, were just so drenched in abstraction, it really alerted me to the fact that I needed less theory, more craft.


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tenderloner
Geary'n Hyde

Aug 5, 2007, 7:13 PM

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Thanks for the info Wind. I was under the impression that the program was not housed on the main campus in DT Riverside, and that it was more of an MA. I'm from Riverside, so it would've been a good idea to have applied there. I regret the misinformation, I didn't get the right impression from the web site and materials they sent.

Oh well.


the wind



Sep 17, 2007, 4:59 PM

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Recent UC Riverside news:

Ovation Road, our second poetry book by an MFA grad will be published by Plain View Press in 2008.

We've added two amazing writers and scholars, Reza Aslan (www.rezaaslan.com) and Laila Lalami (www.lailalalami.com), to our Department of Creative Writing. He wrote "No god, but God" and she wrote "Hope and Other Dangerous Pursuits." (We now have 11 faculty members who solely teach creative writing, holy Batman, that is a lot)

Professor poet Chris Buckley recently won a Guggenheim award.

Professor Chris Abani (www.chrisabani.com) has an amazing African child-soldier novella out called "Song for Night."

Professor Susan Straight was nominated for an LA Times Book of the Year for her novel "A Million Nightingales" and has a children's book out called "The Friskative Dog" which is so cute it has actually forced me to use the word "cute."


the wind



Nov 19, 2007, 9:55 PM

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More horn tootin'

Susan Straight at UC Riverside just won a Lannan Award which includes a $150,000 prize. The award is for her body of work, including novels, collections, children's books, and essays.

But more than her merits as a writer, I have to say that she is both honest and encouraging as a teacher. Most of all, I respect the hell out of her for writing on her own terms, which includes living out in the Inland Empire, having a family and raising kids, and writing what she wants to write about (race, class, marginalized folks, period pieces). She proves that you don't have to have a trust fund, go to an Ivy, wear all black, live on the east coast, and be cynical to be successful. Cheers to her!


zebulon


Nov 20, 2007, 3:25 AM

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Planet Earth is a vast treasure trove of poems. Haha.


gina.bee


Nov 28, 2007, 4:30 PM

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Hey Wind... and others...

I've been following this thread as I'm applying to only CA schools. I never thought I'd consider it (don't really want to live in SoCal), but I'm thinking I may apply to UC Riverside... Wind... how's the poetry faculty and students-- what's the community like (I get a sense of vibrancy and diversity from what you've posted, but would love to hear more...)

Also, I know you mentioned a little bit about the actual city/community. I get a sense that it's like suburbia-- do you have to drive everywhere? When you leave campus, do you still feel a cohesive sense of a literary community?

Any input would be great!

re: BA in Creative Writing. UC Davis has a BA in English w/ emphasis in CW, so I wouldn't say UCR is the only one in the UC system to have it.


Zash
Zachary Ash

Nov 29, 2007, 2:20 AM

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Anybody know anything about the MA in English/creative writing at UC Davis?


gina.bee


Nov 29, 2007, 2:17 PM

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Yeah-- I'm applying there and went as an undergrad. What specifically do you want to know? I could go on forever about it... It's a great school-- and a great program. I'm really excited about the prospect of going there again.


Zash
Zachary Ash

Nov 29, 2007, 5:01 PM

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Gina.bee,
Thanks for the response. I'm applying to Davis too. I like the town, the school, and what I've read online about the program. Would you say this is one of those 'under the radar' programs, a place that's really good but not yet widely known? And since it's an MA, not an MFA, is the focus split between cw workshops and grad lit courses? Art and scholarship? I wish it were a pure studio program ... But the faculty sounds top-notch.
I decided not to apply to UC Irvine, despite its reputation, because I can't put up with living two more years in So Cal. The atmosphere up north is more my style.
Zash


gina.bee


Nov 29, 2007, 10:53 PM

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Hey Zachary,

I would definitely say it's under the radar. I probably know as much as you do about the current faculty, as I've been away from Davis for about 7 years, but I've heard that it's gotten even better since I left. I majored in English with an emphasis in Creative Writing, so I got a taste of what the workshops would be like. I think that the M.A. at Davis is pretty much the same as an MFA; most MFA programs require a few lit courses and the split seems to be on par with that at Davis. I wouldn't worry too much about the distinction-- you'll get a good studio feel.

Are you applying in Fiction or Poetry? I'm applying in Poetry. I didn't get a sense that UCI was the place for poets-- seems it's good for fiction. I don't really want to migrate to SoCal, but I'm looking into applying to UC Riverside, and definitely SDSU, as well, although Davis is my top choice, and I'm also applying to other schools in NorCal. Do you know much about UCR?


Zash
Zachary Ash

Nov 30, 2007, 3:36 AM

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Hey Gina.bee,

I'm fiction. And as it happens, I graduated from UC Riverside, but it was a few years ago, and my major was History, so I haven't much first-hand knowledge on the MFA program. I've heard it's good, though, and diverse. Growing. In the last ten years or so, the campus has gotten MUCH bigger, and there are now many cultural/intellectual/recreational opportunities, I believe. Downtown Riverside, about five miles from campus, is sorta funky and bohemian, with cafes, museums, bars. Near UCR it's all fast-food, freeways, and motels. To the east is Boxwood Canyon, a nice semi-wilderness preserve. As a whole, the school is rising in stature.


gina.bee


Nov 30, 2007, 11:43 AM

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Thanks, Zash... this is really helpful. How far away from L.A. is it? Let me know if you want more info. about UCD.


Zash
Zachary Ash

Nov 30, 2007, 1:40 PM

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On a good day, it's a two hour drive from Riverside to LA. It's about an hour to Pasadena, which has lots of cool theaters, bookstores, cafes. And I think you can get to both destinations, now, by metro rail, LA's new rapid transit. Yes, we have one. In downtown LA there's even a subway!

My best friend got his PhD from Davis, and I was up there from time to time, so I know the town a bit. I like it. I think it'd be a nice, mellow place to hang-out for two years and write stories.

zash


mradamscott


Dec 7, 2007, 5:53 PM

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I can answer some of your questions on the program at UC Davis since I graduated from the fiction program in 2006. I loved my time there. The group my year was very cohesive and supportive, though I think this may have been more due to the individual personalities than the program itself. That said, the professors are really dedicated to the students. They are quite different in terms of the way they mentor, teach, and read a story. Pam Houston is the big name and despite being all over the US (she was promoting her novel at the time), she always made time for her students. Lynn Freed was my favorite. She's not around as often (only teaches one or two quarters a year), but she's the best reader I've ever had. She definitely has an opinion on what makes a story, so you may butt heads with her, but whatever happens, you'll come out a better writer. Lucy Corin's the third fiction writer and she's pretty experimental. I liked her though. She's young and quirky and will give you a ton of time on your manuscript. On the poetry side are Joe Wenderoth and Joshua Clover, two guys who couldn't be more different in their approach. There's a tendency for students to fall into either camp. Both are great in their own ways though.

On a practical note, the money's pretty good (they fund all students as far as I know) and everybody teaches Creative Writing in their second year. UC Davis also runs the Tomales Bay Workshops and when I was there, all the CW students got to go for free. Keep in mind that the program is an MA which has its advantages and disadvantages. You may have a better chance teaching composition at a community college with the MA since they assume you have a strong lit background, but then again, it's not a terminal degree no matter what anyone tells you. Then again, the MFA students I know are just as unlikely to get a job without some major publications.

As has been mentioned, the atmosphere of the town is totally relaxed. It's an awesome town to travel by bike (you might even consider selling your car), there are great little restaurants, and the weekly farmer's market is a big community event. The PhD students have an ultimate frisbee team, The F-Bombs, and I would recommend everyone join. It was the most fun I had all year. Feel free to ask me about anything else.


Zash
Zachary Ash

Dec 9, 2007, 4:03 AM

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thank you! This inside scoop puts my mind at ease. It's so hard to know what a program is like from afar.
zash

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