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grimson
Justin Bryant
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Jun 10, 2005, 8:45 PM

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I recall a couple of people saying they were accepted. I'm going. If you are too, let's talk.


(This post was edited by motet on Dec 4, 2009, 3:15 PM)


bighark


Jun 11, 2005, 12:26 PM

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Did NYU offer any aid to speak of?

I hear they're more likely to award aid than the other NY schools.


grimson
Justin Bryant
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Jun 14, 2005, 12:20 AM

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Partial funding first year with the option of participating in any of several outreach programs (teaching workshops in NY hospitals, prisons, and schools) that all offer stipends. I still have to fully explore those options. Second year funding much better, with numerous TA opportunities.


morehouse


Jul 9, 2005, 2:44 PM

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What is your genre focus?


grimson
Justin Bryant
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Jul 9, 2005, 3:04 PM

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Fiction.


toothy


Mar 18, 2006, 1:19 PM

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Does anyone know how many people NYU accepts every year?


Aubrie


Mar 19, 2006, 11:02 AM

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Hey Toothy - at the Open House they stated that they get about 1,000 applicants and accept about 30. I'm not sure how that's broken down into fiction and poetry. I think it might be one of the (if not THE) most competitive school out there for MFA if only for how many people apply.


gussy

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Mar 21, 2006, 5:57 PM

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Hi all,

Since NYU and UC Irvine, among a few others, are famous for sending notifications quite late in the season, I thought I might open up this thread for those of us waiting to hear from NYU (and later we can do the same with Irvine).

For whatever it's worth, I called NYU and was told that notifications were sent last Friday. They said they have a strict policy against disclosing information over the telephone or the e-mail -- regular mail only. But I seem to recall someone saying they were called by NYU people? If anyone can clarify this, I'd appreciate it.

So, the NYU ball is rolling... Comments? Tips? Questions?


Aubrie


Mar 21, 2006, 6:01 PM

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Hey Gussy -
NYU made their acceptances last week by phone.
There is certain poster here (ahem) who has not come forward to get her due congrats yet, but I know they called her.
So I suppose the rest of us can either wait for a waitlist hope (yes, please) or a rejection letter.
Oh well.
There's always next year.


gussy

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Mar 21, 2006, 7:47 PM

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Thanks for the update, Aubrie! And congrats to the Mysterious NYU Acceptee, whoever (s)he is!

OK, so this will be the who-got-waitlisted-at-NYU thread. [With mortuary enthusiasm] Yay.

(Why would the NYU people give me all that BS about “we do regular-mail notifications only”? Couldn’t they have said “We’ve notified our acceptees by phone already?” Am I right in feeling slightly annoyed, or is this purely rejection-funk?


Lglabor


Mar 22, 2006, 11:21 AM

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I'm not sure it's time for NYU applicants to give up all hope. I work at NYU, in a completely different department but same school (Graduate School of Arts and Sciences), and we've been receiving repeated warnings from the director of admissions NOT to give out any information over the phone. The official procedure is to send the department's decisions to the central admissions office, and then admissions sends out the letters, accept and reject, supposedly all at the same time. Maybe not everyone in every department abides by this strictly--I do and don't, that is, when someone calls asking the status of their submission, if the admissions process is close to finished and that person has been accepted, I say something coy like 'I'm not supposed to tell you, you have to wait for the letter from admissions, but relax, you have nothing to worry about'--but still my guess is that, even if someone reports having been informed on the phone, the game isn't entirely over for everyone else who hasn't heard yet.

I applied to NYU's MFA program a couple years ago, and got my rejection in the mail on March 23. So all of y'all should hear any day now. Please accept good luck wishes from someone who's too poor to go anywhere else than the school where she's employed and would have gotten free tuition.


gussy

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Mar 22, 2006, 11:58 AM

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Lglabor,

Thanks for the info about NYU ! We'll see what McFate has decided on that front...

And as for "being too poor..." for this or that, maybe this helps: what would you rather be: head of a mouse, or tail of a lion? (Old saying in Spanish :)). I mean, I'd rather be poor and live in a city like NYC, than rich and live in the wilderness [plug in your least favorite region of the world].

Of course, the best thing would be to be rich and live in NYC :)


emtothejay


Mar 24, 2006, 1:05 PM

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hello,
i'm not the person Aubrie is talking about (i think), but i got into NYU's fiction program. i heard from them late last week. they offered me half tuition for the first year and a small stipend (couple grand) for the fall. i was obviously totally psyched to hear from them!

i am also considering brooklyn college, whose program i just adore and whose tuition for the whole year is less than even fees for NYU. does anyone have any input on this? i am strongly leaning toward brooklyn, where i would get to work with susan choi and michael cunningham.


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Hey Gussy -
NYU made their acceptances last week by phone.
There is certain poster here (ahem) who has not come forward to get her due congrats yet, but I know they called her.
So I suppose the rest of us can either wait for a waitlist hope (yes, please) or a rejection letter.
Oh well.
There's always next year.



Kcchen


Mar 25, 2006, 12:49 PM

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Hi -- congratulations! How did you hear from NYU? phone, email, letter? did they call you or did you call them? can you tell im going nuts waiting? Plus I live in california, so it seems like everything takes an extra week to get here!


emtothejay


Mar 25, 2006, 1:54 PM

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hey, thanks! they called me, actually, about a week ago (last thursday). then i got some stuff in the mail this week. perhaps you are on the waitlist...i bet a lot of people who got in may not end up being able to afford it (i.e., like me).

good luck! i'm still waiting to hear from UVA and i know how the waiting game sucks.


Kcchen


Mar 25, 2006, 2:04 PM

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good to know.... the mail hasn't arrived yet today so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. good luck with UVA!


maoseley


Mar 25, 2006, 5:36 PM

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anyone deciding between sarah lawrence and the new school for nonfiction? any thoughts about those two in comparison with nyu and columbia? (haven't heard from either of them, guessing i didn't get in but...)


Kcchen


Mar 25, 2006, 9:34 PM

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got my rejection from NYU today. has anyone gotten rejected from Columbia yet? I expect that's coming along soon...


Aubrie


Mar 26, 2006, 5:03 PM

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i got my ding too! sittin' pretty waiting for the final rejection - Columbia.
i am already re-writing my SOP.
onward!


Kcchen


Mar 26, 2006, 11:18 PM

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rejections from columbia??? has anyone gotten one? please don't let me get my hopes up...

also what's the deal with BU? I read somewhere that they were calling ppl soon. again, anyone have any info?


Aubrie


Mar 27, 2006, 8:00 AM

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I don't think Columbia rejections have gone out yet. But I do think they've contacted everyone they want.


Clench Million
Charles

Mar 27, 2006, 1:05 PM

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They've contacted all the acceptances I"m sure (I got mine march 1st), but I haven't heard of anyone on a waitlist yet. And with a program of Columbia's size and cost, I'm sure people get in off the wait-list.


kodi


Mar 28, 2006, 12:18 PM

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Does anyone know about NYU's funding situation? I was waitlisted, but I'm guessing the list is huge, and I don't think I can afford it even if they offered me a spot. Anyone have specifics? The info on their website is vague.


Aubrie


Mar 28, 2006, 12:27 PM

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1. Brooklynpoet - thanks for all the info! I've been perusing their website lookin' for a little extra info...

2. I don't think NYU's funding is stellar. At their open house it seemed that they had precious few hefty fellowships, and then after that I believe they're about a couple grand each. But there is an opportunity to teach in your second year. And I believe that the program is set up to accomodate people working full time, evening classes, etc.


kodi


Mar 28, 2006, 2:46 PM

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2. I don't think NYU's funding is stellar. At their open house it seemed that they had precious few hefty fellowships, and then after that I believe they're about a couple grand each. But there is an opportunity to teach in your second year. And I believe that the program is set up to accomodate people working full time, evening classes, etc.


Thanks, Aubrie. Just to clarify: do the minor fellowships include tuition? Or you just get $2,000 and you're on your own? I contacted the director, but she hasn't gotten back to me yet.


Clench Million
Charles

Mar 28, 2006, 3:00 PM

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No, they defintily don't include tuition. If NYU gave every single student free tuition plus extra money, that would be pretty spectacular funding.


emtothejay


Mar 28, 2006, 3:16 PM

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re: NYU funding --

the stipend i got is just for the fall, two thousand dollars. additionally, they are paying for half my tuition, both years. by my calculations that equals between sixteen and seventeen grand (total, counting both years). however, that means i'd also be PAYING between sixteen and seventeen grand, plus considerable fees (around three or four grand).

they've already given away the big honking NYTimes fellowship (one for poetry, one for fiction), so i guess we're all out of luck there (except for you lucky two out there). but there are teaching opportunities and other smaller teaching fellowships (community based) that they give away, for around four grand or less.

my understanding is that 65-85% of students get half to full funding. but that's according to their own materials, so, who knows.


trumped


Mar 28, 2006, 8:00 PM

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I got a letter that I've been placed on NYU's waitlist. Is it bad form to call and ask what number I am? And do they really clear their waitlist through August? That seems like a long time to put your life on hold.

I haven't heard anything from Columbia but I assume it's either waitlist or rejection at this point.

The other schools I applied to were low res:
Bennington - accepted
Goddard - accepted
Lesley - accepted
Warren Wilson - haven't heard
Antioch - haven't heard although I think others have so probably not good news.


betp


Mar 28, 2006, 10:30 PM

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No-- I don't think that's bad form at all. (Only b/c today I called a school and asked them where I was on the waitlist-- they were totally fine with it and actually even gave me a date when I'd know for sure.)


kodi


Mar 29, 2006, 9:59 AM

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re: NYU funding --

Thanks, em, for clarifying. And congrats on the acceptance!

For my fellow NYU waitlisters--
I just called and spoke with a secretary since the director isn't in today. She said they would not disclose my position on the (fiction) waitlist, citing department policy. She "didn't know" how many people are on the list. Funding is a possibility, but not a guarantee, if you're accepted from the waitlist.


mushaboom


Apr 21, 2006, 12:01 AM

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Did anyone else get a letter inviting them to apply to the NYU Humanities and Social Thought master's program?

What?


bighark


Apr 21, 2006, 12:26 AM

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You're not talking about the Draper program, are you?

I've seen a lot of really angry students posting about the Draper consolation prize from NYU over the past few days. It seems that the Draper MA is a bit of a cash cow for the school--if you don't make it into the program you applied to, you get an "invitation" to the program.


wonder01
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Apr 21, 2006, 2:52 PM

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You're not talking about the Draper program, are you?

I've seen a lot of really angry students posting about the Draper consolation prize from NYU over the past few days. It seems that the Draper MA is a bit of a cash cow for the school--if you don't make it into the program you applied to, you get an "invitation" to the program.


I was wondering about the Draper program. I applied to NYU Fiction and didn't get in. Besides the NYU web site, where can I find information about the program, the students, etc?


Kcchen


Apr 27, 2006, 2:00 PM

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Yeah I got an "invitation" to that too. Where have you read these angry postings? It does sound like a scam, though interesting nonetheless....


bighark


Apr 27, 2006, 2:28 PM

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I saw those comments at places like the applyingtograd LJ community or www.thegradcafe.com.

Anyway, Draper is not a scam--it's just slimy. The M.A. you get will be legit.


renapoo


Mar 23, 2007, 5:40 PM

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I'm wondering what people who, like me, got into NYU but didn't get full funding, are going to do about it? As far as I can tell, the only way to get tuition remission is to a). get a T.A. position with the expository writing program, or b). work full time for the University. The deadline for the T.A.ship has passed (I got an extension and sent my app in earlier this week, but given that I had 4 days to finish it I doubt it was any good), so that leaves a full time job. Not exactly the MFA experience I had in mind, but I really don't want to have to pay tuition on top of paying for rent, food, etc.

Any thoughts? General wisdoms? Echoes of my doubts and concerns?

Also, is anybody going to the class visit next week? I signed up but I don't want to be the only person there.


TSizzle


Mar 23, 2007, 6:39 PM

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Hey renapoo,

Yeah, I got accepted into NYU as well. I only have half funding, so I need to consider my options as well. Is it true that if you work full time at NYU they waive your tuition? I didn't know that TA positions were available or anything like that. My fault, I guess, for not being diligent about it. Good luck with your application though! I thought they were available for second year students. At this point, it looks like Financial Aid and good old Sallie Mae for the first year, at least. I think I want to work at only a part time job at most, just to survive off of, so I can immerse myself into the program as best as I can. I'm just thankful (I mean, really, really, REALLY thankful) that I was accepted into the program. A month ago I was preparing myself to not get accepted anywhere!

I'm not going to the open house. I'm all the way on the west coast and won't be able to get off work in time. But let me know how it turns out and what you think of the program. Have you already committed to NYU? What are your plans for housing? On campus or off? Sorry for so many questions, it's just nice to find someone in the same situation as I am.

By the way, are you poetry or fiction? I'm fiction. I think there are some other lurkers out there who are strongly considering NYU. If anyone is out there, let's open up this thread again and start discussing!

TSizzle


renapoo


Mar 23, 2007, 8:19 PM

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I'm fiction too. I guess I'd say I'm strongly considering NYU, but also strongly considering not going. I'd rather apply to schools again next year than have to pay out the wazoo for NYU.

In answer to your question, the T.A. ship that waives tuition is only for the Expository Writing Program. There are creative writing T.A. positions that don't waive tuition and are offered in the second year. And yeah, full-time NYU employees get tuition waived in addition to their salary.

I'll definitely report back after the class visit (sitting in on a craft class I think).


Lglabor


Mar 25, 2007, 3:31 PM

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Regarding tuition remission for full-time NYU employees, keep in mind that all benefits for new employees, including tuition benefits, kick in only after you've completed your four-month probation. If you're seriously considering working at NYU, you should probably also try to check out whether they're actually hiring right now, because there's been a supposed hiring freeze (which is never completely real, but still) off and on for the last few years.


joonbug


Mar 25, 2007, 7:23 PM

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I have the same doubts and concerns. I've noticed some literary outreach opportunities that can help with tuition, but only one or two of them provide full tuition waivers. I was looking into becoming an RA for free housing, but that application deadline passed in December. I'll still contact them, just in case.

I was admitted to U of Oregon, full tuition and teaching stipend, and I'm getting half tuition from NYU with the chance to teach in my second year. I don't know about shelling out $8,000.00 for tuition plus NYC rent when I have the option to be fully funded.

I'd love to attend NYU and live in the city, but is it worth it?


TSizzle


Mar 25, 2007, 11:30 PM

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Yeah, I'm in kind of the same position myself. I just got my graduate package from NYU and while the half tuition is nice, the housing itself seems a little difficult. On top of that, I have a full tuition waiver from Arizona with a small scholarship on the side, which could definitely help with the whole housing situation. Oh, the options!

I would definitely choose NYC over Tucson, but that's just me. I've always dreamed of being a NYC grad student, being from the tiny place I am now. The whole debt thing bugs me, but I always made a promise to myself to never let that get in the way of my dreams. Of course, this was back during the application process, not when faced with actual debt. Err. Anyway, good to see that there are others out there pondering the same thing.

Congrats joonbug! Are you poetry or fiction?


clbooyah


Mar 26, 2007, 3:06 PM

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It sounds like I'm in the same boat as many of you. I'm in at NYU for fiction, very tempted to accept, but weary of expenses in NY and what kind of strain that may put on the whole experience. I hear both great and negative things about the program, although it seems hard to separate these opinions from the opinions of the city itself. What are your impressions of the actual program? I wish I could visit but I'm on the west coast as well and have work obligations.

UMass is the other program in my mental tug-of-war, and the possibility of a tuition waive/teaching stipend is still alive. It's so difficult to prioritize.

It does seem that NYU has some interesting options for funding, but I get the impression that you have to be aggressive and proactive for these opportunities.

Good luck to all who are still deciding. It's helpful to know I'm not alone in the chaos of decision.


joonbug


Mar 27, 2007, 12:17 AM

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I'm in for poetry. I'm excited about NYU's spectacular permanent faculty, but I have no idea how much access students have to the faculty. Does anyone have the inside scoop on that? Also, in terms of getting published or working on a literary publication, it seems that being at NYU (or in New York) gives me an advantage over attending U of Oregon.

I'd prefer to earn an MFA without the stress of a full time job, but I suppose that's how writing in the real world is going to be... but Oregon's been so damn friendly and welcoming...

I'm confused. My pro/con list is making me cross-eyed.


TSizzle


Mar 27, 2007, 7:52 PM

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I know, I know! I tried making a list of pros and cons, and I ended scrapping the whole thing. It's a tough choice when a great school (though not THE school of choice) is wooing you with a tuition waver, while the school of choice is playing it cool and calm, confident that you'll eventually come around.

I tried looking up housing options at NYU, and while they seem pretty helpful and earnest, the situtation looks a little difficult. But still, I so want to be a NYC grad student.

The good part is, from the looks of things us NYU acceptancees have options. The bad part is, well, we have options.

Has anyone other than me looked up housing possibilties at NYU, either on campus or off? That is one of a few roadblocks ahead for me before I commit to NYU, or not. Well, that and financial aid.

Thanks everyone!


Bottom Shelf


Apr 1, 2007, 2:46 AM

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I don't have many positive feelings towards NYU, as I went there undergrad for Psychology and Comparative Lit, and in neither major did I get much personal attention from advisors or faculty. In some cases, my experiences were horrendous, a sentiment shared by many undergrads in both fields.

The most impressive faculty members generally seem not-so-accessible. This may be different for the MFA programs, and even if the hotshots aren't accessible, there's always room for connections to be made through faculty. You'll be in one of the world's centers for publishing, with a bevy of agents, writers, professors who will be willing to work with you to develop your craft outside of the classroom.

I run a writer's group for poets now. I'm sure I'm not the only one. But to find these things, you have to seek them out. Nobody in this city will find you unless you make a considerable effort to be found.

I grew up in Queens, Long Island and Puerto Rico. I've lived in the city for 7 consecutive years now. My job has me traveling around Queens and the Bronx. I have a good grasp of what the city can offer, and I haven't seen half of it. There will always be something to keep you busy. It's part of the charm and at times, it can be oppressive, this tyranny of choice. But I love it here, though I am going to Tucson (UofA) in 2007 for poetry; I will miss New York. I know I will. But I also know a change, after 7 years, is in order.

It's an excellent place to live for two years. There is a magic to it. NYU might not provide the most intimate setting (the undergrad, grad population is just huge) but the city itself is worth coming for, regardless of the reason.

A reason to come is enough. Length of stay is a matter of preference. My cousin, from Nashville, comes for two weeks at a time to shop. That's it. Evaluate why you want to come here, what you think the so-called capital of the world can offer you. I've never had to move TO the city, though I noticed many people come for the city's mystique and spend years (decades) coming to terms with what life is actually like here.

As for housing, I highly suggest living in Queens. It's cheaper than Brooklyn or Manhattan. The commute is not as bad as people will have you think. One major downside: Your friends will scoff at the borough and might not want to visit you as much, but if you're in Astoria / Long Island City, you'll have mates (and you'll meet them at the Bohemian Beer Garden, other spots in the area) who share this experience. They will become your buddies. However, many of your friends might live in Brooklyn, so going out will mean up to an hour's commute (or more) to their house party or preferred bar / nightclub.

The city has everything, but after a while, you might begin to wonder, "Do I really need everything?" I found the answer to be No, which is why I'm looking forward to Tucson...


TSizzle


Apr 2, 2007, 2:42 AM

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Thanks Bottom Shelf!

That was some awesome insights to the city. Yeah, after spending my whole life in this city, I want to move, and NYC has always been a lofty dream of mine, until now. Anyway, congratulations on going to Arizona. It's a great program and yes, the change of pace will be welcome.


joonbug


Apr 3, 2007, 12:49 AM

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I talked to a current NYU MFA poetry student over the weekend, and she loves the program. First off, the professors may not be buddy-buddy with students, but all anyone needs to do is sign up for office hours. She said that each session during office hours is a 20 minute one-on-one conference.

She had similar funding as most of us, but she was able to secure an assistantship that pays for full tuition and even offers a living stipend, which involves working a campus job about 20 hours a week. Her message was, Be Persistent. In the packet of materials sent by the grad school is a five-page insert about funding graduate education. She used that info to secure her assistantship.

It appears that, in order to succeed at NYU (in terms of funding), you have to go out and get it. If I choose NYU, it is only because I am convinced that nothing will keep me from getting that money.

As for housing, she recommended living off campus in Brooklyn. The packet of info has a brochure for Off Campus Housing that seems useful.


TSizzle


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Wow. Glad to hear that funding is available. Was she a second year or first year? I was looking through the package and was considering applying for an assistantship, but figure that it is way past the deadline. I'll look again. Thanks for the insight!


Lily112


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Wow. I'm so glad to read all of your posts. I am on the waitlist at NYU, and I guess I didn't know all of this stuff about funding, as my advisor/mentor went there, and as he did a TAship said he ended up only paying about $4000 out of pocket for the whole degree.

As for living the writer's life in New York. It is a very romantic idea, I agree. It also makes for juggling a lot of conflicting claims on your time. I've been living in Manhattan for a long while now, and between working to pay rent (which even in my rent stabilized apartment is exorbitant and costs almost half of my monthly, relatively well-paying income), seeing my friends and family, going to all those great cultural things, and trying to exercise, it's really hard to find enough time to write. That being said, unless I get off the waitlist, I am moving to Boston for school next year, and the idea of leaving New York just about gives me hives.

Good luck to all of you. Hopefully I'll meet some of you in workshop next fall!


rebeccavl


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Anyone seriously considering attending NYU this fall? Unless something pretty miraculous happens with me and UVA, I think I'll be at NYU for poetry. I'd love to chat.


Chess


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I was waitlisted for NYU (fiction) and I'm dying to go. Know of anyone planning on turning down his/her spot?


ericweinstein
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Nov 12, 2009, 12:01 PM

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I'd like to reanimate this thread for anyone applying to NYU this fall for the fall 2010 term. I'm applying for poetry.


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Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


annimari


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I plan to apply for fiction. Currently working on my writing sample and gathering as much information as I can about the funding.


ericweinstein
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I went to the GSAS open house a couple of weeks ago and spoke with some of the MFA reps there (all graduates of the NYU MFA program), and they explained some of the funding opportunities (community outreach programs, teaching, &c). I got the impression that most (if not all) MFA students get at least half their tuition paid for, and those who really go after additional funding opportunities can generally figure out a way to get fully funded. I'll be at the MFA open house tonight as well, so I'll try to get more specifics and let you know what I find out.


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


Forum Apps


Nov 16, 2009, 11:14 AM

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It seemed like their idea of fully funded (which was hard to obtain, anyway there from what I've heard) is full tuition paid. This isn't fully funded. It is expensive to live in NY.


annimari


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NY is the most expensive city to live for sure. What about MA in creative writing, anybody applying for that?


WanderingTree


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Abramson breaks it down on the MFA blog. Almost everybody gets at least some of their tuition covered (a small handful get it all covered). There are also quite a few fellowships that provide stipends ranging from a few thousand to 20k (which is still really cutting it in NY). If people have teaching experience, an MA and/or some kind of proven track record in essay writing, there is also the option to teach in the expository writing program which covers tuition and provides a 20k or so stipend for both years (this last one is a completely different application process as it is not associated with the writing program)

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Nov 16, 2009, 2:20 PM

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Well, I guess if you have an MA or wonderful grades and teaching experience it would totally be worth applying. If not, I'd be careful and probably throw my application fee somewhere else. Unless someone is dead set on the school--but, there are lots of schools with wonderful faculty and good funding.


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Nov 16, 2009, 4:09 PM

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What is the application process for applying to teach in the expository writing program? Do you have a link?

Thank you.


ericweinstein
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Nov 16, 2009, 6:42 PM

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They mentioned at the open house tonight that the EWP won't be available for MFA students anymore.

What WanderingTree said is pretty much correctif you're lucky and get a merit-based fellowship, they tell you that during the acceptance call. If not, you can apply for the various teaching/community outreach fellowships available, but there's no guarantee you'll get one and you can only apply after you accept NYU's offer (meaning you're gambling a little bit by accepting if your attendance hinges on aid beyond the 50% that everyone gets). If you get no aid above and beyond the 50% tuition remission, you'll end up paying around $20,800 ($1,300 per credit x 32 credits to graduate / 2), not including food/housing/&c, which is pretty steep.

You do have the option of working part- or full-time during your MFA studies, however, so long as both your employer and NYU are okay with it.


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


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HarveyK


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Years ago I applied for a position at the NYU EWP after getting notified that I had got in the MFA program--I had an MA and some prior teaching experience. It was a total waste of my time. I had to prepare for a phone interview with the coordinator or director of the EWP. There was a sample student essay I had to critique, and there were a lot of questions thrown at me over the phone. It was like a full time job interview, and I wasn't prepared for that. Overall, it was a very unpleasant experience. I had to compete with Ph.D. candidates at NYU. I turned down NYU and went to a fully-funded program. There's no reason to go to NYU if you have to pay more than $20K or even $10K every year. If you have to stay in NY, apply to Brooklyn, Hunter or City College.


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This is bizarre. I was there as well.

This may have nothing to do with the program, but many of the people in attendance had clearly not researched MFA programs whatsoever and repeatedly asked questions that not only were on the website, but were answered in the FAQ sheet they passed out.

Their ignorance was arresting. It made the 1-2% acceptance rate of some of these top programs slightly less nausea-inducing.


"Every spectator is a coward or a traitor."


ericweinstein
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Nov 18, 2009, 9:37 AM

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I KNOW. Remember that woman who wouldn't let go of the GRE issue? Or asked "when do we find out about application decisions" literally two seconds after someone else did?

Also, from what I could gather from the handouts, the odds of getting into the NYU MFA are somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 - 7%, possibly higher if they have a fair number turn down their offers due to lack of funding.


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


HarveyK


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Some say that MFA applicants are the dumbest people who can't even do basic math, although I won't go that far.


ericweinstein
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To be fair, there were several intelligent and well thought-out questions. I was just surprised at the number of questions that could be answered by 1.) thinking before asking, or 2.) reading the handouts.


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


Zuleika Dobson


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Ha, the NYU rep didn't skip a beat when she asked about decision notifications. I was impressed.

My favorite was the girl who wanted to reapply without resubmitting anything except a form, and then announced, "I'm so depressed!" after the NYU rep told her no. If you were one of the people that stayed after, you also would have had to deal with a woman who unleashed a laundry list of personal fears and anxieties, running the gamut from financial aid to international status to GREs.

I mean, thank god. 5-7% of that mess really doesn't sound so bad.


"Every spectator is a coward or a traitor."


ericweinstein
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Nov 18, 2009, 11:41 AM

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I just don't understand why you'd show up to something like this having done next to no research. Anyone who's spent an hour on Google would know the answers to the overwhelming majority of the questions that were asked.

All I can think of is that they either wanted independent confirmation that what they'd read is true, or that they're just trying to ask something so as to be memorable to these folks when it's time for their applications to be reviewed.


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


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WanderingTree


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I think this goes to show that MFAs attract people that have no business whatsoever going to graduate school (and probably shouldn't have been admitted to their undergraduate school either). These are the people that blindly send their stories to Knopf (unagented) with unicorn stickers and a note from their mother. As such, the acceptance rates are probably more misleading than other graduate programs where people are usually more qualified in the first place. I bet the girl that said she was depressed had a Twilight tattoo ; - )

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 Don't be so harsh on people--there are lots of students going to small colleges.

Many of these colleges have wonderful local-type writers teaching at them.

Their students want to go to MFA programs, too.

It _is_ a shame that they don't do more research.


WanderingTree


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I didn't say anything about small colleges. I also didn't comment on the academic abilities or inclinations of students in general. In fact, most small colleges provide more research, publishing and presentation opportunities to undergrads than large research universities (which are often grad oriented). I'm not being harsh and I apologize if that's the way it came off. I'm merely stating my opinion that a preponderance of applicants (and surprisingly current students) are still ill-informed (despite multiple blogs, program websites, books) and that this may reflect on their motivations to get the degree, their performance of a student overall, their happiness in a program, and the fact that many people quit writing seriously after the MFA. There's no excuse for not being informed. Yes, an MFA is by and large an art degree, but it is still tied to academia and with that comes certain expectations and requirements.

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Je suis d'accord. I'm always amazed at the lack of quality of a lot of the novels (and even queries) that get sent to agents and publishing houses. Most of them are unreadable. And I don't mean Joyce unreadable.

I'm sure that there's a good amount of overlap amongst this pool and the MFA applicant pool.


"Every spectator is a coward or a traitor."


Zuleika Dobson


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Nov 18, 2009, 3:11 PM

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Also, Forum Apps, many of the questions were simply stemming from lack of research, but a lot of them were due to lack of common sense.

Just saying.


"Every spectator is a coward or a traitor."


HarveyK


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Well, you'll be really amazed at the "lack of quality" of your peer's writing in a MFA workshop. Most of it is just a load of crap, and you'll have to read and critique it every week. I can't imagine someone paying $20K or more just to do that. You'll often shake your head, asking yourself how the fuck I ended up here--I mean, if you get in somewhere.


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ericweinstein
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And there's really no excuse for not having done the research, since you had to get the RSVP information for the open house from the NYU MFA website!


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


Forum Apps


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That wasn't directed directly at you. Sorry if you took it that way. It was more of a general comment.

I just think that (even among those who are online and have looked at the research and the like) a lack of knowledge about the nature of MFA programs is to be expected. That is, unless someone majored in creative writing in some major creative writing program that introduces them to a wide variety of contemporary material. Otherwise, who knows what you're getting into?

Of course, we are talking in terms of basic information here--but not everyone thinks of googling MFA rankings. Instead, their professors tell them about a couple of good programs or they look up some big names and that is the extent of their research.

The lists of rankings people put together based off of "funding" and "selectivity" and "reputation" often aren't much better. I suppose it shows that people google'd MFA rankings and compiled a list--but many (most) of these lists I see people putting together (on these forums or the MFA blog, even) are totally nonsensical if the applicant knows anything about where the faculty of various programs are positioned in the contemporary 'aesthetic' landscape [I don't know how much this applies to fiction but it definitely applies to poetry].

The person who hasn't looked up MFA rankings online might have a better writing sample than the person who has. I don't think being a participant on these forums or looking at MFA rankings says much about the quality of the applicant. I'd suppose the people online are in the same boat as the people offline (aside from knowing which places are funded--which is kind of big in terms of debt and such but not as much in terms of how successful of a writer they will be in the long run).


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Zuleika Dobson


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With all due respect, my criticism wasn't about their lack of research, but a rather an alarming combination involving lack of common sense and general IQ... harsh but true.

But I also think that they could very easily have researched instead of wasting everyone's time. Not having 'easy access' is not a reasonable excuse. With all the sites about MFAs out there, it's almost impossible NOT to read about them.


"Every spectator is a coward or a traitor."


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Nov 18, 2009, 9:50 PM

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Youre saying that (With all the sites about MFAs out there, it's almost impossible NOT to read about them.) as someone who participates in an online poetry forum. I think your perception is skewed.

Im currently living on a farm and taking classes at the local branch university. There are some decent undergraduate-level writers (I dont know how they would do applying to top programs, but still) who write local-type fiction and poetry. Many of them talked about their desire to go to MFA programs but very few of them have any idea what is involved in the application process and the professors dont seem to know much either.

There is no publish or perish mindset around here. No perception that one has to apply to 10+ programs to be competitive. Nothing of the sort.

Hell, one person is so set on keeping their sense of local identity that they will only attend the University of Wisconsin (although there arent any writers at the school that write in the same style as the said student, nor are they accepting applications in his genre during his senior year) I read some of his stuffIm not the best judge of fiction but his work was wonderfully comical and slightly surreal. Hed probably fit in wonderful in a program that is open to that kind of writing. I can see the same thing happening at NYC schoolspeople want to stay in the city. They may not have a huge sense of MFA programs or have looked much at online rankings but they probably found out which schools in town have MFA programs.

Philosophy and classics majors are often clueless about shit like this too (I have a few friends in such fields and basically I had to tell them where to applyand Im not even a major in either field though, I do know where a lot of continental philosophy experts are).


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Friend: Im going to apply to [insert program].
Me: I think youd be really unhappy there.
Friend: How do YOU know where I'd be happy?!
Me: Dude, that program is all philosophy of logic and cognitive science.
Friend: Oh. Good point."


Im not saying that there wont be crappy people in workshop. Likely, there will be. I HIGHLY doubt how well they are able to look up MFA program rankings or find poetry forums online has much to do with this. Hell, there are many brilliant people out there who know nothing about admissions.


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Aren't all the crew at Wisconsin flown in from urban areas, though? When we think of Lorrie Moore, do we think: Ah, Wisconsin!


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I'm not saying it makes any sense faculty wise--it is more of a "I don't want to live anywhere but Wisconsin" thing.

I mean, I'm a HUGE Lorine Niedecker junky--but even she went to "hang out" with Zukofsky for a while.

...still, I understand why people want to hold onto their sense of place.


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Agreed. So far the choices for the Texan-born are: (1) get into the world's hardest school or (2) see #1.

P.S. Zuleika, what the eff does je suis d'accord mean other than a song by the world's awesomest woman?


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ericweinstein
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Nov 18, 2009, 10:53 PM

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It's French for "I agree."


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


Zuleika Dobson


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Yep. Quite literally, it's "I am of agreement" (or accordance). Sorry. I was abroad most of this year and certain phrases still sound/look more correct than English. I also developed a Pavlovian response to automatically speak French whenever I hear an accent of any sort.

Forum: again, it wasn't the research that bothered me. It just happened to be icing on top of the proverbial cake--and a reminder that the best and most competitive MFA programs don't necessarily attract the 'best and brightest' in any traditional sense.


"Every spectator is a coward or a traitor."


ericweinstein
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Forum: again, it wasn't the research that bothered me. It just happened to be icing on top of the proverbial cake--and a reminder that the best and most competitive MFA programs don't necessarily attract the 'best and brightest' in any traditional sense.


Too true. Just submitted my NYU app this afternoon. Four down, three to go!


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


Zuleika Dobson


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We're not worthy, we're not worthy!

I have submitted nothing. I have finished all of it except, of course, my writing sample. I suspected I would be rewriting and revising until the last minute, which is exactly what's happening. But I always secretly enjoyed that week of camping out in the library during finals, fueled off nothing but coffee and XRs and that ever-abating window of time.


"Every spectator is a coward or a traitor."


ericweinstein
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Usually I procrastinate pretty heavily, which I originally figured I would do with MFA applications because (and this was the rationalization masquerading as logic) "hey, what if I write that one brilliant poem a day before the deadline?" I then remembered that things I think are awesome right after I finish them almost never are, and proceeded to scare myself into thinking that if I did procrastinate, I'd end up submitting a totally different (and inferior) MS.


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


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I'd written only poetry for most of my life (up until a year and a half ago), and I'd fall into a frenzy of inspiration at 2 am that would result in a nice, rabid little poem three hours later. Of course, this only happened every couple of months.

But I struggle a LOT with lengthier endeavors. This novel-writing thing is new to me and it's damn exhausting. Makes me wonder how the hell Byron was able to churn out Childe Harold.

Are you applying to Columbia too?


"Every spectator is a coward or a traitor."


ericweinstein
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Dec 7, 2009, 3:06 PM

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I am, though the NYU funding package and willingness to accomodate applicants working full-time makes them more attractive to me. Columbia is a fantastic program, though, and I'd love to stay in NYC, so I figure I'll apply and see if I can work out work/funding/&c with them if I'm accepted.

Have you started tackling their 1,000-word academic essay yet?


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


Zuleika Dobson


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I absolutely have not. Was about to ask you the same thing.

Agreed, and on top of what you mentioned, I enjoyed their nonchalance about specifics of the application not related to the writing sample. I am wary of programs that require additional critiques, essays, evaluations from professors... but not NYU.

Easy, breezy, beautiful.


"Every spectator is a coward or a traitor."


ericweinstein
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*Accommodate. Man, I'm never fast enough to defeat this beat-the-clock post-editing system.

And I agree re: additional requirements beyond the MS. I was originally going to rework an essay I wrote during undergrad, but I don't think I responded to any collections of poetry written within the last ten years (as required by the Columbia prompt). I think I'm going to have to go with something brand-new, which isn't horribly difficult (1,000 words is, what, three to four double-spaced pages?) but still takes time away from editing the MS, which is what I feel I should be mainly concerned with.

Then again, Columbia takes 80 - 90 of the 600-ish applicants they get each year, so they've got one of the highest acceptance rates around.


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Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


Zuleika Dobson


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Yeah, I feel like if I don't get into a program with those highly-encouraging numbers, I might fall into a misery the world has never known.

The 'past ten years' requirement is a bitch, but probably the only way they can ensure that the majority of these will be written specifically for this application. Wish I were applying for poetry. Then I'd write something about Craig Arnold's work and tie it all up with a wonderfully mournful ending.

I'm torn between 'extremely obscure' or PEN/Hemingway winner.


"Every spectator is a coward or a traitor."


ericweinstein
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Interesting you should say that, since I was considering Craig Arnold as a definite possibility (I'm a huge fan of Made Flesh). Also considering Dean Young, Franz Wright, Paul Muldoon, and Natasha Trethewey.


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Zuleika Dobson


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Dec 7, 2009, 4:42 PM

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Hands down my favorite living or almost-living writer, poetry or fiction.

Made Flesh is a grand succession of petite morts.

Note: would totally want to read yours if you happen to choose Mr. Arnold.


"Every spectator is a coward or a traitor."

(This post was edited by Zuleika Dobson on Dec 7, 2009, 4:44 PM)


ericweinstein
Eric Weinstein


Dec 8, 2009, 8:13 PM

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If I go with Craig's Made Flesh, I'll definitely send you a copy to look at. Thanks!


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


NaomiMBishop
Naomi Melati Bishop

Mar 22, 2011, 3:22 AM

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Hi, I wanted to restart the forum for NYU MFA admits, current students, and prospective students. I am currently deciding between NYU and Columbia's programs. NYU offers better financial aid, however it is a much less intensive program with far fewer classes. Columbia's professors seem much more accessible and the rigorous program can be likened to a PhD in English with a creative dissertation.

It's a matter of personal preference, but I'd love to hear from some current NYU students (preferably in fiction)! Thanks :)


ericweinstein
Eric Weinstein


Mar 22, 2011, 5:41 AM

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I've never had an accessibility issue with my professors at NYU. For me, it was a no-brainer, since I could cobble together the funds to go to NYU for free but couldn't do so for Columbia (their program would have put me nearly $100,000 in debt).

True, the Columbia MFA requires more classes, and that should be a deciding factor if that's what you really want. I wanted to be able to keep working while I pursued my MFA, which is easily done at NYU but is virtually impossible at Columbia.

I don't know a ton about Columbia's program aside from what's available on their website, but feel free to PM me if you have questions about NYU!


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


kghoerth



Mar 22, 2011, 12:23 PM

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I know a Columbia MFA grad with an exhuberant amount of debt, but at the same time she's an amazing writer. LoL, I'm not too helpful that's all I happen to know :)


ericweinstein
Eric Weinstein


Jul 3, 2011, 8:43 PM

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Yeah, the few Columbia MFA people i know report having huge amounts of student debt. Unless you're independently wealthy or one of the few granted full funding, I can't see how you'd justify attending Columbia's MFA program.


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


zackperici
Zack Perici

Aug 19, 2011, 6:06 AM

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You know, I wish I knew then what I knew now about going into that much debt for education. I got my BFA in writing for a cool hundred-and-twenty-thou. It seemed perfectly logical; If I ran out of money "they" could take away my house or my car, but I'd always have the education. Then I realized that even though I could keep the education, they can still take my next 30 years of paychecks.
I don't regret the education, but I do regret the financial irresponsibility that enabled it.


ericweinstein
Eric Weinstein


Aug 19, 2011, 12:02 PM

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Yeah, that was why I decided I wouldn't attend an MFA program if I had to pay for it. Still working on the undergraduate student loans.


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Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


AMB
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Dec 2, 2011, 8:02 PM

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Hey there,
Does anyone know whether NYU offers the *possibility* of full-funding plus a stipend? I'm thinking about applying for poetry. I know the school has a reputation for lousy funding, but I'd still go through with the application if there's a chance (even a minuscule one) that I'll get lucky and have my tuition waived and a little bit of spending cash to boot. So, does anyone know? And if so, do you know what the highest awards are, and how many NYU offers a year?
Thanks in advance,
AMB


ericweinstein
Eric Weinstein


Dec 2, 2011, 9:27 PM

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Yes, they do. I'll be finishing my MFA at NYU in May, and I haven't ended up paying anything for it. (In fact, I'll have paid off my modest undergraduate student loans with the fellowship stipend afforded me this year.)

What makes you think NYU has lousy funding?


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


(This post was edited by ericweinstein on Dec 2, 2011, 9:29 PM)


Mary Gannon
Mary Gannon

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Dec 7, 2011, 4:44 PM

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Yes, they do. Here's a link the fellowships they offer: http://cwp.fas.nyu.edu/...hipsliteraryoutreach.

Does anyone know whether NYU offers the *possibility* of full-funding plus a stipend?



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grlfromipanema
Elizabeth Davis

May 2, 2012, 5:09 PM

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Anyone heard anything? Their waitlist email said it could be until August, but April 15th and the deposit deadline have passed. Anyone else still waiting?


Null
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Jun 11, 2012, 2:34 AM

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I would like to apply to NYU's MA in Creative Writing once I finish my MFA in '14. Would you happen to have any information on what the MA in CW is like in comparison to the MFA? What about the MA CW the funding options? :D Hopefully I didn't miss this info when browsing this thread.


(This post was edited by jlsun on Jun 11, 2012, 2:36 AM)


DylanTaiNguyen


Aug 21, 2013, 1:21 AM

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Dear friends,

I apologize if this is not the ideal forum to post this. But... I'm a fiction writer—and MFA graduate—who's also a small business owner. I'm looking for a part-time office assistant; what I'm offering would be, I think, an ideal job for any MFA student. Please read below. I'd rather offer the job to a fellow scribe than anyone else!

Thank you for your time.

Get Paid while Working on your

Poems, Stories, Plays!


Small Test Prep Company, Run by Fiction Writer

Looking For Students to Proctor

Mock SAT/ACT Exams

at St. Francis College (Brooklyn Heights)

Accessible by A, C, E, F,

2, 3, 4, 5, 6, R trains



· Must be able to proctor weekend mornings
· And also work 3 to 6 hours Monday through Friday (morning or early afternoon: hours flexible) as administrative assistant

Advanced Skills
Typing speed (50 wpm)
Microsoft Word and Excel
Organizational skills

Intermediate Skills
Experience with Macintosh computers, scanners
Internet Research
Familiarity with the SAT, ACT, & college application process a plus

Basic Skills
Xeroxing
Filing
Mailing
Shopping for office supplies

Hours:
Flexible Hours Monday thru Friday
(Approximately 3 to 6 hours a week M through F)—varies every week

Must be able to work Saturday and Sundays (9:45 AM to 2 PM—sometimes 9:45 AM to 4 PM) proctoring SAT/ACT exams at St. Francis College in Brooklyn Heights.

However, proctoring exams is the best part of the job. You just have to tell students when to start and stop for certain sections. Compose, edit, find your Muse—while students are taking the test! You can also surf the internet.

The number of hours of work Monday through Friday varies from week to week—so please be aware of this fact.This situation could be ideal for students. For example, one week, you might want to work less because you have exams to study for.

Pay Rate: negotiable (Commensurate with office skills)

Other Info: Email your resume to MeritScholarsBill@Gmail.com


DylanTaiNguyen


Aug 21, 2013, 2:05 AM

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Hi everyone,
In the job posting below, I misspelled my email address.
It should be: MeritScholarsBilling@gmail.com.
Thank you!





Dear friends,

I apologize if this is not the ideal forum to post this. But... I'm a fiction writer—and MFA graduate—who's also a small business owner. I'm looking for a part-time office assistant; what I'm offering would be, I think, an ideal job for any MFA student. Please read below. I'd rather offer the job to a fellow scribe than anyone else!

Thank you for your time.

Get Paid while Working on your

Poems, Stories, Plays!


Small Test Prep Company, Run by Fiction Writer

Looking For Students to Proctor

Mock SAT/ACT Exams

at St. Francis College (Brooklyn Heights)

Accessible by A, C, E, F,

2, 3, 4, 5, 6, R trains



· Must be able to proctor weekend mornings
· And also work 3 to 6 hours Monday through Friday (morning or early afternoon: hours flexible) as administrative assistant

Advanced Skills
Typing speed (50 wpm)
Microsoft Word and Excel
Organizational skills

Intermediate Skills
Experience with Macintosh computers, scanners
Internet Research
Familiarity with the SAT, ACT, & college application process a plus

Basic Skills
Xeroxing
Filing
Mailing
Shopping for office supplies

Hours:
Flexible Hours Monday thru Friday
(Approximately 3 to 6 hours a week M through F)—varies every week

Must be able to work Saturday and Sundays (9:45 AM to 2 PM—sometimes 9:45 AM to 4 PM) proctoring SAT/ACT exams at St. Francis College in Brooklyn Heights.

However, proctoring exams is the best part of the job. You just have to tell students when to start and stop for certain sections. Compose, edit, find your Muse—while students are taking the test! You can also surf the internet.

The number of hours of work Monday through Friday varies from week to week—so please be aware of this fact.This situation could be ideal for students. For example, one week, you might want to work less because you have exams to study for.

Pay Rate: negotiable (Commensurate with office skills)

Other Info: Email your resume to MeritScholarsBill@Gmail.com


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Aug 21, 2013, 7:23 AM

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You only need to post this once. Everyone will see it and not get annoyed at being spammed.


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