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stellalovers


Feb 28, 2007, 5:17 PM

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Re: [commanda] FSU/UMass [In reply to] Can't Post

thanks for the info!

love,

apeshit


susuq33


Feb 28, 2007, 5:41 PM

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I've held out long enough: is this MFA business not the worst system ever for writers? By nature, writers are sensitive, right? Or at least in tune with their surroundings enough to relay them on a page. So why does such a brutal (not to mention expensive--& not just money-wise!) system exist in which our thoughts, feelings, observations, and great to minute portions of our self-worth are all ridiculously exploited and magnitized? And really, isn't the implicit point of the degree to learn something? Why do I get the feeling that it's much more like some exclusive club where already-fabulous writers meet and network?

But maybe I'm just frustrated. A poet of at least some self-confidence, I have a feeling that I'm sitting on 6 nice, round rejections this year. MD has just notified. Bama's notified. GA forgets I exist. And the rest, well--they're in NYC.

I send my best to you all.


SweetJane


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Feb 28, 2007, 5:42 PM

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Re: [sarahc] Montana [In reply to] Can't Post

March 9th is at least a smidge better than UVA's rumored early April notification.

Still, agggh.


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As info: I just called Montana to make sure my application was complete, and I was told that they're making their decisions on March 9th. (which is frickin light years away).

also apeshit here.



SJ

"Oh, all the poets they studied rules of verse
and those ladies, they rolled their eyes"


sjc477


Feb 28, 2007, 5:58 PM

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Re: [SweetJane] Montana [In reply to] Can't Post

Rejection from Texas State, letter dated 2/22. They spelled my name wrong...


BlueVelveeta


Feb 28, 2007, 5:59 PM

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Re: [susuq33] Torture [In reply to] Can't Post

Amen, susuq33.


kekaczor
Kim


Feb 28, 2007, 6:41 PM

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Re: [piratelizzy] Miami University - Ohio [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks! It is Kim. I feel a bit more relaxed about waiting(funny how money will do that.)


Elise


Feb 28, 2007, 6:45 PM

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Re: [renapoo] Michigan Waitlist [In reply to] Can't Post

 Congrats waitlisters! I wish I would just get the rejection letter in the mail. I'm in Missouri, so shouldn't I have it by now? Oh well, there's always Montana to look forward to.


Mainer


Feb 28, 2007, 6:49 PM

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I got my first news of the process today, an interview request from Hamline. It felt great just to hear something, anything. I am going to go in there and hug everyone in that interview.


I received an email from Minnesota State, Mankato today asking if I'm still interested in a TA-ship w/ the English Deptfor next year, and, if so, to reply asap to set up a phone interview for next week.

So I guess that's good news, isn't it? At least it's news!


jobieh
Jobie Hughes
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Feb 28, 2007, 6:55 PM

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Re: [sjc477] Montana [In reply to] Can't Post

Oh man that's rough. I got three separate rejection letters three straight weeks last year from Michigan. I figured they weren't too impressed with my sample to reject me thrice.


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Rejection from Texas State, letter dated 2/22. They spelled my name wrong...



gasolinefight


Feb 28, 2007, 6:56 PM

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Re: [Elise] Michigan Waitlist [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm in Missouri, too. Where the heck are our letters? I got my official paper rejection from Wisconsin today. It was much warmer than the blatant "Refusal" the website gave me.

My mind is still obsessed with this whole thing--but I was accepted to the University of Washington in Seattle on Monday. It has really lowered the stress level, but it does open up another load of stress about relocating. I haven't had any word on funding yet, I've been playing phone tag with someone on the admissions committee. I'll break down and write and email later, if I don't hear anything. For some reason, I'm trying to play it cool. But I'm not cool, I'm completely obsessed.

Or apeshit. I guess that's what we're calling it on the boards now.


Elise


Feb 28, 2007, 7:21 PM

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Re: [nerdytina] Michigan Waitlist [In reply to] Can't Post

Hey—congrats on UW! I'm waiting to hear from them too. Are you fiction or poetry? I was wondering about the funding situation there. I remember reading a press release about a big endowment to the program, but I wasn't sure when it would go into effect for students.


gasolinefight


Feb 28, 2007, 7:37 PM

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Re: [Elise] Michigan Waitlist [In reply to] Can't Post

Yes! The UW program got a $15 million grant! All the more reason to fund me!

I'm poetry, by the way.


(This post was edited by nerdytina on Feb 28, 2007, 7:41 PM)


brownie07


Feb 28, 2007, 8:19 PM

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Wouldn't it be amazing if each school could give you something like a two-week window in which to expect feedback one way or the other? It would really curtail my Crazy Time.

I know it seems to be getting late for any positive UMass feedback, but I'm working my connections to see if they're all done with handing out the acceptances. I work on campus, so I'm really tempted to just walk over there and demand results. Except that would be awkward. And I'm awkward enough without engineering such situations.



check your status online. your sign in is on the initial letter they sent out upon receipt of your application.

good luck.


ausmith


Feb 28, 2007, 8:20 PM

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Re: [susuq33] Torture [In reply to] Can't Post

Thank you for finally making this point, susuq33 - I, too, have been holding off from jumping in on all this, but I'm beginning to worry what affect all this stress and worry is going to have on my writing - my inspiration has dried up since the first acceptances started going out - all I do now is obsessively check various forms of communication - I suppose that we have chosen to take part in the MFA system, so we can't completely knock it (would we be knocking it if we were getting calls from Iowa and Michigan right now?) - it may simply be frustration - and yet, aside from this, I think you do have a point - I'm pretty sure poetry was never meant to be this way (competitive) - as we all wait to hear good news, bad news, ANY news, I'm wondering how everyone else has been affected by this whole process - has your writing changed as mine has? Should we be concerned about this?


BlueVelveeta


Feb 28, 2007, 8:47 PM

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Thank you for finally making this point, susuq33 - I, too, have been holding off from jumping in on all this, but I'm beginning to worry what affect all this stress and worry is going to have on my writing - my inspiration has dried up since the first acceptances started going out - all I do now is obsessively check various forms of communication - I suppose that we have chosen to take part in the MFA system, so we can't completely knock it (would we be knocking it if we were getting calls from Iowa and Michigan right now?) - it may simply be frustration - and yet, aside from this, I think you do have a point - I'm pretty sure poetry was never meant to be this way (competitive) - as we all wait to hear good news, bad news, ANY news, I'm wondering how everyone else has been affected by this whole process - has your writing changed as mine has? Should we be concerned about this?



We certainly wouldn't be the first people to express concern over and to discuss the impact of MFA programs, competition, and the increasingly (academically and otherwise) insular world of poetry (I'll avoid getting into fiction as my experience therein is limited). I debated the merits of pursuing an MFA for years, and the only reason I ultimately decided to pursue one is because the idea of being paid (I applied only to programs that fully fund their students) to incubate creatively for a few years was too appealing to ignore. Still, I worry. Acceptances will necessarily be guided by the tastes of a given program's teaching staff, and the academic world is fraught with competition---over fellowships, awards, appointments, publications, etc.---that can crush the more sensitive among us. My mentor, whose path I would most like to emulate, never got her MFA; she wrote and read everything she could, whenever she could, and achieved not only an unquestionable level of success, but also an astonishingly sound education (she is perhaps the most well-read person I know). Despite the many people like her, I think that many of us often feel like getting an MFA is the only way to validate our passion for this art. Our society demands accomplishments, typically social or financial, and since poetry is not going to rake in cash or celebrity for most poets, we need an alternative; educational attainment becomes that alternate.

Similarly, certain academic environments seems heinously self-congratulatory. A good friend of mine completed his MFA at a well-respected program. This program was wonderful for him and he milked it for all it was worth. Yet, when I visited with him and hung out with his circle of fellow students, I was regularly appalled by their hubris. They vilified other writing programs and instructors, competed amongst themselves over who had the most network-worthy connections, then assured one another that their group "style" was the most important and truly progressive in contemporary poetry. I realize that it would be erroneous to generalize based on just one experience, but it did concern me. I kept thinking, how did this happen? None of us (or very few of us) began writing poetry as an avenue to fame and fortune, so why do we sometimes let our love for the work come second to our need for validation?

I do it, too. It just bugs me.


redpanel


Feb 28, 2007, 9:18 PM

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Re: [BlueVelveeta] Torture [In reply to] Can't Post

Well said!



commanda
Amanda

Feb 28, 2007, 9:24 PM

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Re: [brownie07] UMass [In reply to] Can't Post

Ha, you presume that I haven't been checking that online status sucker for days. It remains "applied," seemingly eternally. UMass can shove it, however. (The acceptance to Wash U has changed my outlook on that particular locale). Anyone seeking some secondhand information re: that particular program can private message me.

But thanks, Brownie, anyway!


strangelet


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Feb 28, 2007, 10:07 PM

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"UMass can shove it..." Rock on--- you just made my day LOL

UMass rejected me 2 years in a row, both times with curt letters... so I did not apply there this year. I had my own version of "UMass can shove it," and it felt freakin' great :-) Thanks for keeping it real, as we all have our moments with this stuff!

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Ha, you presume that I haven't been checking that online status sucker for days. It remains "applied," seemingly eternally. UMass can shove it, however. (The acceptance to Wash U has changed my outlook on that particular locale).



Hallelu you're the girl who whispers through the wall
I'd build you a hammer with a thick head and long claws
-- Grant-Lee Phillips


jargreen

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Feb 28, 2007, 10:20 PM

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Hey, I got a question for you folks who applied last year (or in previous years). Some of you have mentioned that you didn't hear from some schools till April or even May. These incredibly late schools, did they take that long to accept you, reject you, or did they just forget about you (lord, I hope it's not the last one)? I guess I'm wondering if the schools that take their sweetass time are actually doing so because they would like to accept us and they're waiting for a space to open up. Can't believe I never asked this one before.

Thanks!
Ryan


strangelet


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Feb 28, 2007, 10:48 PM

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Hi Ryan,

Usually (in my experience), if you wait til April, it's b/c they waitlisted you. Many schools do not notify the people on their waitlist until after their first choice people have made final decisions.


Hallelu you're the girl who whispers through the wall
I'd build you a hammer with a thick head and long claws
-- Grant-Lee Phillips


kiiro


Feb 28, 2007, 10:48 PM

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You're right. I called UA today to find out, and they gave me an explanation of their process. They reject all but 1/2 more of the number of students they plan on accepting. Of the first round of acceptances, they figure some will get a better offer and decide to go elsewhere. When they're notified that a spot has been vacated, they choose a person who hasn't been offered a position. If it gets past a certain point, they call the potential students and ask if they're accepting, and eventually those extras who they can't offer a position get a rejection letter.

I think that's how it goes for a lot of schools, so if you get accepted to multiple schools and decide that one offer isn't what you're looking for, call them so someone else can stop waiting!


kiiro


Feb 28, 2007, 10:51 PM

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I got my first news of the process today, an interview request from Hamline. It felt great just to hear something, anything. I am going to go in there and hug everyone in that interview.


I received an email from Minnesota State, Mankato today asking if I'm still interested in a TA-ship w/ the English Deptfor next year, and, if so, to reply asap to set up a phone interview for next week.

So I guess that's good news, isn't it? At least it's news!

Lucky! I applied there for fiction! What are you going for?

I hope this means I'll hear from them soon!


augustmaria


Feb 28, 2007, 11:02 PM

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These were the approximate dates from my round last year:

acceptance at Montana: March 1
waitlist notice at Bowling Green: March 8
waitlist notice at Indiana and Louisana State: March 20
acceptance at Indiana: April 4
acceptance at Bowling Green: April 7

Lousiana sort of drifted off into the distance. They sent a letter of acceptance in late May to the wrong address, then rejected me. They were all bunged-up by Katrina. But as you can see from the dates, I still had a long time to go at this point last year. So buck up!


P.S. - Getting in off the waitlist is cool. I like to throw it out there at random points. "What, my story is better than yours? And I was waitlisted? Psssssh."


weert006
Matthew Weerts

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Feb 28, 2007, 11:17 PM

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Mainer- I applied to Mankato too. I thought I applied for a taship there but it turns out I forgot a couple things, so I am eligible to get accepted, but not teach. I still might go there if I get in. Terry Davis is awesome, he is the fiction guy. I dont know if you are fiction or poetry though?- He wrote a book called Vision Quest that got turned into a movie with Matthew Modine in the 80s. Its a Catcher in the Rye deal about high school wrestling. Cult classic among ex high school wrestlers who cling to old dreams (me) that features Madonna, singing her first number one hit (Crazy for you)

A ridiculous thing about Mankato and I- I grew up there, and not only was my mom a tenured prof there (nutrition) but my grandpa also was (accounting) and my aunt wasnt tenured but she taught for a couple years in education. Crazy. So if you want to know anything about that town at all Mainer, I can tell you. I dont know who will do your interview, but it will probably be Richard Robbins. He is really nice. I grew up running around that school. If I dont get in I will seriously be offended.

Kilro- I am editing this becaue I just saw you applied to Mankato as well. Will one of you tell me if you hear an acceptance/rejection please- Thanks.

Oh, and you can only eat like two fish a year out of the river there. I used to eat them all the time, before the rule came out, so youll probably be fine, but just in case...


(This post was edited by weert006 on Feb 28, 2007, 11:34 PM)


sibyline


Feb 28, 2007, 11:29 PM

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If you feel like taking a break from all this waiting, check out the Writers at Cornell blog: http://writersatcornell.blogspot.com/, where J. Robert Lennon is interviewing all the visiting writers at Cornell this semester. I don't know the poets but there are a lot of them! As for the fictioners, this week it's Junot Diaz, and George Saunders is coming up. The Diaz interview is pretty amazing.

I was going to make a new "Cornell MFA" thread but I'm apparently not allowed right now. Motet, do you want to move this post?

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