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edwriter



May 1, 2007, 6:45 PM

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Hi, everyone. Thought I'd post this here because it's definitely connected with MFA programs in NYC.

As many of you know, The City University of New York (CUNY) is the overall home for a number of excellent graduate writing programs (as previously mentioned on this thread: Hunter College, City College, Brooklyn College, Queens College [not to be confused with Queen's University in Canada or Queens University in Charlotte]). CUNY also has some pretty impressive writers teaching in its undergraduate programs in both the senior and community colleges. (I've learned a lot more about all these programs since I began my [nonacademic] job at CUNY earlier this year.)

On Thursday, May 10, many of these faculty writers will be presenting a "Marathon Reading" at the Graduate Center in Manhattan. This event is free and open to the public. Click here for details and a partial listing of the readers.

Best,
Erika D.


Quiet Americans: Stories
http://www.erikadreifus.com



switchthai


May 8, 2007, 5:32 PM

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Re: [Clench Million] ] New State U. of NY Grad Writing Program [In reply to] Can't Post

here's the perspective of one BROKE student who has just taken Columbia over TNS -

I accepted an offer from TNS - four hours later, I recieved word that I'd been admitted to Columbia off of the waitlist. I agonized over the decision for a few weeks, and even considered not attending grad school this year, at all. Finally, I chose Columbia for the following reasons:

1. Not sure how the "credit hours" compare, but at Columbia, students take 1x workshop and 3x other classes / semester, one of which can be a class almost ANYWHERE in Columbia's world-class university. At TNS, I would only be able to take 1x workshop and 1x literature class, and would be barred from cross-registering in other classes. I believe that writers benefit from exposure to ideas and knowledge outside of the craft of writing, especially when it comes to non-fiction writers like myself.

2. I don't immediately assume that my MFA is going to result in a book deal. It's quite likely that I will be looking for employment not-related to writing after I graduate. Realistically, the name "Columbia" has a value outside of the world of writing. Like it or not, people hear the name and their eyes light up, as if you're some kind of friggin genius just for having gone there. I think this will have a $$$ value post-MFA.

3. I believe that the exposure and networks I build because of Columbia's stature and the intensity of its program will benefit me post-graduation.

4. I know I want to go to school in NYC, because of the supposedly increased publishing contacts, the inspiration i get from being in that vibrant city, and because of increased professional opportunities in other fields (I work in live music, film, and video production. This is flexible, high-paying work, and if i'm lucky, i'll be able to support myself via production while i'm in school.) If I'm going to go to a big-name program in NYC, I'm going to end up in debt. Why go to a less intensive and less presitigious (though obviously strong) program? If I'm going to spend 2 years and go 30k into debt, why not spend 2 years and double that for a program that i'm hoping will benefit me exponentially more?

All of these reasons are arguably insane, I admit. I know that I'll be in debt for a long time, and that I'll be eating nothing but macaroni and cheese for the next two years. Still I am gambling that my own ability to make connections and create opportunities for myself, along with the value of a columbia degree bring good results both within the world of writing and without. If I am wrong, I'll be be 26 when I graduate and have my whole life to pay down the debt.

Am I scared? Hell yes. Am I excited? Damn straight. Wish me luck.


(This post was edited by akivaf on May 9, 2007, 1:02 PM)


jacarty
Jessie Carty
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May 9, 2007, 12:51 PM

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guy or girl. i love someone w/ big cahones (spelling) :)

good luck! I wish i had such a good thought process when I was your age. When I was 23 and graduating from college, I was freaked about a small amount of debt and took the first job i got offered (here I sit 9 years later)

Have a great time!


http://jessiecarty.com


rooblue


May 9, 2007, 2:22 PM

Post #54 of 119 (5746 views)
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cojones.
If you're going to use it, please spell it with respect.


Clench Million
Charles

May 9, 2007, 2:56 PM

Post #55 of 119 (5738 views)
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Congrats akivaf. Both Columbia and TNS are excellent programs and I don't think you'd make a mistake going to either.

I think that most of your reasons are sound. Being allowed to take classes in any department at one of the best universities in the country is a big perk for Columbia students. As a slight correction, I'm pretty sure you can take more than one class anywhere in the university if you want. There is a certain minimum number of writing division classes you must take, but it isn't 2 per semester per se and anyway you can take up to 18 credits (1 workshop and 4 classes) without any extra charges.

The statue of Columbia and the NYC location are definitely big perks with tangible benefits. Many magazines and agencies look to Columbia for interns and such. I personally know a half dozen first years who have interned at the New Yorker and many who interned at other great places.

Anyway, please feel free to PM if you have any questions about Columbia, especially about workshop professors, classes to take, etc. I talked to a few second years going into the program and it definitely helped me to take the best classes my first semester.


jacarty
Jessie Carty
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May 10, 2007, 8:54 AM

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cojones.
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thanks :)
further showing why i don't have them.


http://jessiecarty.com


renapoo


May 10, 2007, 11:55 AM

Post #57 of 119 (5675 views)
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Just fyi, when I met with Deborah Landau (the NYU program´s director), I asked her whether students ever take more than 2 classes a semester. She seemed surprised and said that while it´s possible, people rarely do it because there isn´t really time. Nor do I think it´s common for students at NYU to have full-time jobs while they´re in the program.


edwriter



May 14, 2007, 8:22 PM

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Hi, again:

This is a follow-up I'm posting here for anyone interested in the MFA programs within the schools of The City University of New York. CUNY's Office of Academic Affairs has recently launched a Web page that collects systemwide information (including links to each of the CUNY MFA programs). I can't claim any credit for the technical achievement, but I have helped assemble the content.

You can see the site (please bear in mind that it is still a work-in-progress) by clicking here.

Best,
Erika D.


Quiet Americans: Stories
http://www.erikadreifus.com



edwriter



Oct 19, 2007, 12:53 PM

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Just a quick update:

Hunter College's MFA program just received a nice write-up in the Village Voice.

And the Queens College MFA director is interviewed about that program in the new Poets & Writers.


Best,
Erika D.


Quiet Americans: Stories
http://www.erikadreifus.com



mrshankly


Nov 1, 2007, 1:54 PM

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If anybody's curious about NYU's program, there's a public event today (7 pm) at the Writers House at 58 W. 10th. It's a conversation, presumably about craft, between program alums A.M. Homes and Darin Strauss. Plenty of current and past students should be in attendance, I would imagine...

http://cwp.fas.nyu.edu/...ngSeriesCalendar.pdf


MissEsquire



Nov 21, 2007, 11:23 AM

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For those of you who attend or have applied to Brooklyn, when exactly did you apply for funding? Before you were accepted? After?


edwriter



Jan 8, 2008, 7:11 PM

Post #62 of 119 (5083 views)
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And still another update about a CUNY MFA program: You can hear the Queens College program director, poet Nicole Cooley, discuss the program in this podcast.

Best,
Erika D.


Quiet Americans: Stories
http://www.erikadreifus.com



sarah_sophia


Jan 11, 2008, 11:51 AM

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hey there,

can any one offer and feedback/opinions about the program at brooklyn? there are a couple of writers i love who have worked and taught there in the past, but then i looked at the the application fee - $125 - and now i'm not so sure. i'm not rich, and i need some convincing. there deadline is feb 1st so i should make up my mind soon, or take them off my list and find someone else.

so can anyone sell me this idea?


MissEsquire



Jan 11, 2008, 12:09 PM

Post #64 of 119 (4953 views)
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Does anyone know about the funding thing? Anyone? The procedures at CUNY are very different from any other school I've applied to.


edwriter



Jan 11, 2008, 12:14 PM

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Well, I don't know about "selling" you on the idea. In any case, I don't have direct experience with the program. I work at CUNY in an administrative capacity (and not on the BC campus).

But if you want to know more about the program, I'd suggest that you read the MFA material in last summer's Atlantic fiction issue (if you haven't read it already), which included some references to it. I'm frankly stunned by the application fee. It's not at all in keeping with the general affordability of CUNY programs (should you actually attend the program, you'd likely find it much more affordable, tuition-wise, than many programs of similar reputation; living in NYC is another matter, of course). If you find the application fee unmanageable perhaps you should let the program know and see if they have any suggestions.

That's my (very) unofficial advice.

Good luck.

Best,
Erika D.


Quiet Americans: Stories
http://www.erikadreifus.com



edwriter



Jan 11, 2008, 12:18 PM

Post #66 of 119 (4949 views)
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Are you talking about CUNY or (as indicated in the subject line) SUNY? Have you checked with the program(s) for the most accurate/up-to-date information?

Best,
Erika D.


Quiet Americans: Stories
http://www.erikadreifus.com



MissEsquire



Jan 11, 2008, 12:50 PM

Post #67 of 119 (4942 views)
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Right. Confusing. I meant CUNY (Brooklyn). They state on their website that you should apply for funding after applying to the school, but does that mean before you are accepted, or after an acceptance?


sarah_sophia


Jan 11, 2008, 1:06 PM

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that's reassuring about the more affordable tuition, and relieves my anxieties, a little.

thanks!


edwriter



Jan 11, 2008, 1:10 PM

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Truthfully, I don't know. If I were you, I'd contact the program directly to find out.

Good luck!

Best,
Erika D.


Quiet Americans: Stories
http://www.erikadreifus.com



edwriter



Jan 24, 2008, 7:18 PM

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Hello, everyone:

Two new items concerning the writing programs of The City University of New York:

1) If you're planning to attend the AWP conference at month's end, you can find a streamlined schedule of CUNY-affiliated AWP events here.

2) And whether you're going to AWP or not, you may want to check out this podcast of last spring's "marathon" faculty reading.

Enjoy!

Best,
Erika D.


Quiet Americans: Stories
http://www.erikadreifus.com



vmalone
Vanessa
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Feb 9, 2008, 9:10 PM

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Did anyone apply to Hunter (CUNY)?? I'm also confused about the financial aid question. if anyone finds out if we are supposed to apply before we are accepted, I'd love to hear.


gourmandette


Mar 11, 2008, 4:10 PM

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That's absolute misinformation. My partner was working in the telecom industry during his MFA at NYU, and he had to fly to Dallas three days a week. He finished the program with no problem.

If you HAVE to work -- which many of us do -- while you do an MFA, you can work it out in most cases. Columbia seems to be the one exception in the city, but I'm still going to talk to them to see if I can work it out. It depends on money though, as well.


liamolly


Mar 26, 2008, 10:04 AM

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Has anyone actually received a rejection from Brooklyn (fiction)? Waiting kills. :(


jerseycavalier


Mar 26, 2008, 10:25 AM

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No, and what's worse is that there is no telephone contact for the MFA admissions. The English department people have no information other than it's all in the process of going out. I e-mailed Mark Patkowski yesterday, but have received no word about anything. I know their first round already went out a month ago, so I have to assume nothing means you're still in the running or on an unofficial waitlist kind of thing.


liamolly


Mar 26, 2008, 10:37 AM

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See, yeah, I assumed no news was better and started to have all this crazy kind of hope... but then when no rejections were popping up I got to thinking that maybe all the good news has gone out, just not the bad. Thanks for the info though!

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