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ellen362


Apr 15, 2009, 4:35 PM

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Re: [loaf] Congrats! [In reply to] Can't Post

Called Denver yesterday- they already sent their first round of acceptances and will send letters to the rest of us next week.


GDClark
George David Clark
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Apr 18, 2009, 6:09 PM

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LesK,

Sorry for the slow response. The funding at Tech is privately endowed, so the fellowship should be consistant for incomming PhDs in years to come.

I think you're right, those schools that rely on the state for grad student funding (places like Houston and Western Michigan) are in a hard place now, one that could be even worse next year (as this year's numbers drive the budget down).


MattieGrace


Apr 20, 2009, 1:33 PM

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Here's the skinny with DU. They offered 4 writer's positions. 2 had not responded (as of about a week ago). There is a waiting list of seven. I am one of the seven; though, I have no idea where on that list I am. April 27th is supposed to be the official day that we are responded to by Scott Howard.


ellen362


Apr 28, 2009, 6:04 PM

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Anyone heard lately from Denver?


gloselle


May 3, 2009, 10:28 AM

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Low-Residency CW PhD? [In reply to] Can't Post

Is there such a thing as a low-residency PhD in Creative Writing?

I'm not able to relocate, but I do have time to write and a desire to work to improve.

Any suggestions, anyone?


GDClark
George David Clark
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May 3, 2009, 11:38 AM

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Low residency is an option at most schools after coursework is completed, but I don't know of any creative program that doesn't require residency for those first couple years.


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May 3, 2009, 11:56 AM

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There is one -- Union? A little research ought to pick it up. I think Jane Wohl got her PhD through them.


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IrisAnn

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May 14, 2009, 10:09 PM

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Re: [freeverses] creative writing ph.d. ? [In reply to] Can't Post

I ran a search on the AWP writing website, and didn't really come up with any PhD programs in NYC schools. Do they exist THERE? it's looking like its not an option for me for my MFA....


umass76


May 15, 2009, 2:29 AM

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Re: [IrisAnn] creative writing ph.d. ? [In reply to] Can't Post

The closest are SUNY-Albany or SUNY-Binghamton (i.e. Binghamton University).

Be well,
Seth

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H_SCAR


Jun 17, 2009, 11:43 AM

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Re: [gloselle] Low-Residency CW PhD? [In reply to] Can't Post

Gloselle:

Off the top of my head there are two PhD in Creative Writing Programs in the UK that do not require your physical presence. The first--and hardest to find a spot at--is the University of Lancaster (or Lancaster University). The other is the University of Wales, Bangor. They seem interested in accepting as many qualified applicants as they can.
Best,
Seth


umass76


Jun 17, 2009, 6:17 PM

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Just to be clear: I guess H_SCAR is a "Seth," but I'm a different Seth (so no one gets confused).

Be well,
Seth (Abramson)


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Jun 17, 2009, 10:36 PM

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I may have to perform a forensic syntactic analysis just to be sure.


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jaywalke


Jun 18, 2009, 9:54 AM

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Just to be clear: I guess H_SCAR is a "Seth," but I'm a different Seth (so no one gets confused).

Be well,
Seth (Abramson)


If one of you left, would it be a sethsession?


H_SCAR


Jun 18, 2009, 10:16 AM

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I can now confirm that I am, in fact, another person bearing the name of Seth.

Good to _see_ you again, Seth. Last time we were posting you were considering UK PhDs--l'd be curious to know if you ended up over here or elsewhere.

S


umass76


Jun 20, 2009, 12:22 AM

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Hi Seth,

I'm heading out to Madison to start the Ph.D. program @ University of Wisconsin-Madison (English Literature w/ Internal Minor in Creative Writing). Hope you're well,

Seth


H_SCAR


Jun 24, 2009, 11:38 AM

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That's great, Seth. I suppose you'll have to become a Packers fan, though.
Best of luck in advance.


jacarty
Jessie Carty
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Jun 28, 2009, 7:40 PM

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Creative Writing PhD Looking for 2010 [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm been off the message board for a while but I'm jumping back in as I start my research for PhD programs for entry Fall of 2010.

Some questions as I am starting out.

1-When do you suggest taking the GRE? And how long did you study for it?
2-For the critical part of the application. Do you think schools prefer one long work or could you include several short critical essays? (Trying to decide if I should just start something new)
3-Am I nuts for considering this? My husband and I are both 34 and ready for a change. I have my MFA, a chapbook and a few (mostly poetry) publications here and there as well as an online zine I hosted for a year as well as some other projects. We will have to go to a place with decent funding, I want to get more experience teaching as my MFA was low-res (although I've taught some privately), and we just want to start somewhere new. It will be fun seeing what kind of job the spouse can find!

Anyway, just thought I'd start the talking back up and see what advice I could get.


Of the 37 from the AWP list, I've only removed 5 so far. Argh!


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Tabby


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Jun 29, 2009, 10:02 AM

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Welcome to the exciting prospect higher, higher ed! I start OU in the fall.

1. Get it over with as soon a possible. Wait, do mean general or the Lit test? Your GRE scores from the MFA might still be valid. My personal approach was to not crack a book and not waste my time. I personally believe the ETS is a money racket and that profs know this, too. One prof (as directly as he could) even told me not to sweat it. 3 top progs (OU, FSU and UNL) don't even ask for the Lit test. Although now that I think about it, I got in progs that don't require the Lit GRE and didn't get those that did. Maybe my sucky scores didn't help! But really, I don't believe it mattered.


2. I would stick with one longer work to prove you can maintain critical thought on a subject. By longer I mean @ 15 pages. I polished up a paper from a lit class I took during my MFA. Admittedly, not a great paper, but it proved I can write "lit speak." Sort of. I'll be curious to find out if the lit faculty is even in on the admission process.

3. Do you mean nuts in terms of a PhD in creative writing is nuts? Um, this thread might be the wrong place to ask. I, for one, am completely excited about five funded years and the chance to be part of a writing community again. Or do you mean nuts in terms of are you qualified? You seem super qualified. You even have some pubs. My instinct, was that in the SOP they want to see you are directed.

I definitely recommend going back and reading this thread. You'll find some good insider info, and some contacts if you want the scoop on particular progs.


http://www.kellykathleenferguson.com


jacarty
Jessie Carty
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Jun 29, 2009, 10:33 AM

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Thanks Tabby!

I have been reading back through the forum and congrats on OU! I loved reading about your journey :)

My MFA program did not require the GRE so I have to take it, and it is the scariest part of the whole idea for me! I should probably sign up for it pretty soon and get it out of the way.

I feel a little nuts about essentially starting over at 34 years old but I really relish the idea of getting time to really live in the world of literature in all aspects.

Thanks for the tip on the paper. I have one that is almost 10 pages that I might be able to flesh out for the critical part - an examination of Poetic Closure.


http://jessiecarty.com


Tabby


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Jun 29, 2009, 11:23 AM

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Hey,

With the reg GRE it's probably worth looking over the verbal and maybe practicing a couple of the essay Q's. But man, did I bomb the math. Honestly, I just pushed random buttons as fast as I could. The advantage of the computer test is you can move on to the next section if you want.

Yep. Just pay the money and do the deed. And make plans for a delicious lunch with pie after. Remember the ETS is evil and that despite them, you are a good person.

K


http://www.kellykathleenferguson.com


jacarty
Jessie Carty
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Jun 29, 2009, 11:26 AM

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and then pie :) excellent!


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gcsumfa


Jun 29, 2009, 1:58 PM

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I feel a little nuts about essentially starting over at 34 years old but I really relish the idea of getting time to really live in the world of literature in all aspects.


In my PhD program, there are several people between 30-40. I actually think it's quite common to find 30 somethings in PhD programs. The average age of a new asst. professor in English is probably mid to late 30's to early 40's. You'll be fine.


(This post was edited by gcsumfa on Jun 29, 2009, 1:58 PM)


jacarty
Jessie Carty
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Jun 29, 2009, 2:37 PM

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thanks :)

nothing like being the oldest person in the room!
which wasn't true during my MFA but you just never know when you take it to the next level.

My list is now down to about 20 schools. Continuing to chip them away.


http://jessiecarty.com


HollinsMFAer
Luke Johnson


Jul 3, 2009, 1:46 PM

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Same boat as Jessie. Thinking about applying for programs to start in Fall 2010. I love the idea of not having to take the Lit GRE and just re-using the scores for the General test. Other than the programs Tabby mentioned, does anyone know other schools that don't require a Lit GRE?

My tenatives, to be weaned down, any input would be greatly appreciated. Funding is a priority:

Cincinnati
Missouri
Nebraska-Lincoln
Houston
Wisconsin-Madison (Lit w/ Creative Dissertation)
Utah
Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
FSU
Binghamton
Illinois-Chicago
Tennessee

It feels strangely nice to be posting as an applicant again...


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LesK
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Jul 3, 2009, 1:55 PM

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Hi Jessie,

Wanted to add my two cents...which might be worth slightly more.

First off, I wouldn't worry about age. If you can swing the finances and the (potential) change in lifestyle, go for it. I'm 34 and starting at U. Cincinnati in the Fall. So, as long as the spouse is on board...and that's a big one....I think it's a great way to get better, work in a community, and sharpen your critical acumen.

As for your questions:

1) I studied a lot for both the GRE and the GRE Lit. The GRE Lit is an evil, evil course, and even though I agree with Tabby that ETS is a bit of a racket. I'd recommend throwing some energy into it. The scores won't be anywhere near as important as your writing samples, which are obviously key, but why give 'em any reason, any reason at all to doubt your ability?

That said, it won't make any difference whatsoever if the selection comittee doesn't like your writing samples.

But yeah, the sooner the better, so you can spend more time on the samples and your letter of intent.

2) Go with one longer essay, definitely. I think the idea is to prove that your capable/will be capable of producing critical work that's publishable with a little help from your Department....

The essay on poetic closure sounds intriguing....definitely try to flesh that one out!

Make sure (particularly if you choose to apply to Cincinnati) to include a touch of theory. You don't have to have Cixous rolling off your tongue, but some clear indication that you can read, understand, and apply theory is important (and I'm paraphrasing an email I got here). Also, I'm certain that many selection committees include English (as well as CW) profs. After all, it's not merely a CW degree....right?

3) From what I've seen, the profiles of those who get acceptance letters is remarkably impressive. Cincinnati (and I think a number of other schools) actually asks for CVs, so your chapbook, poetry publications, and ezine shoud prove extremely useful.... and it's not unheard of, I believe, for poets with book publications under the belt to go this route...

Good luck and feel free to pm me if you have questions about Cincy.

Les

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