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bergdalea
Abbie J. Bergdale

Jan 18, 2010, 9:21 PM

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A question for anyone who knows:

Potential situation: A school I've applied to decides to offer me acceptance. They call (And I'm pumped), but I have yet to hear from all of my other 15 schools I've applied to. How do I share my excitement, but tactfully withhold any promise of acceptance until further notice?

I, of course, am only dreaming that such an instance will occur. But--with 16 applications, it's certainly possible.

Thanks ahead of time.

P.S. I'm also the kind of person who has to write down the pizza order five different ways and keep the doodling pad within reach to curb my anxiety when the pizza guy actually answers. The nerve of him.


JohnGradyCole


Jan 18, 2010, 10:03 PM

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How about: "I'm completely thrilled, but I still have pending applications with other programs that I'm waiting to hear about. I'll email those programs and update them on my situation and try to get a definitive answer back to you as soon as possible." I'm sure it's not an uncommon response. Plus, hey, it's the truth.

Ooh, I like that answer now that I'm reading over it. I might just save it for myself!


(This post was edited by JohnGradyCole on Jan 18, 2010, 10:06 PM)


bergdalea
Abbie J. Bergdale

Jan 18, 2010, 10:13 PM

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How about: "I'm completely thrilled, but I still have pending applications with other programs that I'm waiting to hear about. I'll email those programs and update them on my situation and try to get a definitive answer back to you as soon as possible." I'm sure it's not an uncommon response. Plus, hey, it's the truth.

Ooh, I like that answer now that I'm reading over it. I might just save it for myself!---

Thank you!! I know it should sound something like that. I am just waiting for the ultimate response to hit me. I suppose when the moment arises...


xataro


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Jan 18, 2010, 10:32 PM

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A question for anyone who knows:

Potential situation: A school I've applied to decides to offer me acceptance. They call (And I'm pumped), but I have yet to hear from all of my other 15 schools I've applied to. How do I share my excitement, but tactfully withhold any promise of acceptance until further notice?

The Council of Graduate Schools has a resolution that lets you have until April 15 to decide. Check the list to see if your schools are on it, and if they are, it won't take them by surprise. Here's a link:

http://www.cgsnet.org/portals/0/pdf/CGS_Resolution.pdf

Hope it helps.


kbritten

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Jan 19, 2010, 8:54 AM

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Anyone else's stomach in knots? I am totally convinced that Alabama will be calling people today (although I'm sure they'll call poets first). It's killing me!


NickMcRae
Nick McRae

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Jan 19, 2010, 9:10 AM

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I seem to remember most calls coming toward the end of any given week last year. This is not based on research, though. Just a vague memory. I could be wrong. Though it would make sense. Seems like most academic committee meetings of any kind tend to happen later in the week. That's been my experience, anyway. I mean, who wants to have meeting on a Monday/Tuesday, when that precious weekend seems oh so far away? Not to be a downer or anything. Just trying to help unknot some stomachs. I'd be thrilled to be proven wrong.

NM


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jimmycorrigan


Jan 19, 2010, 12:16 PM

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As I was reading those last two posts, my phone rang that special long-distance ring and I just about vomited all over myself. Naturally it was a scam call -- vaguely threatening recorded message telling me this was my last chance to reduce my credit card debt. I need to spend less time on these boards. Not that it'll help much. Oh Alabama, you're always on my mind.

On a semi-related note: when you guys check your application status with them, can you see the materials the department has received, or just what the grad school has received? I hope it's just the grad school. If not, they haven't received my writing sample. Ha ahaha haha ha oh god it's not really funny at all.


jessaheath


Jan 20, 2010, 12:21 AM

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The phantom phone calls are brutal... My Bama shows only the grad school requirements that have been received. I included an SASP with my manuscript, which was returned promptly and eased my worries, but there is no way to know if LORs arrived. It seems likely that the dept. will contact us if they need something. Best of luck!


bergdalea
Abbie J. Bergdale

Jan 20, 2010, 9:07 AM

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A question for anyone who knows:

Potential situation: A school I've applied to decides to offer me acceptance. They call (And I'm pumped), but I have yet to hear from all of my other 15 schools I've applied to. How do I share my excitement, but tactfully withhold any promise of acceptance until further notice?

The Council of Graduate Schools has a resolution that lets you have until April 15 to decide. Check the list to see if your schools are on it, and if they are, it won't take them by surprise. Here's a link:

http://www.cgsnet.org/portals/0/pdf/CGS_Resolution.pdf

Hope it helps.--------------
ThAnK YoU! The suggestions were helpful. As I said before, I just HOPE that I have the opportunity to worry about such a thing. It's gettttting clossserrr!


gg.scholastica
Gena Goodman


Jan 20, 2010, 12:39 PM

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I'm actually surprised we've heard as little as we have. Though, I suppose if Bama keeps consistant, we'll hear some screaming admits soon.


kbritten

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Jan 20, 2010, 12:50 PM

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You know, it's funny about Bama. On the one hand, their deadline was pushed back from last year, so I thought for sure they would notify even earlier. But, when I looked at people's lists, it seemed like everyone and their mother's uncle applied there. Someone on the MFA blog also mentioned that they're looking to hire a new faculty member, which could also slow the process. I don't know, this is me guessing out of my asshole, but I don't think they'll be notifying for a while.

Here I am thinking that Florida and Bama were my "best kept secret" schools, and I go online and notice that more people have them on their list than Cornell! At least it seems that way... stay away! ;)


gg.scholastica
Gena Goodman


Jan 20, 2010, 1:15 PM

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Also interesting as to concentration of applications for certain schools... in the fiction lists I've seen posted at TSE, MFA blog, and here, more people are applying to Syracuse than Iowa. I'm sure once you add the poets this breaks down. Any other spikes in applications you've been noticing? Any schools conspicuously absent from most lists this year?


kbritten

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Jan 20, 2010, 1:37 PM

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I noticed that most people had the same "core schools" - Iowa, Cornell, Michener (although it didn't feel like as many people applied there this year, probably because of the impossible admittance rate, which was why I didn't apply there. I don't want to live in Texas either, but I digress...), Syracuse, Bama, and Florida. I didn't notice any other schools being repeated as much. I might be able to Vanderbilt on there, which is also interesting, since they only accept like 3 people each year. I guess that's what a "free" application will do :)

Even top schools like Brown, UMass, and Michigan didn't seem as popular this year. I'm not sure why. I wasn't able to apply to Ohio State or Michigan, but I really wish that I could have, especially now. I mean, my list has that exact "core" sans Michener. I guess I can expect Bama and Florida to break my heart as much as Cornell and Iowa :(

By the way, do you think Bama's famous early acceptance patterns have anything to do with it's popularity? I read a lot of "I wish I applied to Bama" last year, mostly because they wanted to have their news earlier. Bama is a huge surprise to me, mostly because of location. I don't think too highly of Tuscaloosa, although their campus is gorgeous. I thought the prospect of moving to Alabama would be a deterrant for many folks, not that I care, I did my undergrad at Auburn. But many people outside of the South are terrified of it; I really thought that would keep app numbers down.

I don't question Florida's popularity, that one makes perfect sense to me. I will say that Bama and Florida are very similar programs, both offering full funding for four years. I think that's a big reason why they are both so popular.


xataro


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Jan 20, 2010, 2:40 PM

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I was involved in the conversation over on MFA Blog about Syracuse, but I applied in poetry, not fiction. Maybe it's not as bad as you think. We also have to question how much these online places are a representative sample of the overall application patterns.


kbritten

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Jan 20, 2010, 2:53 PM

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I was thinking about that too. The applicants that post their lists on Tom's blog, here, and TSE, are obviously going to be highly swayed by Seth's rankings, etc... I remember Florida being in the "primed for stardom" section of the last-year recap. I remember Alabama being talked about a lot by Seth. So, I'm sure you're right. *takes deep breath and relaxes shoulders*

PS - sorry about the Cardinals, Xataro :)


Colder


Jan 20, 2010, 3:35 PM

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I read that Cornell and Wisconsin have received a record number of applications this year. It's likely that nearly every place has gotten more than before. I think we could see every school notifying later than last year.

We must also remember that while admissions go up, so has Seth's and Kealey's advice. I think more than ever people are applying to 12+ schools than in past years. A lot of that comes from sheer desperation because of the high unemployment rate or job insecurity. A lot of people feel they must get in somewhere this year. So I'm not sure if THAT many more people are applying this year, although there are certainly more due to the economy.

Lucky us, huh? Good timing.


(This post was edited by Colder on Jan 20, 2010, 3:35 PM)


WanderingTree


Jan 20, 2010, 3:44 PM

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Someone had posted an article earlier about admissions offices receiving very strange numbers this year. Some departments at some schools are receiving record numbers (i.e. Business, Law, applied sciences) while other depts. (i.e humanities) are receiving lower than average applications (someone mentioned WUSTL in poetry). At other schools, these numbers might just be reversed (i.e. that article about Iowa seemed odd even though statistically Iowa does have a lot higher acceptance rate than Cornell and Wisconsin). So who knows?

Obsessing over these blogs doesn't help ease the stress. But I just can't stay away!

(This post was edited by WanderingTree on Jan 20, 2010, 3:45 PM)


edamame40
Ray O

Jan 20, 2010, 6:25 PM

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Waaah this is all freaking me out! I feel woefully underapplied, having applied to only 7 schools, almost all of them super-selective. Please, admissions people, don't make me have to wait for next year!!!


Colder


Jan 20, 2010, 6:55 PM

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Someone had posted an article earlier about admissions offices receiving very strange numbers this year. Some departments at some schools are receiving record numbers (i.e. Business, Law, applied sciences) while other depts. (i.e humanities) are receiving lower than average applications (someone mentioned WUSTL in poetry). At other schools, these numbers might just be reversed (i.e. that article about Iowa seemed odd even though statistically Iowa does have a lot higher acceptance rate than Cornell and Wisconsin). So who knows?

Obsessing over these blogs doesn't help ease the stress. But I just can't stay away!


Yeah, the WUSTL post was really curious. I have no idea why they had such a low app count for poetry. Maybe because they were ranked 20th on the PW list?

There was also a post about how Iowa is reporting a drop in grad applications. However, the report was for all of Iowa's grad programs. Somehow I doubt IWW's numbers were lower this year. I'm guessing that any program offering funding and in the top 12 or so on the PW list will be up. Purely speculative on my part however.


WanderingTree


Jan 20, 2010, 7:11 PM

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Indeed, but have you seen the funding package at WUSTL? It's #3 the PW annual funding rank. Sure, St. Louis has its problems (high crime, racial tension etc.) but I'm sure the area around the University is protected in a nice little bubble much like any urban institution.


abcd

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Jan 20, 2010, 10:29 PM

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Hi Wandering Tree--

I'm really curious about the article you mentioned re:application numbers. I can't find it on the forum; could you send me the link or repost it?

Thanks!


WanderingTree


Jan 20, 2010, 11:03 PM

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http://www.citytowninfo.com/career-and-education-news/articles/graduate-schools-report-disparity-in-number-of-applications-09031601

(This post was edited by WanderingTree on Jan 20, 2010, 11:04 PM)


taraberyl



Jan 21, 2010, 2:08 AM

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from this article i would say that the only universities that seem to be suffering in this economy, # of applications-wise, are non-ivy's with crummy funding.
i also think that no article, unless it expressly singles out mfa's, is going to be reliably indicative as to what's really going on with writing programs' admissions, because mfa's are such a small part of most universities (where they exist at all).
i think it's pretty safe to say that mfa apps are up all around - except, maybe, at columbia, where bad funding begets bad press.


abcd

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Jan 21, 2010, 10:00 AM

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Thanks for posting this article. Yeah--it seems like one can't look too much into the numbers from this article, especially b/c it was written back in March before applicants have even applied. I did find a more recent article from that same site dated this month that reports a record number of applicants this year. Though it may not reflect the numbers from our field. ;-)


Yugao


Jan 21, 2010, 1:20 PM

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Michener (although it didn't feel like as many people applied there this year, probably because of the impossible admittance rate, which was why I didn't apply there.


Actually, application levels have gone up significantly at Michener. Last year, there were 750 applications. This year, there are around 1100 applications. Likely the upswing has something to do with the funding rankings P&W published.

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