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boy named sue


Feb 22, 2006, 1:12 PM

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i have a lame question - are you allowed to continue submitting (to journals) pieces you included in your application MS?


thee swimmer -- i would definitely not worry about the toefls. i'm canadian too. unless you've generously littered your application with "oot and aboot" and "hockey rulz eh?" they won't bother with toelfs.


sibyline


Feb 22, 2006, 1:16 PM

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Brown put an MFA update on their literary arts website which states that decisions will be made in mid to late March (past years on Speakeasy have suggested early to mid March).
...
University of Washington (Seattle)-- mid March
Emerson-- mid Feb- late Feb (already found out from them
Cornell-- late Feb (obviously, they've already made their first choices)
UMass-- early March (poets have already found out this year)
JHU-- late March
Stegner Fellowship-- late March- early April
Iowa-- late Feb.-early March


Wow. Thanks for this Franz. We have a lot of overlap. I'm really bummed about JHU responses being in late March, because I'll be on pins and needles until then.

Waiting, waiting...


franz

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Feb 22, 2006, 1:27 PM

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i have a lame question - are you allowed to continue submitting (to journals) pieces you included in your application MS?


Hell yeah! I've been sending out my work like crazy. I'm thinking about things from the angle of chaos theory and probability:
Anything that can happen will happen, if given enough time and opportunities;
or to put it another way-- the more things I send out, the more rejections I will receive, but also, the higher the likelihood of receiving an acceptance.

I think that sending our work out is a good way to recycle our hope and anxiety from the MFA applications process-- and for those of us who might not get into our preferred programs, getting published in a lit mag or at least getting our hands dirty in the process is reason enough to persevere.
And when you're always waiting for the mail, there's always hope.


Franz Knupfer, author of short stories and novels


miekekoo


Feb 22, 2006, 1:37 PM

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I totally agree with Franz. I'm having trouble getting much writing done right now--too tense--but I've been submitting finished work and it makes me feel better somehow. It reminds me that I'm still a writer, no matter what the schools I applied to decide.


fratres


Feb 22, 2006, 1:40 PM

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Another lurker here. And another Michener denial. Like someone said earlier, there were probably around 900 applications--with such numbers it's hard to take it too personally. Also, I've heard from people who've gone through the program that the acceptances are a crapshoot. It would have been nice, though, all that money--but then again, that's mostly what Michener is about: money, not the program, unless of course you get a good visiting prof., but that's unpredictable. Other schools I hope to get into are UMinn and Syracuse. I applied to several others as well, all decent ones with decent funding, but I question whether I'd want to go to them after all--my job is not a horrible one, and I dread falling into the situation we often here about from TAs--no time to write. (While my attitude here is sincere, I sometimes wonder if I'm not simply preparing myself for failure.)


lavashlavash


Feb 22, 2006, 2:14 PM

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Word on the street is that Wash. U in St. Louis will be notifying applicants soon. Apparently, they have just received a message of approval from the Dean of Arts and Sciences.


boy named sue


Feb 22, 2006, 2:16 PM

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thanks franz and kateb. i had stopped submitting during the craziness of applications, but i guess it's time to start sending stuff out again. i'm going to have a nice little pile of rejection letters from schools and journals to read over while drinking a bottle of jd.

rejection really sucks.


sovietsleepover


Feb 22, 2006, 4:47 PM

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I feel kind of self-conscious dishing on the Michener Center since I'm sure a couple of my classmates or professors are lurking around here occasionally! But here goes:

The positives about the program: it's an incredibly warm, welcoming program that's fairly diverse in terms of writing styles. I really like & enjoy the company of most of my classmates, and personality-wise they seem pretty diverse, too: a wide range on the spectrum of quiet & sincere to loud & testosterone-heavy, all of whom seem to intermingle a fair amount. Because everyone's required to choose a secondary genre the occasional "beginners" in your classes bring interesting perspectives to the table & are usually quite competant if not completely at ease in their 2ndary. The academic requirements for graduation are extremely flexible, allowing you to take PhD-level, theory-heavy lit classes or lighter-weight "lit for writers" type survey courses. In their 2nd & 3rd years lots of people organize conference courses--small classes that meet one-on-one or in small groups with a professor and can be about nearly whatever you'd like (for example: one of my classmates is organizing an experimental playwriting course for Spring 07 that'll draw classmates from different areas of theater & writing departments with the intention of producing a few short, audience-immersive plays in time for a local theater festival). There are good school-sponsored reading series (Alice Notley & Jonathan Lethem coming this semester), and the undergrad honors program just opened a gorgeous & well-stocked reading room full of poetry & lit magazines. There's a writers-in-the-schools program (I've heard negative comments about how it's organized but I have no personal experience with it), & there's a new nationally-distributed literary magazine (the Bat City Review) that students are welcome to work on. Obviously the money's good, as is the abundance of free time and no teaching load...

The negatives: as I've said before, the Michener Center's 'gimmick' is to bring in visiting faculty, and as far as I know half the workshops every semester are taught by visitors. On one hand it's a great chance to work with interesting visiting writers (Naomi Shihab Nye was here last year, and I know Dean Young will be here for Spring/Fall 2007; I got to go to a three-hour masterclass with Salman Rushdie, also!). On the other, because writers don't stick around very long, there's less of an impetus for them to build lasting relationships with their students, and so though they may be fascinating, they don't seem to have much personal involvement with us. Of course this is a two-way street, & if I were at every professor's office hours each week I'd surely have a different perspective on the matter. That said, A. Van Jordan's just joined the English Department's permanent faculty and seems really engaging & a great poet.

I have some complaints about Austin as a city, but those are completely personal, and I'm sure I'm happier in Austin than I would be in, say, Houston or Iowa City! I also haven't lived here for very long, so I don't know the city's secret quirks as intimately as I'd like, & Austin isn't as forthcoming with its oddities as other places I've lived have been.


Ms. Mystery


Feb 22, 2006, 5:47 PM

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Wow, Miriam, thanks for all of the information. I was wondering how the visiting professor deal worked because currently the website lists some pretty awesome visitors. (Denis Johnson! Naomi Shihab Nye!) But it doesn't really address how long these visiting faculty stick around. And when I look at my criteria for an awesome MFA program, funding, length of residency, urban locale, and agreeable climate are all really important to me. That said, I think a sense of community trumps everything else (for me, at least) because that helps me stay focused and happy. I ddon't want to put you in the hot seat (with potential colleagues & professorial lurkers), but do you feel a sense of community? If you don't want to answer on the forum, PM me. And then we can also talk about Pittsburgh, the Squirrel Cage, Primanti's, and all of its other very forthcoming oddities. Thanks for answering! --Sarah

P.S. Have you had any classes with A. Van Jordan? He's one of the poets I'm most interested in working with at Austin. Like, if I get in. Putting the cart before the horse? Maybe a little bit.


shadowboxer


Feb 22, 2006, 6:15 PM

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Iowa has made their decisions and is notifying. Just thought I would let you guys know.


ciaosamin


Feb 22, 2006, 6:52 PM

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yup. i just saw on the grad cafe site that someone got an acceptance phone call from iowa today, in fiction. this is going to be a long week.


sovietsleepover


Feb 22, 2006, 6:53 PM

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Denis Johnson is (or will be?) full-time faculty at Texas State in San Marcos, which means he'll probably do a semester at the Michener Center again in the next few years. I know Naomi Shihab Nye was there for a full year. John Dufresne & August Kleinzahler are here for single semesters only. I don't know anything about A. Van Jordan yet (I don't think he's teaching now--maybe an undergrad class? I know he'll be teaching grad-level workshops in the fall though!), but I've talked to him at a couple after-reading-receptions & he seems very friendly & approachable, and based on M-A-C-N-O-L-I-A would bring an incredible, diverse aesthetic to his workshop, but I really have no idea what he's like as a professor. I'm definitely excited about getting to work with him though, and I'd imagine if you wanted to get in touch with him yourself he'd be totally amenable (though he probably wouldn't have too much insight into the program itself yet).

Van Jordan's MA English Dept faculty, and I know they're run differently, and a lot of MA students are dissatisfied with the departmental disorganization--there've been three different creative writing chairs of the department in the past three years, and the quality of writers ranges from amazing prodigy to someone you'd expect to find in an intro-level undergrad workshop. It's very strange. We take classes with them, but the social circles don't overlap as much as you'd expect.

The sense of community: I cannot say anything better about it--it's great. I really respect & admire the three other poets in my year--both as poets, critiquers, and awesome friends. Everyone else is equally approachable and friendly--of course there are some undercurrents of petty politics every once in a while, but I think all social scenes have those & I've steered pretty clear of being involved. I'm sure this of all things is a total crapshoot about any program--if I disliked one or two of the other poets I'm sure it would change the entire dynamic..

(Oh my goodness, do I miss Pittsburgh! I definitely miss the abundance of reading series, but also the Carnegie Library's glass-floored stacks, the now-closed sea sponge shop on Liberty Avenue downtown, going to the strip district for amazing cheap groceries & seeing wild birds flying around inside the Asian markets! There is no city I've ever lived in that's had such an available and amazing cultural history combined with awesome arts. What a love affair with that city I have!)


mingram
Mike Ingram

Feb 22, 2006, 8:11 PM

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One thing to consider about community is the size of different programs, and the pros and cons of different sizes. When I was choosing schools, I frankly thought a small program (6-7 fiction writers per year) would be great, because I imagined you'd get a lot of individual attention from faculty. Which is probably true. At the same time, if you don't get along with 3 of those 6 people -- or don't really respond to their work, or find their critiques of your own work somewhat unhelpful -- that could be a big deal. I ended up choosing Iowa despite its larger class size (roughly 25 fiction writers per year) but now I'm actually glad to have as many classmates as I do. It results in a nice diversity of aesthetics, and opinions, and on a social level I feel like I'm part of a pretty good-sized community of writers (there are about a hundred people in the workshop at any given time between poets and fiction writers).

I haven't had the mentoring relationship with faculty that I might have had elsewhere -- which is not to say the faculty hasn't been immensely helpful in workshop, or willing to meet outside of workshop when I've made the effort. But the really meaningful relationships for me -- and the ones I expect will continue beyond the two years I'm here -- have been with my classmates. Which is nice, actually -- they're all very serious about writing and reading and they'll be the people who will be your peers as you continue on in the writing world.

All of which is to say that there are pros and cons to class size, and they may depend on what you're looking to get out of a program.


bdenied


Feb 22, 2006, 9:41 PM

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Denied by Michener. Damn!


tracyo


Feb 22, 2006, 10:19 PM

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Re: [RedFaerie21] [franz]The Waiting Game...Have you heard yet??? [In reply to] Can't Post

ack sorry for the out-of-order response. red faerie, i'm primarily interested in writing my own fiction. but the usc phd is uniquely intriguing for the creative writing focus and the phd double whammy. i'm actually taking a class w/ bruce smith this summer so i'll try to get some info from him (he's full time faculty in the phd program). i've been back and forth on the phd/mfa spectrum since i started the ma (which i finish in a matter of months). usc seems to offer best of both somewhat...but i'm not sure. of course i have to wait to see what happens with the mfa programs this year first. but if i get rejected, i'll probably apply to more mfa programs next year in addition to sc. (i also did an sc tour in law school, so i guess i feel semi-at home there...) and i suppose my main concern would be funding. if it's good, why not do the extra time if you can still write? i would need to get much more clarification on the other requirements, however (language, dissertation, class breakdown, etc.)

blah blah. speaking of all these admissions: did anyone hear what happened at berkeley law? the admissions director accidentally sent an email inviting about 1000 applicants to an accepted student event, when in fact very few of those 1000 had actually been accepted. they had to send two add'l emails out, one clarifying the error and then one confirming that anyone who had previously been rejected was, despite the faux invite, still...rejected. i feel for the folks.

best to iowa hopefuls.


Aubrie


Feb 22, 2006, 10:26 PM

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Re: [tracyo] [franz]The Waiting Game...Have you heard yet??? [In reply to] Can't Post

It has been quite quiet here.
Where are all the notifications?
Perhaps it is the quiet before the storm?


gussy

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Feb 23, 2006, 12:00 AM

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Sorry to hear that -- totally sucks. Where else have you applied? Poetry or fiction?


gussy

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Feb 23, 2006, 12:16 AM

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Yep, gotta be the quiet before the storm -- with these Michener and Iowa decisions on the way, we can't expect anything but that... (sigh)


greenrose


Feb 23, 2006, 12:16 AM

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Re: [Aubrie] [franz]The Waiting Game...Have you heard yet??? [In reply to] Can't Post

Aubrie, I totally feel your anxiety, but if I remember correctly, for most of the programs you applied to, no one has heard yet...thank you for posting all my innermost thoughts and worries :) but don't forget that only a very few schools have notified either way, and in a couple weeks the worst (or best!) will be known...thank god it's not indefinite...
good luck to all, and thanks again to everyone who posts here, you've really helped me cope with the waiting


gussy

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Feb 23, 2006, 12:18 AM

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Oops, yeah, I forgot Aubrie applied in the NYC area! (I applied to a couple of NYC MFAs too). But, yeah, as greenrose says, in a couple of weeks all this uncertainty will be in the past -- for better or for worse, argh !


Aubrie


Feb 23, 2006, 12:28 AM

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Re: [gussy] [franz]The Waiting Game...Have you heard yet??? [In reply to] Can't Post

I was totally writing on behalf of all of us.
And I really do think that we will all be hearing one way or another in these upcoming weeks.
(except for the lazy schools like Columbia and Irvine and the likes)
And now I can add The Grad Cafe to my list of obsessions.
Though as strange as it sounds, I feel like anyone who's internet obsessed and applying to an MFA in writing is on this board with us, and nothing will be posted there that we won't hear here.


atrivedi


Feb 23, 2006, 1:35 AM

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Ok, I'm doing my best here, I promise, to not be in denial over the whole thing, but how come we've heard from one person here, grad cafe, and the live journal applying to grad school post about people hearing from Iowa. I would imagine if folks were getting in, there would be more word, no? Someone anonymous posted on LJ that they called about poetry last Friday, yet I have heard from no one about getting accepted.

Is somebody having some fun with us? Believe me, I've resigned myself to my failure here, but come on, wouldn't there be more than just one person at three sites?


sovietsleepover


Feb 23, 2006, 2:17 AM

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Can some of you smartypantses who're actively sending work out be persuaded to mosey over to the "Sending Your Work Out" forum? It's so slow in there, & I'd love to listen in on a "Choosing a Literary Journal" type discussion to parallel the great, informative "Choosing an MFA Program" conversation that's been going on over here for a couple years at least! I'm begging you! ;)


taizhu


Feb 23, 2006, 9:09 AM

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Nope. No one is pulling your leg. They are beginning the notifications this week as far as I know.


Runlucy


Feb 23, 2006, 9:53 AM

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Do you think Iowa (nonfiction) will call before they post the decisions online? I have an ID and pin # that I'm supposed to be able to check with...

Also, has anyone heard from Montana?

I must confess I know little about some of the programs I applied to. I got into Emerson, but I'm not sure if I can uproot myself from NYC and move to Boston.

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