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shoe1234


Mar 10, 2008, 6:18 PM

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Today I emailed the graduate secretary at Nebraska and learned I got it. Acceptance and rejection letters go out tomorrow. No word yet on assistanships.


gcsumfa


Mar 10, 2008, 6:36 PM

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Today I emailed the graduate secretary at Nebraska and learned I got it. Acceptance and rejection letters go out tomorrow. No word yet on assistanships.


Congrats!

I actually emailed the grad director a few hours ago; now I'm wishing I had emailed the secretary. Did the secretary give any indication to how many offers were given out?


hamlet3145


Mar 10, 2008, 6:53 PM

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Congrats, Shoe! What genre?


shoe1234


Mar 10, 2008, 7:01 PM

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GCS,

She didn't indicate the number of spots. I'm sure if you email her now, you'll get a response tomorrow morning. We've corresponded a few times, and she's been very prompt in her replies.

Hamlet,

My genre is fiction.


stephkarto1
Stephanie Kartalopoulos

Mar 10, 2008, 7:04 PM

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My Utah rejection came in the mail today, too.


stephkarto1
Stephanie Kartalopoulos

Mar 10, 2008, 7:05 PM

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Congratulations! That's AWESOME!


bktv


Mar 10, 2008, 7:12 PM

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Congratulations on the Nebraska acceptance!


(Oh bugger, I'm going to send the fateful questioning email now.)


LesK
Les
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Mar 10, 2008, 7:15 PM

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My Utah rejection came in the mail today, too.


Yep. I got two left now....granted my personal top two, but it's not looking good. Maybe an MA would be good for me. Wish I'd thought of it sooner, though.


pedro


Mar 10, 2008, 7:16 PM

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Congratulations, shoe!


LesK
Les
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Mar 10, 2008, 7:16 PM

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shoe1234,

Congrats on the Nebraska acceptance! I hope, if you go there, that the cold sparks some fantastic fiction!


hamlet3145


Mar 10, 2008, 7:20 PM

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LesK,

Just fyi there should be some MA's out there that have rolling admission.


gcsumfa


Mar 10, 2008, 7:28 PM

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Could you send me a PM with her email? For some reason, I can't locate her address on UNL's website.



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GCS,

She didn't indicate the number of spots. I'm sure if you email her now, you'll get a response tomorrow morning. We've corresponded a few times, and she's been very prompt in her replies.

Hamlet,

My genre is fiction.



LesK
Les
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Mar 10, 2008, 7:35 PM

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Just fyi there should be some MA's out there that have rolling admission.


Thanks, Hamlet. Very much appreciated. At the moment, however, I'm looking into one particular program and planning to do more research and exploration of other schools, etc., with Spring in mind (or perhaps next year when my bank account is much more robust). I must get a TA, regardless of what I do next, and I doubt, at this point, I can cull together an application with a significantly altered SoP while asking for yet more (different) recommendations.

That said, perhaps others would be interested (now or in the future) in any programs you may know of with rolling admissions and the possibility, however slim, of funding at this late date?

Still, I have two schools left. Perhaps my strange little poems will entice one of those committees to think I'm the best thing since Knight Rider (v 1.0). You never know until you have the no in your hand....


(This post was edited by LesK on Mar 10, 2008, 7:36 PM)


hamlet3145


Mar 10, 2008, 7:50 PM

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Oh, I don't have a specific program in mind, though I was thinking vaguely of big state schools. I know some are quite dependent on a steady stream of masters student to TA, say, undergrad engineers in composition. (I swear that is the raison d'etre for Iowa State's M.A. [where I received mine]). And, even if they do have a deadline, one could always e-mail to find out how concrete it is.


chitown


Mar 11, 2008, 2:04 AM

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Waitlisted today at Tennessee, via letter dated March 4th. I know it's not an acceptance, but I was still thrilled to know that I have a chance.


LesK
Les
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Mar 11, 2008, 7:03 AM

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Waitlisted today at Tennessee, via letter dated March 4th. I know it's not an acceptance, but I was still thrilled to know that I have a chance.


Hope that chance (or another) works out for you, chitown!


chitown


Mar 11, 2008, 9:48 AM

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Thanks, Les, same to you. I'll keep you updated on how it turns out.


gcsumfa


Mar 11, 2008, 10:09 AM

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Rejected from Ohio U. Just devastated. Don't understand this one at all. I made the waitlist last year on a weaker writing sample. All of my profs/mentors told me that my writing sample had improved since last year, but it's looking like I'll be rejected by everyone.


(This post was edited by gcsumfa on Mar 11, 2008, 10:11 AM)


stephkarto1
Stephanie Kartalopoulos

Mar 11, 2008, 10:36 AM

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Rejected? That sucks. I mean...really! I'm so bummed to hear that. I haven't read your writing, but I am so sure that Ohio made a mistake with that one and that they really don't know what they're doing.

Anyhow, if I were there I would keep on passing you the vodka shots. Or I'd take you for a pedicure or something. Do you have any applications still out there?


spamela


Mar 11, 2008, 10:46 AM

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I'm sorry about Ohio. That just sucks.


gcsumfa


Mar 11, 2008, 10:56 AM

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I'm sorry about Ohio. That just sucks.


The part that hurts the most is that I didn't make the waitlist. I was "high on their list last year" (per waitlist letter)--this year I didn't even make the waitlist.


(This post was edited by gcsumfa on Mar 11, 2008, 10:56 AM)


spamela


Mar 11, 2008, 11:01 AM

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This is total speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Atlantic article, the increasing coverage of PhD programs in the media, the increasing requests for the PhD in job recs, and the looming recession have all contributed to a bigger applicant pool and a more competitive atmosphere this year. That doesn't make Ohio suck any less for not letting you in this year though.


chitown


Mar 11, 2008, 11:03 AM

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Iím sorry to hear about Ohio. This whole process is crazy. But until you have rejection letters in hand from all of your schools, youíre still in it.


gcsumfa


Mar 11, 2008, 11:18 AM

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This is total speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Atlantic article, the increasing coverage of PhD programs in the media, the increasing requests for the PhD in job recs, and the looming recession have all contributed to a bigger applicant pool and a more competitive atmosphere this year. That doesn't make Ohio suck any less for not letting you in this year though.


Yaeh, that's a good point; you're probably right.


hamlet3145


Mar 11, 2008, 1:12 PM

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First, Gcsumfa, I'm really sorry to hear about Ohio U. I know from your posts that was one you were really gunning for.

I'm blanking out about the Ph.d. coverage in the Atlantic article. Did they actually list/rank them or just mention that they exist?

I think what we might be seeing, finally, is the disparity between the number of M.F.A. programs and creative writing Ph.d. programs come to light. How many M.F.A. programs are out there right now? 300? How many creative Ph.d. programs? Maybe 26? AND, as has been pointed out in this thread, a large Ph.d. program might have six people per genre. Compare that to a large M.F.A. program like Iowa or Columbia. Add to this factors such as more jobs requiring (or strongly preferring) a Ph.d., a job market where only a handful of C.W. positions are advertised per year, and it may now be harder to get into any creative writing Ph.d. than any top 10 M.F.A. program.

I think for those who apply next year (and I'm likely going to be one of them) it will be necessary to apply both to more schools and also more types of schools--rhetoric/composition programs, traditional lit programs, educational doctorates, media studies, etc. While there are less than 30 C.W. Ph.D's, there are--as they say in technical terms--a crap load of other Ph.D's that we would be eligible for. What was your M.F.A. GPA? I bet it was either a 4.0 or damn close to it. Most lit Ph.D's only require a 3.5. The overall course work could be made very similar with the exception of trading out 3-4 workshops and the creative dissertation for a critical one. If traditional Ph.D's were targeted that were attached to M.F.A. programs (Oregon, Washington, Florida to name a few) then there is a guaranteed writing community and I strongly suspect a Ph.D. candidate with M.F.A. in hand could talk his or her way into a few writing workshops.

I'm just thinking out loud here. What it seems to me, though, is that there are some pretty damn qualified applicants not getting into programs due to a lack of space. To help make up for this I suspect that application nets are going to need to be cast both wider and deeper in the future.

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