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Colder


Jan 22, 2010, 3:40 PM

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I thought Almond taught at BC not BU. Anyway, since he wasn't a regular admissions guy, I'm guessing he spent way more time on applications than others would have. One could only hope to get 30-40 min of "face" time. Hell, even 15 min would be great.

re: students reading apps. I hope that this is more of a rarity among programs and that there is some sort of system to double check the decisions students make.


Sorry, you're right. He taught at BC.

As far as students reading apps, that doesn't really bother me as long as we get multiple reads. I know that if I were a student, I'd take the task pretty seriously and enjoy it, especially if I only had 50-100 stories to read over a month or so.


ericweinstein
Eric Weinstein


Jan 22, 2010, 3:47 PM

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I thought it all had to be confidential (and we waived our right to see it).



When you waive your right to view a letter of recommendation, you're only giving up your right to view the record of the letter that the school to which you apply keeps (i.e., if you waive your right and are accepted, you can't go to the admissions office and ask to see it). If your recommender freely gives you a copy, you are absolutely permitted to read it.


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


vermonter


Jan 22, 2010, 3:49 PM

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I skipped the Interfolio option — mainly because I wanted to keep expenses down during an already expensive process. I printed forms in advance, and addressed envelopes to each school, and then my recommenders a big packet with the envelopes, forms, a CV, a detailed letter with instructions, and an early draft of my statement of purpose. I put that all in a self-addressed stamped envelope and had them send that back to me. I also had my transcripts sent me to, unless a school specifically said they had to come from my undergrad college. When it came time to send each out each app, I plucked out the right letters, a transcript, and stuffed that in the folder with my manuscript. It was reassuring to have complete control over when and how my letters were sent to each school, and I hope it made the process easier for my letter writers.

The biggest savior for me was Google Docs. It was such a joy to have color-coded folders for each school, complete with checklists. I even kept a spreadsheet going of expenses (that was depressing), tracked deadlines, and kept a little document filled with password information for each school. I was able to access documents like my statements of purpose and manuscript from any computer, any time. When my hard drive failed in mid-November, and I shipped my laptop off to Apple for repairs, I breathed a HUGE sigh of relief that everything important (application-wise) was saved through Google Docs. I'd recommend this as the way to go for any applicant next time around.


lily_lee


Jan 22, 2010, 3:50 PM

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This too is good news. I actually just checked out Interfolio and the fact recommenders only have to upload a letter (or send it) once is the biggest boon. Mine complained about it being a huge time-consuming hassle to do it for several schools...so being able to cut their work by 90% would make a stressful part of the application far less so.

Yay for the most pre-emptive of pessimistic reapplication jitters being assuaged, and thanks everyone for the info!


ericweinstein
Eric Weinstein


Jan 22, 2010, 3:52 PM

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The biggest savior for me was Google Docs. It was such a joy to have color-coded folders for each school, complete with checklists. I even kept a spreadsheet going of expenses (that was depressing), tracked deadlines, and kept a little document filled with password information for each school. I was able to access documents like my statements of purpose and manuscript from any computer, any time. When my hard drive failed in mid-November, and I shipped my laptop off to Apple for repairs, I breathed a HUGE sigh of relief that everything important (application-wise) was saved through Google Docs. I'd recommend this as the way to go for any applicant next time around.




Seconded. Google Docs saved my life (I even use it to keep track of my submissions to journals/magazines).


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


(This post was edited by ericweinstein on Jan 22, 2010, 3:52 PM)


kbritten

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Jan 22, 2010, 5:22 PM

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I just wanted to let everyone know that I emailed my schools about using Interfolio and every school seemed to have a different answer. Some schools welcomed them, some refused them completely, some said it would be okay, but that they would still have to mail in the form. It was kind of silly. Plus, Interfolio charges $20 just for the service (although in hindsight, I spent more in shipping :) ). I opted against it because it seemed to be more of hassle.


umass76


Jan 22, 2010, 6:33 PM

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Just to correct what was said earlier: I can say, because it's been semi-publicly disseminated already, that Wisconsin had 629 applications this year (all in fiction, as indicated earlier). This is an absolute fact; I am not speculating, this is the number. The reason anyone might have been given a higher figure is that the English Department as a whole received well over 1,000 applications this year, and until the final deadline for applications they don't do a final count of which programs got however many applications. So the university's M.A. and Ph.D. programs in Literary Studies, Rhetoric and Composition, and Applied English Language and Linguistics got hundreds of applications, which is why someone might have been told that, at a certain point in the admissions process, the UW English Department had processed "over 800" applications. But I assure you, of the 1,000+ applications received by the UW English Department during the 2009-10 graduate admissions cycle, precisely 629 were for the MFA program. While that's still an obscenely high number--and while it still makes Wisconsin's MFA acceptance rate the lowest confirmed acceptance rate in the United States--it's also 180+ fewer applications than people have been presuming here, so I think the correction is necessary (and timely). Best of luck to all,

Cheers,
Seth


bergdalea
Abbie J. Bergdale

Jan 22, 2010, 8:11 PM

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Thanks, Seth. I do appreciate the correction. I was a bit hesitant to accept that figure, but I knew that with UW-Mad, anything's really possible. Plus...with this year...and this economy, who friggin knows. Thanks again. Early acceptances should be comin out any day now, people!! :) Anyyy day!


taraberyl



Jan 23, 2010, 12:34 AM

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anyone know/remember what kind of numbers wisconsin put up in the last year or two (since last year was poetry), for comparison?


xataro


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Jan 25, 2010, 9:38 AM

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anyone know/remember what kind of numbers wisconsin put up in the last year or two (since last year was poetry), for comparison?


Sorry, I don't have the answer you're looking for, and it looks like others don't, either. The good news, however, is that Seth's data goes back online February 1, so in a few days, you'll have your best shot at finding out. Here's a link to his blog. Data that is up shows on the right-hand navigation bar.

The Suburban Ecstasies

Good luck!


ghola


Jan 25, 2010, 10:53 AM

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I think last year there were 585 poetry apps. I have no idea about the year before.


bardberry


Jan 25, 2010, 11:58 AM

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What y'all doing to distract yourselves from thinking about disaster? My wife and I are beginning to watch Doctor Who on Netflix streaming. Goofy (in a good way), with some pretty decent acting. Anyone else?


umass76


Jan 25, 2010, 1:19 PM

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Taraberyl,

The 585 number on TSE is a two-genre (2G) number. The last time fiction app numbers were known at UW (prior to this year), the figure was approximately 390 to 400 if I recall correctly (629 this year). The last poetry app numbers known were between 190 and 200. Hence the approximation figure of 585 (2G). UW has generally showed a trend, like most MFA programs, of 2 fiction applications for every 1 poetry application. So the 2G number for UW is now 824 (629 + 195), but that's an under-estimation of the program's popularity, as data trends would suggest UW--having experienced a monumental surge in popularity--could expect around 300 poetry applications next year (when poetry apps are next read by UW), meaning that by the 2011-12 admissions cycle we should expect to see Wisconsin's 2G numbers approaching 1,000, which at this point is a plateau only Iowa and (of late) Texas have reached. That's not surprising, given that current trends are showing Iowa, Texas, and Wisconsin as strong--in fact rock-solid--top 5 programs.

Be well,
Seth


kbritten

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Jan 25, 2010, 1:38 PM

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Wow, super glad that I can't tolerate -50 degree windchills, because I would have applied to Wisconsin and obviously been rejected. Those numbers are ridonculous....

Bardberry - it's funny, because while I certainly check both blogs repeatedly to find out if anyone has been accepted and while I have my phone next to me right now just in case I get a call, I don't really find myself focusing on it too much. After last week came and went without any acceptances, I kind of realized that I'm going to have to get used to waiting. So, I've been working, writing, reading, watching TV, sleeping, among other things. I sent out my applications in early December though, so I've been waiting for a while and I think I'm just kind of used to it now. Oh well.

I would say that people are the best distraction and don't allow yourself to talk about the degree with them. It's nice to be around people who wouldn't know what an MFA is if they didn't have you for a friend :)


Woon


Jan 25, 2010, 1:44 PM

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I've been distracting myself by learning Spanish. I made up flash cards for vocabulary and have been going through conjugation drills. I watch the Spanish TV stations that are prevalent in my area and though I'm usually lost, I've been picking up words and phrases that I used to miss. I find that I don't have time to think about the MFA.

Hasta luego!


bardberry


Jan 25, 2010, 2:05 PM

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I've been distracting myself by learning Spanish. I made up flash cards for vocabulary and have been going through conjugation drills. I watch the Spanish TV stations that are prevalent in my area and though I'm usually lost, I've been picking up words and phrases that I used to miss. I find that I don't have time to think about the MFA.

Hasta luego!



NickMcRae
Nick McRae

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Jan 25, 2010, 2:12 PM

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(I already posted this on TSE and the MFA Blog, but I figured I should put it here, too)

Just letting you all know I was accepted to North Texas' PhD program in poetry today via e-mail!

Not sure if the other acceptances for UNT will be going out today or not, though I doubt it. The director just let me know because he was e-mailing to ask for a CV for a UNT fellowship nomination and thought he'd go ahead and give me the good news while he was at it!

Unsure of funding this early, but ecstatic nonetheless!

Much love,
NM


"You got a song, man, sing it. / You got a bell, man, ring it." - Robert Creeley

Nick McRae
nmcrae1@gmail.com
http://nickmcrae.com/


bardberry


Jan 25, 2010, 2:26 PM

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Weird--guess I hit the wrong button or something cause my reply didn't come through.

That's great about the Spanish! My 3-year-old and 1-year old kids are a 'distraction' as well, but after they go to sleep the demons unlimber...actually, it's not that bad. It's just a big thing (I mean, aside from the prospect of getting in!) because I have a family. Lot's of logistics. Rent or sell the current home, jobs in the new area, daycare, etc.


kbritten

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Jan 25, 2010, 2:54 PM

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DUDE! Resurrect the "I'm In" thread, yo! I'm so excited just to see that! Super congratulations by the way, I'm so excited to finally see some acceptances!


Trilbe



Jan 25, 2010, 2:59 PM

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I second kbritten! Break that mf*er open for the 2010!


NickMcRae
Nick McRae

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Jan 25, 2010, 3:13 PM

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Resurrecting now.

NM


"You got a song, man, sing it. / You got a bell, man, ring it." - Robert Creeley

Nick McRae
nmcrae1@gmail.com
http://nickmcrae.com/


xataro


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Jan 25, 2010, 4:53 PM

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Open season! It's like the beginning of elk season, or something, except there are no guns involved and no animals have to die. And we're the elk, and we want someone to bag us and drag us off. Other than that, it's completely the same.


bergdalea
Abbie J. Bergdale

Jan 25, 2010, 6:18 PM

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What y'all doing to distract yourselves from thinking about disaster? My wife and I are beginning to watch Doctor Who on Netflix streaming. Goofy (in a good way), with some pretty decent acting. Anyone else?



ericweinstein
Eric Weinstein


Jan 25, 2010, 6:20 PM

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What y'all doing to distract yourselves from thinking about disaster? My wife and I are beginning to watch Doctor Who on Netflix streaming. Goofy (in a good way), with some pretty decent acting. Anyone else?



I'm, uh... doing my taxes.


Hans Landa: You'll be shot for this!
Aldo Raine: Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before.


bergdalea
Abbie J. Bergdale

Jan 25, 2010, 6:23 PM

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Weird--guess I hit the wrong button or something cause my reply didn't come through.

That's great about the Spanish! My 3-year-old and 1-year old kids are a 'distraction' as well, but after they go to sleep the demons unlimber...actually, it's not that bad. It's just a big thing (I mean, aside from the prospect of getting in!) because I have a family. Lot's of logistics. Rent or sell the current home, jobs in the new area, daycare, etc.


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