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fuzen


Mar 6, 2007, 1:43 PM

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Don't forget Southen Mississippi, which offers an M.A. and a Ph.D. for creative writing, and offers full funding, with great teachers.

My roommate got a waitlist notice for poetry at USC yesterday. I got a call from FSU last Wednesday for fiction Ph.D. I haven't heard yet from Houston, but I'm thinking I'll be at FSU come Fall.



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Two more programs while I'm at it:

University of North Dakota
University of Connecticut-Storrs

Those (in addition to the list) were the only others I could find.



bktv


Mar 6, 2007, 4:14 PM

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Well, that's a double ouch, but thanks for the info. Come quickly rejection letters...


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My roommate got a waitlist notice for poetry at USC yesterday. I got a call from FSU last Wednesday for fiction Ph.D. I haven't heard yet from Houston, but I'm thinking I'll be at FSU come Fall.

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gcsumfa


Mar 6, 2007, 4:29 PM

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Texas Tech left a message for me yesterday while I was out, so I'm hoping I'm in there. We're playing phone tag right now. Stephen Graham Jones teaches there, they have awesome funding, and they allow you to teach literature and CW. No income tax in TX, either.

I was rejected by UGA, but that's probably a blessing in disguise, as I hear a lot of sketchy things about that place, one being that the there is strife between CW and Lit, and the other being that to apply, you have to be accepted into the Lit program first. I had to write two personal statements and send two sets of materials to two places (Lit and CW). For all I know the lit people rejected me just on my poor GRE Lit scores.

Waiting to hear from:

Ohio
Nebraska
Denver
Tenn
FSU (they didn't have all of my transcripts until the other day).


fuzen


Mar 6, 2007, 4:55 PM

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For USC, you can e-mail cwphd@usc.edu and ask Pam if you're in or not. They've already made their decisions. (Though, if you haven't heard by now, it probably doesn't bode well.)

According to Pam, they received 80 applications this year, an "unusually large number." I know Iowa got 700+ applications this year, and Mark Winegardner at FSU told me this year was particularly difficult with admissions decisions. It's hard to judge competitiveness for programs like USC and FSU based on the number of applicants, since people who apply to creative writing Ph.D. programs are people who have M.A.s or M.F.A.s, and are likely more experienced and serious writers.

Best of luck with the other programs! If you're looking for a quick backup plan, though, you might want to look into Southern Miss (www.centerforwriters.com). We have rolling admissions (in fact, you can still apply for Fall 2007) and I love the program here. For a $15k Ph.D. stipend you had to have applied by March 1st, but if you're really interested, I'd suggest e-mailing or calling Rie Fortenberry (601) 266-5600 and asking her if you can still qualify. The people here are really easy going and laid back and I wouldn't be surprised if they said okay. What they want are student who show they care about writing, more so than students who show they can be clever about their writing. Does that make sense?

In any case, keep writing, and good luck!



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Well, that's a double ouch, but thanks for the info. Come quickly rejection letters...


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My roommate got a waitlist notice for poetry at USC yesterday. I got a call from FSU last Wednesday for fiction Ph.D. I haven't heard yet from Houston, but I'm thinking I'll be at FSU come Fall.

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fuzen


Mar 6, 2007, 5:09 PM

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For what it's worth, my best friend here did his M.A. at TTU and he says wonderful things about Stephen Graham Jones as a teacher. I've also had the opportunity to work with Stephen through a small lit journal I publish, and he's just a great guy to correspond with. Very gracious and humble and easy-going. Used to move refrigerators while he wrote books, until he threw his back out and had to go the academic route. Also plays basketball with his students.

I used to fret over my GRE Lit scores until someone told me any program that cares that much about GRE Lit scores is not a program a creative writer would want to go to anyway. Made sense.



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Texas Tech left a message for me yesterday while I was out, so I'm hoping I'm in there. We're playing phone tag right now. Stephen Graham Jones teaches there, they have awesome funding, and they allow you to teach literature and CW. No income tax in TX, either.

I was rejected by UGA, but that's probably a blessing in disguise, as I hear a lot of sketchy things about that place, one being that the there is strife between CW and Lit, and the other being that to apply, you have to be accepted into the Lit program first. I had to write two personal statements and send two sets of materials to two places (Lit and CW). For all I know the lit people rejected me just on my poor GRE Lit scores.

Waiting to hear from:

Ohio
Nebraska
Denver
Tenn
FSU (they didn't have all of my transcripts until the other day).



bktv


Mar 6, 2007, 9:27 PM

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Thanks again Fuzen. I think that I'd rather wait a year than go somewhere with no funding. As it is now, I'm looking at $12k in loans from my MFA (not bad for USC). I will certainly consider South. Miss. if I do pull the rejection trifecta. Any word on how FSU is doing their waitlist? Or any news from Houston?


fuzen


Mar 7, 2007, 2:30 AM

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I'll ask Rie and see if they're able to offer funding still for applicants.

Haven't heard anything from Houston, but I'm thinking, even if I get in, I'd still rather go to FSU, so I'm just going to stick with FSU. From what Mark Winegardner told me, it sounds like FSU has their own inside waiting list, as in, people they have in mind but haven't contacted yet, while they wait to hear from the acceptances.

If you don't have a rejection letter in your hand, it ain't over yet.



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Thanks again Fuzen. I think that I'd rather wait a year than go somewhere with no funding. As it is now, I'm looking at $12k in loans from my MFA (not bad for USC). I will certainly consider South. Miss. if I do pull the rejection trifecta. Any word on how FSU is doing their waitlist? Or any news from Houston?



gogogirl


Mar 7, 2007, 11:06 AM

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 I was told the USM Ph.D. program is one of the programs I should avoid. A bad location, tiered funding, poor faculty, heavy teaching load (2 comp classes per semester) and heavy coursework requirements (49 hrs or something). Bad bad bad, this is what I heard from a USM graduate! Only apply if I’m really desperate…

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Don't forget Southen Mississippi, which offers an M.A. and a Ph.D. for creative writing, and offers full funding, with great teachers.

My roommate got a waitlist notice for poetry at USC yesterday. I got a call from FSU last Wednesday for fiction Ph.D. I haven't heard yet from Houston, but I'm thinking I'll be at FSU come Fall.



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Two more programs while I'm at it:

University of North Dakota
University of Connecticut-Storrs

Those (in addition to the list) were the only others I could find.




(This post was edited by gogogirl on Mar 7, 2007, 11:11 AM)


fuzen


Mar 7, 2007, 11:32 AM

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I guess this goes for anyone who's looking for an emergency backup plan for creative writing M.A. or Ph.D. degrees: The Center for Writers at Southern Miss technically has a deadline of March 1st for people who want funding, but Rie Fortenberry, the Admissions Coordinator, has just told me that they're willing to extend that deadline and it's not too late (though, obviously, the sooner you get in your application the better).

Some quick info:
- They offer full tuition waivers.
- They offer stipends of $10k and $15k. $15k stipends are strictly for Ph.D. students, and while not all Ph.D. students get the $15k, I'm pretty sure they get at least the $10k. (I'm finishing up my M.A. here and I've lived on a $10k stipend just fine, no loans needed.)
- The M.A. degree is two years, and the Ph.D. degree, unlike most other places, is three years.
- The program has about 45 people total, poetry and fiction included. It's a small faculty, with two poets and two fiction writers (they're looking to hire a third person to replace Mary Robison), and we have visiting writers conduct the occasional workshop. During my time here, I've workshopped with Amy Hempel, Ann Beattie, Tony Earley, and others. Additionally, we've had Dave Smith, Lucie Brock-Broido, Stuart Dischell, James Tate, and other people swing by for readings. Actually, Tate workshopped too, but I'm not a poet so I didn't get to work with him. Because it's a small program when these visiting writers come you get pretty intimate with them. I had lunch with Ann Beattie and James Tate, and talked to Amy Hempel and Tony Earley for quite a while at their receptions. By reception I mean a small party at some faculty member's house, where twenty people show up and eat and drink and chat.
- A typical courseload is one workshop, one literature class, and one readings class. Your dissertation is just your creative work, no lit papers. (Well, for M.A.; I think it's the same for Ph.D., though I'm not certain.)
- Don't need GRE Lit scores.
- Love the teachers here. My writing now and my writing two years ago are, well, night and day. One of the fiction teachers doesn't publish much because he spends all his time teaching. He will go through every single sentence, every word, of your story, regardless of what "level" you're at, and talk to you about what he thinks is working and not, and what should be done to address it. The other one looks at your stories and your writing as a whole from a bigger perspective. They balance each other out pretty well.
- They don't mind if you cross genres. I've taken two poetry classes, and another fiction person is enrolled in a poetry workshop this semester.
- The fiction writers, poets, and lit students all comingle together. My roommate, for instance, is a poet. It's a very supportive environment.
- Located in Hattiesburg, about a hundred miles north of New Orleans. I head down there for Mardi Gras, Voodoo Fest, Jazz Fest, etc.

Anyway, if you want more information about the program or the city let me know (jwang at juked dot com). And if you're interested in applying (still time to get financial support) I'd suggest getting in touch with Rie right away so they know to expect something.



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Thanks again Fuzen. I think that I'd rather wait a year than go somewhere with no funding. As it is now, I'm looking at $12k in loans from my MFA (not bad for USC). I will certainly consider South. Miss. if I do pull the rejection trifecta. Any word on how FSU is doing their waitlist? Or any news from Houston?



fuzen


Mar 7, 2007, 12:00 PM

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I'd be interested to see who told you that, gogogirl. Personally, I can't say enough good things about the program here. It's because of what I learned at USM that I got into FSU. The location is entirely subjective. I mean, it's a quiet little town, yes, but it's easy living and the people are friendly. If you really need a big city for your writing, then stay the hell away from here. If you need a program that gives you free schooling and enough to live on while you write, then you should definitely consider this program.

Tiered funding - well, either you get the $15k or the $10k as a Ph.D. student. I don't know that that's such a problem. It's not something that we get worked up about.

Faculty - I'll tell you my own experience. When I first got here, and I got a poor review on my story for my first workshop, I thought Frederick Barthelme was out to make me into a cookie cutter writer, that he just wanted me to write like he does. I considered quitting the program and moving back to California (shitty teacher, bad location, etc. etc.). But I was also a shitty writer who thought he was going to be the next big thing. I calmed down and wrote my next story and got a positive review, though if anything it was further away from Frederick's writing than my first piece. Since then I've also written an experimental story heavily based on rhythm and language, nothing like the minimalist realist style of the faculty here, yet gotten profuse praise for it. In time I learned the faculty (for fiction, anyway) are just honest people who see bad writing as any experienced writer would, and they're not afraid to point it out to you. Yes, I've seen a few students become unhappy here, but usually (and I stress that - not always) it's people who are sensitive and stubborn and unable to see past their own flaws. I've come to believe that you'll only become as much of a cookie-cutter writer as your own originality lets you. The faculty here doesn't stifle your creativity. They just give you their honest feedback, which is what we'd want, right?

If you want to hear from more people in the program I'd happily pass your e-mail along to others - in M.A. or Ph.D., in fiction or poetry. You can also call the department and speak to whichever grad student is working the desk at the moment. Out of the 45 or whatever people here right now, I'd say easily 40 of them would stand up for the program and tell you the same thing I did.






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I was told the USM Ph.D. program is one of the programs I should avoid. A bad location, tiered funding, poor faculty, heavy teaching load (2 comp classes per semester) and heavy coursework requirements (49 hrs or something). Bad bad bad, this is what I heard from a USM graduate! Only apply if I’m really desperate…

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Don't forget Southen Mississippi, which offers an M.A. and a Ph.D. for creative writing, and offers full funding, with great teachers.

My roommate got a waitlist notice for poetry at USC yesterday. I got a call from FSU last Wednesday for fiction Ph.D. I haven't heard yet from Houston, but I'm thinking I'll be at FSU come Fall.



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Two more programs while I'm at it:

University of North Dakota
University of Connecticut-Storrs

Those (in addition to the list) were the only others I could find.





gogogirl


Mar 7, 2007, 12:23 PM

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fuzen,

If you like it there so much, why are you leaving? Isn't FSU a better program than USM?

gogogirl


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I'd be interested to see who told you that, gogogirl. Personally, I can't say enough good things about the program here. It's because of what I learned at USM that I got into FSU. The location is entirely subjective. I mean, it's a quiet little town, yes, but it's easy living and the people are friendly. If you really need a big city for your writing, then stay the hell away from here. If you need a program that gives you free schooling and enough to live on while you write, then you should definitely consider this program.

Tiered funding - well, either you get the $15k or the $10k as a Ph.D. student. I don't know that that's such a problem. It's not something that we get worked up about.

Faculty - I'll tell you my own experience. When I first got here, and I got a poor review on my story for my first workshop, I thought Frederick Barthelme was out to make me into a cookie cutter writer, that he just wanted me to write like he does. I considered quitting the program and moving back to California (shitty teacher, bad location, etc. etc.). But I was also a shitty writer who thought he was going to be the next big thing. I calmed down and wrote my next story and got a positive review, though if anything it was further away from Frederick's writing than my first piece. Since then I've also written an experimental story heavily based on rhythm and language, nothing like the minimalist realist style of the faculty here, yet gotten profuse praise for it. In time I learned the faculty (for fiction, anyway) are just honest people who see bad writing as any experienced writer would, and they're not afraid to point it out to you. Yes, I've seen a few students become unhappy here, but usually (and I stress that - not always) it's people who are sensitive and stubborn and unable to see past their own flaws. I've come to believe that you'll only become as much of a cookie-cutter writer as your own originality lets you. The faculty here doesn't stifle your creativity. They just give you their honest feedback, which is what we'd want, right?

If you want to hear from more people in the program I'd happily pass your e-mail along to others - in M.A. or Ph.D., in fiction or poetry. You can also call the department and speak to whichever grad student is working the desk at the moment. Out of the 45 or whatever people here right now, I'd say easily 40 of them would stand up for the program and tell you the same thing I did.






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I was told the USM Ph.D. program is one of the programs I should avoid. A bad location, tiered funding, poor faculty, heavy teaching load (2 comp classes per semester) and heavy coursework requirements (49 hrs or something). Bad bad bad, this is what I heard from a USM graduate! Only apply if I’m really desperate…

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Don't forget Southen Mississippi, which offers an M.A. and a Ph.D. for creative writing, and offers full funding, with great teachers.

My roommate got a waitlist notice for poetry at USC yesterday. I got a call from FSU last Wednesday for fiction Ph.D. I haven't heard yet from Houston, but I'm thinking I'll be at FSU come Fall.



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Two more programs while I'm at it:

University of North Dakota
University of Connecticut-Storrs

Those (in addition to the list) were the only others I could find.






fuzen


Mar 7, 2007, 12:39 PM

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Easy. A) I've worked with Rick and Steve here for two years. They told me they'd love to have me back but they also think I'd gain more by working with different teachers at a different programs, hear different perspectives, and I agree, and B) in academia, it's always better to have different schools for different degrees, show prospective employers that you were wanted by different people instead of kept around, and C) FSU is, on paper, one of the best creative writing Ph.D. programs, as good as anywhere else. I mention USM because I get the feeling not enough people know of it or about it. Surely, if you got into FSU and USM both, you'd pick FSU, but I'd take a USM Ph.D. over an M.F.A. at any school outside of the typical dream list. If someone is looking for a backup at this point, USM is a great choice.



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fuzen,

If you like it there so much, why are you leaving? Isn't FSU a better program than USM?

gogogirl


gogogirl


Mar 7, 2007, 12:49 PM

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What's the funding situation at FSU? I remember hearing it's not good at all.

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Easy. A) I've worked with Rick and Steve here for two years. They told me they'd love to have me back but they also think I'd gain more by working with different teachers at a different programs, hear different perspectives, and I agree, and B) in academia, it's always better to have different schools for different degrees, show prospective employers that you were wanted by different people instead of kept around, and C) FSU is, on paper, one of the best creative writing Ph.D. programs, as good as anywhere else. I mention USM because I get the feeling not enough people know of it or about it. Surely, if you got into FSU and USM both, you'd pick FSU, but I'd take a USM Ph.D. over an M.F.A. at any school outside of the typical dream list. If someone is looking for a backup at this point, USM is a great choice.



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fuzen,

If you like it there so much, why are you leaving? Isn't FSU a better program than USM?

gogogirl



gogogirl


Mar 7, 2007, 1:55 PM

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Anyway, congratulations, Wang. Going from USM to FSU is a bit of a leap for you! Good job!


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Easy. A) I've worked with Rick and Steve here for two years. They told me they'd love to have me back but they also think I'd gain more by working with different teachers at a different programs, hear different perspectives, and I agree, and B) in academia, it's always better to have different schools for different degrees, show prospective employers that you were wanted by different people instead of kept around, and C) FSU is, on paper, one of the best creative writing Ph.D. programs, as good as anywhere else. I mention USM because I get the feeling not enough people know of it or about it. Surely, if you got into FSU and USM both, you'd pick FSU, but I'd take a USM Ph.D. over an M.F.A. at any school outside of the typical dream list. If someone is looking for a backup at this point, USM is a great choice.



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fuzen,

If you like it there so much, why are you leaving? Isn't FSU a better program than USM?

gogogirl



fuzen


Mar 7, 2007, 3:01 PM

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Hmmmm. Do I know you?

Re: funding, I haven't gotten the full details yet (they're currently on Spring Break), but I'm not worried.



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Anyway, congratulations, Wang. Going from USM to FSU is a bit of a leap for you! Good job!


fleurdelis44


Mar 7, 2007, 5:43 PM

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Sorry to interrupt the conversation. Just wanted to introduce myself: I just got into FSU too--PhD fiction with assistantship. I'm very excited and a bit nervous about the specific dollar amount of the funding. I don't think I can afford less than 10,000 a year. If you have any inside info on FSU, Fuzen, please pass it along. Looks like I'll be seeing you in the fall.


fuzen


Mar 7, 2007, 7:30 PM

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Hey, congrats! And yeah, I'll probably be seeing you in the fall, or even summer, if you go to the teaching training thing. I didn't get a specific dollar amount when I chatted with this one fifth-year Ph.D. student, though he said it's enough to squeeze by on. I doubt it's less than $10k, but I really don't know. As soon as I find out I'll pass it along (and likewise!). E-mail me at jwang at juked dot com - if I come across other resources (apartment, whatever) I'll send that to you too.

Congrats again, that's wonderful news! When Mark called me I was so nervous my tongue got all tied up and I said some pretty dumb things to him. I was worried he'd retract the acceptance. Haha...


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Sorry to interrupt the conversation. Just wanted to introduce myself: I just got into FSU too--PhD fiction with assistantship. I'm very excited and a bit nervous about the specific dollar amount of the funding. I don't think I can afford less than 10,000 a year. If you have any inside info on FSU, Fuzen, please pass it along. Looks like I'll be seeing you in the fall.



gcsumfa


Mar 7, 2007, 9:24 PM

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I'm basically on Texas Tech's "inside" waiting list, according to them. They just don't have many slots this year for fiction, but I still have a chance, and they really did like my application. They really beefed up their PhD CW program three years ago, and I just happened to apply when that first class is still strong in numbers and not many people have graduated yet. But, they are really nice to deal with and you can tell that they have a good thing going in Lubbock. Every time I open a PW issue, I see an ad for their program--even in this latest issue with app season over.

Fuzen, thanks a bunch for that USM bit of info. I was actually thinking of contacting them and asking if I could submit a late application, but felt weird doing so. I think I'll send an app their way tomorrow.

As for FSU, I haven't heard anything back from them...I'm hoping I'm one of the ones on their "inside list" and that they've already rejected their first cuts.

Oh, about FSU funding: I'm pretty sure that when I researched their program, their stipend is only like 10,600K. In fact, I'm almost positive. The stipend amount has always been a concern of mine in regards to their program--the only concern, really.

One program that has always interested me is Ohio U. Did anyone else apply there?


gogogirl


Mar 7, 2007, 10:26 PM

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Texas Tech vs. Southern Mississippi

Which one would you choose? Which one is a better program?

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I'm basically on Texas Tech's "inside" waiting list, according to them. They just don't have many slots this year for fiction, but I still have a chance, and they really did like my application. They really beefed up their PhD CW program three years ago, and I just happened to apply when that first class is still strong in numbers and not many people have graduated yet. But, they are really nice to deal with and you can tell that they have a good thing going in Lubbock. Every time I open a PW issue, I see an ad for their program--even in this latest issue with app season over.

Fuzen, thanks a bunch for that USM bit of info. I was actually thinking of contacting them and asking if I could submit a late application, but felt weird doing so. I think I'll send an app their way tomorrow.

As for FSU, I haven't heard anything back from them...I'm hoping I'm one of the ones on their "inside list" and that they've already rejected their first cuts.

Oh, about FSU funding: I'm pretty sure that when I researched their program, their stipend is only like 10,600K. In fact, I'm almost positive. The stipend amount has always been a concern of mine in regards to their program--the only concern, really.

One program that has always interested me is Ohio U. Did anyone else apply there?



gcsumfa


Mar 7, 2007, 10:38 PM

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Texas Tech vs. Southern Mississippi

Which one would you choose? Which one is a better program?


Southern Miss is the more established program, and has been around longer, but I really don't get caught up in program x vs program y. For me, a creative writing program is ultimately what you, the writer, make of it. Often it comes down to "fit."

Stephen Graham Jones teaches at Texas Tech; he's an FSU grad. "Demon Theory" is an awesome novel. One of the things I like about Texas Tech’s program is that they allow you to teach more than composition. You teach lit and creative writing by your second semester. That’s huge for your CV. One of their grads just landed a tenure track job.

Their stipends are 14,600K. Not bad.

I don't think one could go wrong at either place, really. USM is a bigger name and a great program. Texas Tech is a newer program on the rise, and there’s always a lot of money in TX.


fuzen


Mar 7, 2007, 11:49 PM

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Hey, great to hear. Always good to have a backup. And if you knew how the people are here, you wouldn't feel weird at all contacting them. I mean, honestly, they don't mind the late thing. Rick works extremely quickly - when I applied for Ph.D. programs he gave me my rec letters in less than 24 hours. If anything they'd like to hear from you first, and know that you're interested, late or not. There's a large number of people graduating this may so I'm thinking there should be quite a few assistantships available.

Re: FSU funding, the same fifth-year Ph.D. person I spoke to there mentioned that your stipend goes up after you've gained some experience. I don't know if it's by a noticeable amount, but it's something.

In any case, good luck with TTU! Great program they have going there.


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I'm basically on Texas Tech's "inside" waiting list, according to them. They just don't have many slots this year for fiction, but I still have a chance, and they really did like my application. They really beefed up their PhD CW program three years ago, and I just happened to apply when that first class is still strong in numbers and not many people have graduated yet. But, they are really nice to deal with and you can tell that they have a good thing going in Lubbock. Every time I open a PW issue, I see an ad for their program--even in this latest issue with app season over.

Fuzen, thanks a bunch for that USM bit of info. I was actually thinking of contacting them and asking if I could submit a late application, but felt weird doing so. I think I'll send an app their way tomorrow.

As for FSU, I haven't heard anything back from them...I'm hoping I'm one of the ones on their "inside list" and that they've already rejected their first cuts.

Oh, about FSU funding: I'm pretty sure that when I researched their program, their stipend is only like 10,600K. In fact, I'm almost positive. The stipend amount has always been a concern of mine in regards to their program--the only concern, really.

One program that has always interested me is Ohio U. Did anyone else apply there?



bktv


Mar 8, 2007, 8:38 PM

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Officially rejected by USC today by mail (in case anyone was waiting). I knew it was coming, but I guess was hoping for a late waitlist or something, since I allegedly "had a USC in." But when they only accept 2 people...

I assume FSU is also a rejection.

Texas and UH is looking better and better.


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gcsumfa


Mar 8, 2007, 9:40 PM

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I assume FSU is also a rejection.

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Fuzen said that FSU supposedly has an "inside waiting" list, so I wouldn't give up on them yet.

Did anyone apply to Ohio??


fuzen


Mar 8, 2007, 9:55 PM

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Is that an exaggeration or did they really only accept two people? (I guess as exaggerations go it'd be a very small one. Four versus two is not that big a difference.)

But yeah, if you haven't heard from FSU don't give up yet.



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Officially rejected by USC today by mail (in case anyone was waiting). I knew it was coming, but I guess was hoping for a late waitlist or something, since I allegedly "had a USC in." But when they only accept 2 people...

I assume FSU is also a rejection.

Texas and UH is looking better and better.



bktv


Mar 8, 2007, 10:40 PM

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I should have said two per genre. So yes, four total.




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Is that an exaggeration or did they really only accept two people? (I guess as exaggerations go it'd be a very small one. Four versus two is not that big a difference.)

But yeah, if you haven't heard from FSU don't give up yet.



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