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shoe1234


Apr 2, 2009, 1:12 AM

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Jacksonbliss,

Congrats on your acceptance. Cherish it. Consider it one of your finest moments. You worked for it. You earned it.

I'm at USC right now, also in fiction. A wonderful program. Wonderful professors and wonderful students. Hopefully you'll be visiting next Monday (I think that's the day). You're in for a good time.

Again, congrats.


LesK
Les
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Apr 2, 2009, 1:35 AM

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Jacksonbliss,

Oh no:

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Congrats, and celebrate your acceptance. 1/1 means you're a 100%, and for PhD programs, that's pretty much insane

I'm a little older (I think). It's been ~10 years since my MFA. I applied right out of grad school to 2(?) programs. 0/2. Last year, I applied to 4 programs. 1/4, but no funding. So, 2/7. That's a little more reasonable, no?

But this year. Yes. Slightly insane. I'd strongly advise against ever doing that if you can avoid it. For me, that decision had to do with several outside factors (notably, housing crisis). But it worked out! And it's so rad.

Also:

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If they'll let me, I'll def. take a workshop with Mark Irwin or David St. John too.

And Carol Muske-Dukes! That program is nuts.


(This post was edited by LesK on Apr 2, 2009, 1:37 AM)


jacksonbliss


Apr 2, 2009, 2:17 AM

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Shoe, I remember reading your posts from last year, and you gave me hope for sure since I was on the waitlist until today. I'm looking forward to seeing you around campus next year. I'd totally go to the meet-n-greet but I'm in Buenos Aires until mid-April, and then I'm traveling with my g/f for a month before kicking it in Chicago for the summer. I'm so happy you love the program, that's a good sign. How's the teaching load? Are you mad busy? What's the deal with the 2nd year exam? What's that all about? Have you taken any workshops? Any classes worth mentioning? I'd love to hear about your impressions from your first year, or about LA. USC seems like a rad program, and I'm really looking forward to this step in my writing career.

Lesk, I totally understand. It's a blessing to get into a PhD program right now with our shit economy and housing collapse, and I'm glad that this time, the numbers worked in your favor. That's a great thing. It really is. I'm also older--34, soon to be 35, and I'm stoked that we get 4-6 years to write, read + evolve. And they're paying us for that. Fucking insane really.


Tabby


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Apr 2, 2009, 11:11 AM

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Congrats jacksonbliss!

I worked with Aimee Bender as a visiting writer and she is not only rad, but awesome. Great writing insight AND fun to hang out with.

I'm feeling a bit stunned over the concept of having the next five years of my life mapped out myself. And after the lit coursework is done, it's pretty much writing time. Crazy. Crazy good, that is. I'm pretty happy to hide out while the economy (hopefully) sorts itself out. I might even buy a house and plant a victory garden.

At this point I'm planning on OU, which is feeling like the right place for me. I still haven't heard a peep from FSU, but I'm assuming I'm too far down the waitlist to be a candidate for funding. I took myself off the funding waitlist at UNL but if the list is really 20 people long, that might not help anyone so much.

Maybe we should put together a creative writing PhD panel for AWP next year. You know, resume builders and all.


http://www.kellykathleenferguson.com


LesK
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Apr 2, 2009, 11:17 AM

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Tabby,


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Maybe we should put together a creative writing PhD panel for AWP next year. You know, resume builders and all.


I'd suggest running the idea by Seth of TSE fame (depending on the angle you mean). Also, what's a resume? Henceforth, CV! (Well, at least starting in September).


Tabby


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Apr 2, 2009, 11:37 AM

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LesK,

You are so word savvy! CV it is. Dang, I feel grown up y'all.

Don't really have in angle. It was just a random morning coffee idea. Probably someone has done one before, but since AWP seems to be mostly MFAers, I bet they would like to talk with people who are actually enrolled at a cross section of PhD programs. I would have. Maybe Seth could be pulled in for a "what are my chances" segment.

If I remember (if...) and then if I get a better idea, I'll come back to the boards and maybe pm some people. I just think it would be fun to meet. That's what life as a future creative writing faculty is all about, right? Fabricating excuses to siphon university funds so we can meet friends and travel, and — errr — discuss pedagogical outcomes.

Probably for now we should focus on U Hauls and craigslist. Oh, and celebrating!


http://www.kellykathleenferguson.com


cantonioni


Apr 2, 2009, 11:38 AM

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YAY! YAYYAYYAYYAYYAY!
Congrats, Jacksonbliss & LesK!


jacksonbliss


Apr 2, 2009, 12:28 PM

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Cantonioni,

Thanks so much.

Tabby et al.,

I'm in. Maybe we could organize a group reading of writers from different PhD programs; or create a Q + A session. It's an interesting idea.


unsaid78


Apr 2, 2009, 12:49 PM

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As a future MFA student/AWP attendee, I know I would want to attend a panel like that so there's my vote of support for the idea. I love this thread! I wish you all the best in your programs!


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loaf

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Apr 4, 2009, 8:19 PM

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First, congrats to LesK and jacksonbliss!

I am in the midst of my tour of UNL and Utah. Stuck in an airport right now, actually. If anyone is no longer interested in UNL, please take yourself off the list! I want some funding and was told that I have a very good chance of getting some if someone declines. I really, really enjoyed my visit. I think the program is a good fit for me.

But still have to visit Utah, and I'm really stoked about their program. So it will all be decided in a few days. Eek!

Tabby, I think your panel idea sounds great and you can count me in!

I still haven't heard from Denver, UNLV and Ohio, but at this point, I'm not expecting much and I think UNL or Utah would be good choices for me. I'm so glad this whole thing is going to be all over and decided soon!


LesK
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Apr 5, 2009, 10:12 AM

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loaf,

Thanks much! I'm signing my commit letter today. :-)

Glad to hear that the UNL visit went so well, and I hope they find that funding for you soon! Also, I hope the Utah visit goes well for you (even if only as a little vacation). Keep us posted when you decide!


loaf

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Apr 7, 2009, 2:51 AM

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Well, I really liked UNL's program, but nothing beats funding, and that gut feeling of finding the place that just feels right.

I've made my decision; to Utah I shall go! I've had a great visit so far, and all my fears of SLC have been assuaged. Now apartment hunting! And, of course, a huge sigh of relief.


Tabby


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Apr 7, 2009, 11:15 AM

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Congrats on your decision! It must be a relief. I'm watching Big Love right now, which I'm sure will be very similar to your experience. *joke*

Funding has much to do with that gut feeling. Funding is the point, really. Although I was also willing to consider the job, hope for funding later route etc. if nothing else came through.

I'm 98% Ohio. (Already looking at houses) I wouldn't mind just a peep out of FSU, for closure's sake. I've sent emails but maybe I'll try and call. Blech. Hate calling. Probably that's because I'm 1) phone phobic and 2) calling to find out "no." Because we all know when a program wants you, they find you. You know what this feels like? Like I've been seeing a guy and he's gone that extra day or so without calling, so I know the deal, but still I'm going to make him say it to my face.

Say it to my face FSU!


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abcd

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Apr 8, 2009, 1:55 AM

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Tabby I read your post this morning and both laughed out loud and felt for you. I, too, have heard nothing from fsu and with you heartily say, "Say it to my face FSU!"

On another note, a post just came in about Denver Ph.D. on the grad cafe. Someone said: "I contacted a professor and he said I am on a list of 7 candidates who are on a waitlist. They offered 4 positions, 2 are still "available" because he has not yet heard from them."

AWP panel discussion is an excellent idea. We should pool resources, see if a few faculty members would like to talk up their programs maybe, too. I'm in.


gcsumfa


Apr 9, 2009, 2:15 AM

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First of all, congrats to all who have received acceptances!

RE: AWP panel.

I've seen a few on PhD/CW programs over the last few years. At the 2006 AWP (Austin), there was a panel about PhD programs; the director of the Utah program led the panel (forget her name).


Tabby


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Apr 9, 2009, 11:40 AM

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Just said "I do" to OU.

My palms are sweaty. Commitment issues.

Re: Panel. I figured there had already been one (or maybe two) but didn't see one on the 2009 schedule or remember one at NYC. Since MFAs clean house every 2-3 years I was thinking it could be time to trot out another one. Or if they say no, they say no. No biggee.


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LesK
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Apr 9, 2009, 11:53 AM

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Tabby,

Congrats on OU! It'll be awesome, I'm sure.

About the panel:

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Re: Panel. I figured there had already been one (or maybe two) but didn't see one on the 2009 schedule or remember one at NYC. Since MFAs clean house every 2-3 years I was thinking it could be time to trot out another one. Or if they say no, they say no. No biggee.


I suspect it might be better to think of different angles from which to approach the subject. I would think the primary audience would be faculty at MFA programs (rather than the MFAers themselves), so maybe the angle could be something along the lines of: How does one, ideally, prepare students for the PhD? How do you treat students who may not view the MFA as terminal and have academic aspirations differently from those who do? Etc. I suspect, for example, that many teachers of undergrad CW and English students are already well positioned to counsel students applying for an MA/MFA. I'm not sure that's the case as much with MFA's (though this will vary depending on the prof, the program, and maybe, now...as opposed to when I got my MFA a long time ago.)

But that's just one idea among many out there. I do think it's feasible, but as gcsumfa suggests, more research is warranted to avoid simply repeating panels like the one in '06.

Anyone else have thoughts?


(This post was edited by LesK on Apr 9, 2009, 11:55 AM)


gcsumfa


Apr 9, 2009, 12:07 PM

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Re: Panel. I figured there had already been one (or maybe two) but didn't see one on the 2009 schedule or remember one at NYC. Since MFAs clean house every 2-3 years I was thinking it could be time to trot out another one. Or if they say no, they say no. No biggee.


I hear ya. I just meant that, maybe you all could email the lead panelist for her notes or any handouts used? The panel should be listed in the 2006 AWP program.


chitown


Apr 9, 2009, 2:08 PM

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LesK- Congrats on Cincy! I was hoping you applied this year. I'm sure you will love it.

And as for ULL- after emailing several people, finally someone got back to me today. The 5/K is some sort of stipend awarded to people who do not teach. What I was awarded was a teaching assistantship that pays $12/K a year for two courses a semester. Just wanted to clear that up in case anyone is thinking of applying there. It seems like pretty standard funding. Not great, but not awful.


LesK
Les
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Apr 9, 2009, 3:16 PM

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Thanks, chitown!

So that funding sounds way better than I thought, and yeah about average. Is ULL your destination then, chitown?


GDClark
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Apr 14, 2009, 9:12 AM

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My wife and I finally made our decision over the weekend. We'll be headed to Texas Tech this fall. I've notified the other schools so spots will be opening up at USC, Houston, and UGA if there are any poets out there waiting.

I can't say enough good things about the USC program and the people there, but I wanted a school with more teaching opportunities and financial security. *For anyone out there considering PhD programs next year, Tech is now, as of a couple weeks ago, offering a fellowship for incoming PhDs that approaches 30k (with no teaching responsibilities for the first year).

About the possible panel: I'm not sure it should be primarily directed at current faculty/administration. I know I would have gone to such a panel as an MFA student trying to figure out what my options were post-graduation. (And let's face it, there are a lot more students attending panels than faculty/administration.) Consider the number of people applying for the Stegner compared to those applying for PhDs. Yes, a lot of that is based on the Stegner's prestige/spotlight, but, in terms of the actual package (financial/faculty/teaching opportunities/degree/etc), there are several PhDs out there that seem more attractive, at least to me. I wouldn't have thought that a year ago because I had no idea what was really out there. I don't know that enough people think of the PhD as a serious option, and it could be helpful to hear a case made for how such programs not only offer more funded time to write but also help qualify you teach lit and theory classes in addition to workshops. How the MFA is less-and-less a truly terminal degree, and how a PhD might set you apart from the thousands of MFAs our country produces every year.


Tabby


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Apr 14, 2009, 10:47 AM

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Congrats on your decision! That is a pretty sweet financial package.

I admit, my PhD motivations were pretty much to land a funded position to write as well. (the lit crit, not so much, but I can do it. beats working). For me (seasoned artist poorling) $15K for a part time job, with travel money and health insurance for 5 years is pretty good. I have freelance writing/teaching income but it's not reliable. I came out of my MFA knowing what I need to do and now I need time to do it. I've been fending off that soul-sucking job for writing time and basically sinking into debt. I know it's bad when I can't wait to get back in grad school to be financially sound!

So sure, the PhD is like a Stegner. Only less competitive and with more time. OU doesn't offer quite as much $, but given the cost of living (Ohio/Bay Area) it's not bad. And when I applied for the Stegner I laughed to myself (silly me!) as I wrote out that $60 check, whereas wtih my PhD applications, I felt like a serious contender.

TT. No Country For Good Men country, right?


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LesK
Les
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Apr 14, 2009, 10:58 AM

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Wow. 30 k?!?! In this economy? Do you know from whence the money comes? State monies (given the economy) have started to make me a bit nervous...and I suspect that knowledge may impact decisions for people applying next year (as it seems to have at FSU this year). So is that from a mighty large private endowment, the state of Texas, or some strange combination?

Most importantly, though....Congrats, GD! I'm sure Tech will be a phenomenal place for you to grow as a poet, scholar, teacher, etc.


kvandegraaf


Apr 14, 2009, 11:52 AM

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Wow, lots of news on here lately! Congrats to everyone who has recently made a decision. It's so gratifying to know that this application season has worked out well for so many people on PW.

As some of you know, I've definitely decided on UW-Milwaukee for the fall. I thought I had posted this here before, but I guess not! The students and professors at UWM all seem like genuinely nice and lovely people. The faculty appear to be invested in the work of graduate students, and the department takes creative writing very seriously. In fact, the CW department at UWM is larger than their lit department! I heard about lots of innovative community projects involving poetry and the Milwaukee area based in the English department -- everything from poetry on the sides of buses to menu inserts at local restaurants. There are opportunities to work on translation projects at UWM, as well as the opportunity to gain reading/editorial experience at Cream City Review.

Also, they were able to put together a TA + fellowship package for my first year that carried over $25,000. That Texas Tech fellowship is really nice, though, because it doesn't include teaching responsibilities the first year! Personally, I didn't know Texas Tech funded so well either. I think the lack of firsthand information about many of these programs is really frustrating as an applicant. I'm hoping this information might be useful to people interested in applying to PhD programs in future years.

Speaking of future applicants...we have representatives from PW at many CW PhD programs now, and I think it would be great if we all came back to post a paragraph or so about what it's actually like in the program once we arrive. I know I would have found anecdotal information really helpful when I was deciding where to apply, even if it is the perspective of only one person. There's so much information on the boards about MFA programs (which is great for the PhD programs that also have MFA's), but many doctoral programs in CW offer the much less popular MA in creative writing instead. In these cases, there's a lot less information to go on.

Good luck to everyone in their new academic homes! It was so nice waiting it out with you all.


loaf

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Apr 15, 2009, 12:21 PM

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Sure, sure, for the rest of the world it's Tax Day (okay, for us too, I guess), but we know what day it really is: Decision Day! I have made the decision to go to Utah, but I still never heard a peep from Ohio, UNLV or Denver. I know this probably means I didn't get in, and at this point it doesn't matter since I'm so happy with my decision, but I still expected to hear back from all ten places by now.

Have the rest of you made a decision? Congrats to all of us, for surviving this process.

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