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SaraBellum


Mar 29, 2007, 3:18 PM

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Re: [jargreen] U of Florida [In reply to] Can't Post

I emailed UF a while back and got a response within a few hours saying that I was on their very short waiting list (poetry).

Maybe they have just been on spring break, or perhaps they have recently had a huge flood of inquiries. I made contact the very first week of March.

Now I'm just dying to know if I'm going to get in off that wait list!!!


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bisoncm


Mar 29, 2007, 4:46 PM

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Montana funding [In reply to] Can't Post

Anyone heard yet about funding from Montana?

I got in for fiction and, like everyone else it seems, don't know much about funding yet. Anyone have any idea when they'll notify people? I believe they're on spring break right now, so I'm guessing it won't be this week.


hamlet3145


Mar 29, 2007, 5:01 PM

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Re: [bisoncm] Montana funding [In reply to] Can't Post

From what I understand of how this works they have already offered funding to some admitted students. Some of these students will take the package and come to Montana and some won't. So then they offer funding to other students on the list and so on. Unfortunately this process can take a while. If you call they will tell you aproximately where you are on the list. (Or at least they used to do this). I'll PM you my list o' how to make Montana (possibly) work without funding too.


jargreen

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Mar 29, 2007, 6:51 PM

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Re: [SaraBellum] U of Florida [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks, SaraBellum. Did you also receive a letter in the mail or a phone call? I'm wondering if, like some other schools, they do not make an attempt to notify their waitlisters until a spot opens up. The thought keeps my spirits up.


alishein


Mar 30, 2007, 6:06 PM

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UVA [In reply to] Can't Post

The UVA rejection letters are on their way...mine showed up today, postmarked 3/29. (I live in DC) Though it wasn't a big surprise.


waiting


Apr 2, 2007, 5:34 PM

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Re: [waiting] Is this strange? [In reply to] Can't Post

Is it just me, or has ASU been pretty quiet? Still waiting to hear and time seems like it's getting short


EastCoastPoet


Apr 2, 2007, 5:42 PM

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Yeah very quiet...maybe we're the only ones who applied from this message board?


hamholio


Apr 2, 2007, 5:45 PM

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Re: [jargreen] U of Florida [In reply to] Can't Post

I got a waitlist email today from UF . . . things might still be up in the air down there.


jargreen

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Apr 2, 2007, 5:52 PM

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I know I'm out at Florida ... just got my rejection letter in Saturday's mail.


hamholio


Apr 2, 2007, 6:01 PM

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Re: [jargreen] U of Florida [In reply to] Can't Post

Ah, sorry! That sucks.


apelavin

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Apr 2, 2007, 6:22 PM

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Is it just me, or has ASU been pretty quiet? Still waiting to hear and time seems like it's getting short



I called ASU earlier this afternoon; they just finalized their lists, and will be notifying everyone shortly. The woman I spoke to was also happy to check my status for me (and she was very sweet and apologetic about the fact that I didn't get in).


waiting


Apr 2, 2007, 7:13 PM

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Re: [apelavin] Is this strange? [In reply to] Can't Post

What genre did you apply in? I'm trying to get in in fiction. Thanks for the info.


Fear&Loathing


Apr 2, 2007, 7:24 PM

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In at Texas State. But on the waiting list for TAship.


apelavin

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Apr 2, 2007, 7:33 PM

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What genre did you apply in? I'm trying to get in in fiction. Thanks for the info.



I applied in fiction as well, but in any case the woman I spoke to said that she had lists for all genres. Good luck!


jargreen

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Apr 2, 2007, 8:04 PM

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DEBT [In reply to] Can't Post

With the news that UMass Amherst's money has dried up, meaning that waitlisters like me will have to pay entirely out of pocket, I want your thoughts on debt. I'm aware that the common wisdom is that one should never pay a dime for an MFA degree ... but would anyone here, like me, consider going into greater debt for this fantastic opportunity? In the three years since I returned to college to finish up my Bachelor's, I've accumulated over $50,000 in student aid debt. Would it be insane to allow that number to increase to, say, $75K, or should I not worry about debt and simply pursue my dream?


Vivien


Apr 2, 2007, 8:14 PM

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I don't think any MFA program is worth going into debt for. You may have different priorities than I do, though.


BlueVelveeta


Apr 2, 2007, 8:32 PM

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Re: [jargreen] DEBT [In reply to] Can't Post

Whether or not to increase your debt is a highly personal decision. Before you begin really weighing your options, I'd advise you to call UMass and ask them directly about the availability of funding now, projected financial resources over the next three years, and the likelihood of securing funding as a second-year student. That will help give you a clearer picture of the level of debt you're facing.

After you have a rough idea of how much debt you'd be likely to assume, you can make a more informed decision. Don't let your eagerness to begin a program override your future happiness---remember that until you've been living with debt for a couple of years, you really can't comprehend how its presence not only weighs on you but also limits your future choices. It can be helpful to consult a few online financial calculators to determine what your monthly loan payments will actually cost you for the next 10 to 20 years (finding out that an extra $25,000 in loans amounts to an extra $200 a month in debt repayment could influence your decision) and how much interest you will ultimately end up paying on the additional loan (I know that, when you've already accrued some debt, it's easy to think, "Hey, what's another couple grand?" Just remember, going from $50k to $75k in debt amounts to a 50% higher amount on which you'll be accruing interest and making payments for the next 20 years).

Furthermore, if you do accept the debt, you will be taking classes alongside peers that have been giving TAships, fellowships, and scholarships. There's at least a chance that you may resent this disparity as you realize you are undertaking a debt they have avoided for the same MFA.

My advice would be to go with any existing offers of funding or to reapply next year. If you are patient, you are likely to find a program that is happy to shoulder some of the financial burden for your MFA.

Good luck!


bighark


Apr 2, 2007, 8:51 PM

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Re: [jargreen] DEBT [In reply to] Can't Post

Well first of all, congratulations on the Amherst waitlist. That's a very fine program, and to have made it as far as you have says something about the faculty's belief in your writing.

Again, congratulations.

I truly hope that the funding issues clear up at Amherst. Having to pay for an MFA is obviously not ideal, but you already know that.

So are there other people out there who would take on more debt? Absolutely!

Should you be one of them? Maybe.

I don't know about your personal situation, jargreen, but if there's some great urgency, then maybe borrowing is the right choice. Some students have a short window (real or imagined) where going to school full time is practical. Maybe you have parental pressure, plans to marry or start a family, or just personal goals. In those cases, it makes sense to accept an unfunded spot because you may not get the chance again.

If there's no great urgency, though, perhaps you should try for another spot next year. Instead of borrowing several thousand dollars, maybe you could take a class or attend a retreat or otherwise invest in your writing.

Good luck


jargreen

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Apr 2, 2007, 9:59 PM

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UMass says they have "exhausted our financial resources and then some." I get the impression that some of the ten people they accepted did not receive a TAship, and no one coming off the waitlist appears to have a shot. It would seem to be a pretty big risk to go to Amherst and shell out $25K my first year there, with the hope that I might obtain a TAship the second year. But I've got nothing better to do.


ellen362


Apr 2, 2007, 11:24 PM

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You might consider deferring for a year and working to pay down some debt. Maybe next year they could offer you tuition money? It also depends on how much you can reasonably expect to be making. Good luck.


jargreen

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Apr 2, 2007, 11:50 PM

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Ellen362, I was just about to ask that question! Is one able to defer admission if they come off the waitlist? Hmm ... this could get complicated.


gcsumfa


Apr 3, 2007, 12:31 AM

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25K is a lot of debt for an MFA. How old are you and/or what's your situation?

Next year will be here before you know it...heck, you'd start your 08 apps in 4-5 months.

If you're good enough to be waitlisted at UMASS, you should definitely not have to pay a dime for a resident MFA program.

Just my two cents, but as someone with an MFA right now, I can promise you that the degree will not even come close to returning your investment, $$-wise.

I'm very lucky to have a teaching gig that pays high-20's. High 20's/low 30's is the best you can expect for a non-tenure track post-MFA freshman comp gig (I probably shouldn't assume that you'll teach after your MFA, but based on my experience that's what most of my MFA peers get into..at least for awhile...or editing). That yearly salary would equal your debt for just one year. I know an MFA is an art degree and it's easy to not worry about debt, but the post-MFA world is a cold, cold, place--trust me--and two years from now that loan could be a bear to pay off.


(This post was edited by gcsumfa on Apr 3, 2007, 12:33 AM)


MajikMan


Apr 3, 2007, 4:05 AM

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In at Maryland [In reply to] Can't Post

Found out today, after a phone call about my waitlist status, that I was in at Maryland. There's no funding available (as it was explained, most students are second year....there were 1.5 TA positions available to new students), so it's not quite a sure thing yet. Michael Collier made it seem like it will be easy to get comparable funding through other university work...hopefully that's the case.

Either way, after having been rejected from Ohio State, New Hampshire, Penn State, Washington U and Syracuse, it feels very good to get some recognition. I'm still waiting to get rejection letters form Bowling Green and Purdue.


jaywalke


Apr 3, 2007, 8:28 AM

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I've accumulated over $50,000 in student aid debt. Would it be insane to allow that number to increase to, say, $75K, or should I not worry about debt and simply pursue my dream?


That depends. Do you have a desire to own your own home? Do you want to buy a new-ish car? Raise children? How about retirement--are you interested in that?

Don't go deeper into debt for a degree that might (MIGHT!) allow you to get a 30K per year teaching gig. Debt like that makes everything else harder than it needs to be.


soozybleu


Apr 3, 2007, 8:28 AM

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UMass says they have "exhausted our financial resources and then some." I get the impression that some of the ten people they accepted did not receive a TAship, and no one coming off the waitlist appears to have a shot. It would seem to be a pretty big risk to go to Amherst and shell out $25K my first year there, with the hope that I might obtain a TAship the second year. But I've got nothing better to do.



I know someone who just declined at UMass. But I know that before he made his decision, he was looking at the fact that you can teach at any of (I think) 5 affiliated schools to help fund your MFA there. (He knew TA positions within the Writing Center were pretty competitive.)

Edited to say: I THINK this information's correct. But don't take it as gospel. :)


(This post was edited by soozybleu on Apr 3, 2007, 8:30 AM)

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