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kvandegraaf


Mar 17, 2009, 8:48 PM

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YAY TABBY! That's really terrific news. I love that OU is in "Athens" Ohio. That is kind of the least Ohio name for a town I can think of. Plus, isn't UGA in Athens, GA? What is with all these misplaced Athenseseses.

/tangent

CONGRATS!


kvandegraaf


Mar 17, 2009, 8:56 PM

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Things that should be illegal, in no particular order:

1. Acceptances to PhD programs that don't include funding.

2. Unranked waitlists.

3. Online application status checkers that never update, even after you get accepted/rejected.

4. Out of state tuition rates.

5. Spring break weeks that occur during application season. So, like, anytime in the spring semester.

6. DGS that doesn't answer my emails immediately.

7. Rejection letters that you know are coming that never seem to come.

There, now. I feel better. Please feel free to add to my list.


loaf

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Mar 17, 2009, 10:03 PM

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Yes to all of these things, kvandegraaf! I've been emailing with folks at Utah, and they said I have "a very good chance" of getting in if someone decides not to go there, so, folks, please don't go there, okay! I'm not wild about living in Utah, but at this point, with two offers and no funding, I will go almost anywhere.

For folks wanting to know anything about FSU, again, I offer up myself for a well of information, as I'm just finishing my MFA here. I can tell you that they're using a new electronic system for applications and they've had some major trouble with it, so that could be part of the hold up.

I am now feeling naive for all the offers I had for my MFA. Why did I think it would be the same for PhD? (Trying to tell myself that t's the economy, stupid!)

I got my rejection from Cincinnati, and it doesn't look like I'll hear anything positive from Ohio or Denver, but we shall see. Congrats to all of you who are getting such positive results! I'm glad to know that someone is getting in and it's not all just a big scam for our application fees! :)


kvandegraaf


Mar 17, 2009, 11:59 PM

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I'm glad to know that someone is getting in and it's not all just a big scam for our application fees!

Now, now loaf. You have positive news from 3 schools. I know it's horrible and frustrating and disappointing not to have news about funding right away (grrrr Nebraska), but I think making the cut at 3 places is a pretty damn good result given the competition out there.

And it's easy to forget this, and not much of a consolation when you're on the lousy end, but I truly do believe that a rejection often isn't necessarily a judgment about the quality of one's work. And even if it is, I doubt any of us want to go to a school where the faculty isn't behind our work. Take that, bums from Cincinnati!


loaf

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Mar 18, 2009, 12:26 AM

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Oh, I know, I know. I was trying to be funny. Doesn't always come across well online... :)


kvandegraaf


Mar 18, 2009, 1:29 AM

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I know you were being facetious there! Really, though, it is tempting to try and compare this process to doing the MFA application, but I just feel it's a really different ballgame. Different schools, different applications, different competition, different different.

Also, I was putting my positive hat on and convincing myself just as much as you ;) To be honest, I never thought I looked very good in hats anyway.


Tabby


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Mar 18, 2009, 10:55 AM

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Hey those waiting for funding from UNL (such as myself). For now I'm keeping my lottery ticket in the hat, but since I received this nomoneydown offer from OU, I'll probably go with that. (Unless FSU sends Ed McMahon over with a huge posterboard check). At OU you only have to teach one section of Comp, instead of two (blerg!), and Athens is driving distance to friends.

I can say that the faculty at UNL seemed really great when I went to visit last year, and they really don't have much to do with funding decisions, except they have to make some very tough decisions that I could tell they HATE to make. They let in five per genre, but only have funding for a couple (2?).

Loaf, can we pay you to sneak in the English office and check out our files? Also, I second kvadegraaf, in that ANY acceptance in this pool of applicants is a huge vote of confidence, and for me at least, it worked out to wait, write, get a few more pubs under my belt and reapply.


http://www.kellykathleenferguson.com


chitown


Mar 18, 2009, 12:30 PM

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Congrats Tabby (and everyone else!)- I grew up not too far from Athens and it's a pretty great college town. It reminds me of Athens, GA strangely enough. Lots of neat shops, a growing music scene, and a very pretty campus.


Tabby


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Mar 18, 2009, 12:35 PM

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Thanks chitown!

Maybe we are pulling a location switcharoo. I might be moving to the Midwest while you might be en route to cajun country.

Thanks for letting me know about Athens, OH. I applied to Athens, GA, simply because I like the location, not because I thought I was an especially great fit for the program. Location is important to me.

It looks like I'm leaving Nola, one way or the other, which I'm actually quite sad about. This region really gets in you and makes you love it. I can probably find out more about Lafayette if you want.


http://www.kellykathleenferguson.com


theootto


Mar 18, 2009, 1:15 PM

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I talked to Sue Hart--VERY SWEET--at UNL this morning. She said that they had 48 fiction apps for the phd and accepted 'about 20.' (Which is obviously inconsistent with the "five" they told Tabby. Maybe that was last year?) She also said they could only fund "one or two" per genre.

Doesn't sound so promising, eh?

They had something like 170 phD apps in total--I think--I was driving to work while talking to her (on a hands-free device! Though still bad, i know).

CRAAAAAAAZY. But Sue was definitely sweet. I tried to nudge her toward divulging the department's reasoning behind accepting so many students, but she just laughed nervously.

Sigh.


Tabby


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Mar 18, 2009, 1:38 PM

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TWENTY?

I am now much less flattered by my acceptance.

No wonder all of us are wondering about funding from UNL!

Huh. My visit was a drive by so I could be wrong about my five. Memory has funny tricks.

Probably they accept so many because how many people are going to pay for a PhD? But there's always one or two people who come from money. Or who are willing to scramble to make it work.

I remember Sue Hart being super nice.


http://www.kellykathleenferguson.com

(This post was edited by Tabby on Mar 18, 2009, 1:42 PM)


betp


Mar 18, 2009, 2:59 PM

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hey tabby! that's great great news. the nonfiction students at ohio as well as dinty moore and andrew escobedo seem fantastic. and athens is a funky little college town. (i went there to visit two weeks ago.) also, it seems like there's a lot of nice outdoors stuff close, too, if you're into that.

it was hard to turn down ou, but i'm really happy that someone on these boards got in there. and their funding offer is really nice, too. (also, they have tons of travel money for students and an optional sixth year postdoc: i'm not sure if they told you that.) anyway, huge congrats again. if you end up at ohio, i'm sure you'll love the people there. they all seem great. i emailed with some of the nonfiction students, too. this may be weird, but let me know if you want their emails--i bet they'd be happy to email with you too.

and you're right! i am already checking the craigslist for mizzou. i still can't believe i'm actually going to mizzou--i've kept scott cairns voice message on my phone for about the last month, just to make sure it's for real.


ellen362


Mar 18, 2009, 6:25 PM

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Hi Everyone,

I've been checking Grad Cafe but no one is posting Denver Creative Writing Ph.D. results. I know there are acceptances on Seth's blog. Anyone have any info on admissions, or first-hand info about the program itself?

Thanks and good luck,

Ellen


dietsnapple


Mar 19, 2009, 12:35 PM

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Any word yet from Houston?


GDClark
George David Clark
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Mar 19, 2009, 1:18 PM

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I got a poetry acceptance from Houston last week (via phone call from Tony Hoagland). I was told to expect a call from the department dean but that hasn't happened and I have yet to receive anything in writing.


GDClark
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Mar 20, 2009, 12:31 AM

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dietsnapple,

Just got more word on Houston in the mail today. Funding is surprisingly low at around 11k a year (particularly considering that a lower-ranked program in the same state, Texas Tech, is offering 19k), and it looks like PhDs might not get tuition remission in years 4 & 5.

If you haven't heard anything yet maybe that means you're on the waitlist. If you're poetry, I'll likely be turning down my spot in the next couple days. Hope that means good news for you.


kvandegraaf


Mar 20, 2009, 1:16 AM

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Gosh, that is a surprisingly shitty package from Houston. No tuition remission years 4-5 is the real killer. I haven't heard anything from Houston either, despite 2 emails last week. I think I've pretty much made my decision at this point though, so it's kind of irrelevant.


s76


Mar 25, 2009, 12:28 PM

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Hi Ellen. I've been anxiously waiting to hear from DU, too. I finally broke down and called them, but I was told that they're still making decisions and letters will go out the first week of April. I know at least one or two people have heard from them. I wonder why they're keeping so quiet, but maybe there's still last minute hope?

Best of luck.


ellen362


Mar 25, 2009, 3:02 PM

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Hi s76,

Yes, I called them too. I'm hoping for early early April. I am getting landlord lease-renewal pressure! Do you have any idea about potential funding packages?

Good luck,
Ellen


Tabby


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Mar 25, 2009, 5:48 PM

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FSU? Anyone? FSU?


http://www.kellykathleenferguson.com


s76


Mar 25, 2009, 6:39 PM

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Nope, I don't know anything about funding packages. Now that I've been thinking about it all day, I feel like "still under consideration" probably means rejected. It's so late. But I don't know why they'd sit on rejection letters. Has anyone actually been rejected by Denver? Waitlisted?


jacksonbliss


Mar 26, 2009, 12:56 PM

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Tabby,

I hope this only applied to my situation as a fiction PhD applicant, but I've received several emails from one of the faculty members in FSU's admissions office, and it looks really really really bad. Usually, like every other program, they can make more offers than they can afford, knowing that in the worst case scenario, they will be able to scrape up some funding in the unlikely chance that every offer of admission was accepted. This year, however, they couldn't overshoot. They could only offer as many offers as they had slots for, meaning, funding. And to make matters even worse, the applicants that were accepted aren't rejecting their offers in the same numbers they did last year, so most waitlisted applicants--I hate to say it--are fucked. So, I'm hoping you're poetry, and that one of the PhD aceptees refuses, you might be in luck. But for fiction people in PhD it's pretty much over. I got a really flattering (and apologetic) email explaining how they had to actually reduce the fiction slots from 3 to 2, whereas I think they accepted 3 people in poetry, and how all 7-10 frontrunners in both poetry + fiction, both accepted applicants + waitlisted ones, were all so "stunning" that the faculty spent hours and hours trying to rank them, and it ended up just being really painful for them. Anyway, I hope your situation is better than mine. After going through my own sadness, frustration, confusion + resentment, I just had to let this go. Here's hoping you get better news. Suerte + Bonne chance! Peace, Blessings, --j2b


loaf

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Mar 26, 2009, 1:55 PM

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EEk!

Just got a call from Utah...they're accepting me off the waitlist! When I emailed them a few weeks ago to ask where I was on the waitlist, they said #1, and Scott Black said the Dean's Office just threw a little more money their way, so they're able to make a few more offers.

Just when I've all but decided to go to Nebraska (I'm visiting next week), I get a phone call and someone giving me funding and saying "We really hope you come, we were really impressed with your work," etc etc etc.

Not that I'm eager to live in Utah...but no one else has offered funding...yay!


jacksonbliss


Mar 26, 2009, 2:06 PM

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Loaf, that's great news, even though it complicates things for you. Still, Utah is probably one of the top 5 Ph.D programs in CW in the entire nation. I couldn't imagine kicking it in SLC, but then again, I couldn't imagine Nebraska either. And at least with Utah, it could be like going to another country, which can be really fascinating. Good luck deciding.


Tabby


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Mar 26, 2009, 2:25 PM

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Thanks for looking into it. I know this year is ROUGH all around.

I am fortunate in that I eeked in OU with funding. In a way this makes things easier for me, because FSU would have been the only offer that could confuse my decision. I can't ever make up my mind and probably woulda ruptured my spleen.

Yay, loaf! What is it with these PhD locations? It's as though The Writing Gods want to test our true dedication. Stupid Writer Gods. When I'm famous I'm starting up a PhD in Fiji. And full fundng in NYC. And Taos. And Paris.

I'm still waiting on UNL funding too. But OU is looking good.


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