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Mar 27, 2008, 5:10 PM

Post #1751 of 2686 (31324 views)
Warren Wilson [In reply to] Can't Post

Is anyone out there who has been accepted to WW thinking about accepting somewhere else instead? From what it sounded like, if just one person declines, I can start this summer instead of during the winter residency.


Mar 29, 2008, 7:36 PM

Post #1752 of 2686 (31214 views)
Bennington [In reply to] Can't Post

I have heard that all Bennington acceptances went out when I was lurking on Seth's blog. Has anyone heard from them? I know a few people like Lauren have been accepted, but what about rejections?

Has anyone called them?


Apr 1, 2008, 1:58 PM

Post #1753 of 2686 (31092 views)
Bard [In reply to] Can't Post

Is anyone deferring/not attending Bard this summer? Please tell them right away.


Apr 2, 2008, 5:01 PM

Post #1754 of 2686 (30993 views)
Bennington's Admissions Process [In reply to] Can't Post

I would love to hear other people's views on Bennington's admissions process. They have basically forced me to decide on my acceptance by today, which is difficult to do seeing as I am still waiting until the AWP agreed upon deadline of April 15 to hear from another school. Representatives from Columbia and Brown have told me that schools can't force you to make a decision before April 15 if they are part of the AWP. Does anyone know anything more about this?


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Apr 2, 2008, 5:10 PM

Post #1755 of 2686 (30990 views)
Re: [kakalep] Bennington's Admissions Process [In reply to] Can't Post

I was in the same situation with a different program that wanted a decision by March 17th which I begged to March 24th. And they do participate in AWP (though I don't believe Bennington does). I just didn't want to start making enemies in the admissions office calling their rule breaking bluff. Anyway, from what I could gather in my research, schools are pretty much allowed to do as they wish. There is no police to monitor or penalty to assess if they stray from the norm. AWP is a warm and fuzzy as far as I'm concerned. But, using the AWP language as a guide for appropriate and acceptable behavior, you have the right to withdraw your acceptance before April 15th without consequence. Somewhere in my string of comments you'll find a debate about this. Hope that helps.

Life Goes On, I Think


Apr 2, 2008, 6:30 PM

Post #1756 of 2686 (30972 views)
Re: [kakalep] Bennington's Admissions Process [In reply to] Can't Post

I am going to Bennington. They give a week so that they can admit someone else that they would really want before that person enrolls at another program. It looks like it is a tiered acceptance process.

Are you going? What genre are you?


Apr 3, 2008, 1:31 PM

Post #1757 of 2686 (30884 views)
Vermont and Pacific [In reply to] Can't Post

Hello to everyone. This is my first post. I've enjoyed following the suspense as everyone holds their breath in this game of musical chairs (waiting for the WW and Bennington shoes to fall ;)

I've been accepted at Vermont College and Pacific University. Now I'm taking a closer look at the mentor/instructors at each and have purchased a bunch of their books (as Tom Kelsey, aka the MFA Handbook, advises).

But of course I'm curious as to whether anybody out there has perchance made a similar choice between these two. If so, I'd be glad to get your thoughts (either public or private).

Thanks, Hieronymus


Apr 3, 2008, 1:37 PM

Post #1758 of 2686 (30882 views)
Warren Wilson in July [In reply to] Can't Post

Is anyone else starting at WW this summer? I know of at least one other person on here (dunnkc), but just wondering about other folks. I am almost almost almost sure I'm going (I just got off the waitlist, for fiction. Yay!).


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Apr 3, 2008, 2:54 PM

Post #1759 of 2686 (30854 views)
Re: [esined] Warren Wilson in July [In reply to] Can't Post

Hi esined, I too will be going to WW this summer as a new student, for fiction. I'm so thrilled!

I'm looking forward to meeting you and everyone else.



Apr 4, 2008, 11:07 AM

Post #1760 of 2686 (30783 views)
Re: [Hieronymus] Vermont and Pacific [In reply to] Can't Post

Hieronymus, I too had to choose between Vermont and Pacific. Like you I bought a bunch of books by the respective faculty--although this made for some interesting reading, I don't think it affected my decision at all. If there's one book in particular I would recommend it is Black Maps by David Jauss.

I ultimately chose Vermont, and I'm very glad I did. I just started this past winter. Vermont's faculty were fantastic, both at the residency and now during the semester, and the other students are great people. Montpelier is a fun town as well. I am eagerly anticipating the next residency in June.

I don't mean any of this as a criticism of Pacific. Pacific may have been equally good or better for all I know.

If you would like to know more or have specific questions, feel free to pm me.


Apr 4, 2008, 11:17 AM

Post #1761 of 2686 (30770 views)
Re: [tucker] Warren Wilson in July [In reply to] Can't Post

Hey, tucker - that's great! I'm going to PM you now. Congratulations to you! I'm looking forward to meeting everyone, too.


Apr 4, 2008, 2:12 PM

Post #1762 of 2686 (30716 views)
Re: [grumpyoldman53] Vermont and Pacific [In reply to] Can't Post

Ooh Black Maps is awesome. "Glossolalia" makes me weep like a child. Also, David Jauss is a wonder of a teacher and if I knew now what I knew then, I'd go to Vermont all over again just to get to work with him again.


Apr 6, 2008, 7:19 PM

Post #1763 of 2686 (30616 views)
Just wanted to say hi [In reply to] Can't Post

I only recently started reading this message board, and I wish I had found it sooner. I applied to six low-res programs this year, and it's my first time going through the process. So far I've heard back from four. WW, VT and Queens said no, and I was waitlisted at Antioch. In fact, I just got the letter Saturday. WW's letter came Saturday as well.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm hopeful about Antioch. It's one of the programs I was most excited about. I applied to Pacific and Pine Manor pretty close to their deadlines, so I don't expect to hear from them for a while.

As a newbie and someone who didn't major in English or creative writing, I'd like to say thanks to everyone who's posted detailed messages here about individual schools and the application process. Although I stumbled upon this late in the game, I know it'll be a great help to me should I have to go through this process again. I've learned so much here, and it's been very inspiring to read your stories.

For those of you still waiting to hear, I wish you all the best.

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Apr 6, 2008, 7:28 PM

Post #1764 of 2686 (30613 views)
Re: [Zina] Just wanted to say hi [In reply to] Can't Post

I applied to mainly low res (I only applied to two reg res). I got in Pacific, Queens, Antioch, and Lesley. Rejected from Warren Wilson.

In the end I chose to go to Lesley. I would love to chat with anyone else going.



Apr 6, 2008, 8:17 PM

Post #1765 of 2686 (30604 views)
Re: [Lyz] Just wanted to say hi [In reply to] Can't Post

I haven't heard much from others who have decided to attend Queens this year. I would love to meet my fellow students, start building a community before I get on campus.


Apr 6, 2008, 8:43 PM

Post #1766 of 2686 (30594 views)
Popular Fiction [In reply to] Can't Post

Hi all--

I was wondering if anyone has attended or is attending either the Stonecoast or Seton Hill low res MFA programs in Popular Fiction? I am very curious about these programs but can't seem to find much info about them on the web, other than the schools websites.

Also, I heard that Goddard is very open to more speculative/genre types of fiction. Can anyone confirm or deny this?



Apr 6, 2008, 9:24 PM

Post #1767 of 2686 (30585 views)
Bennington? [In reply to] Can't Post

Is anyone here going to the June residency? I am thrilled to be going. Some great writers have come out of the MFA program- not so well known, but some amazing work. I am going for fiction, but the poets there always amaze me.


Apr 7, 2008, 8:01 PM

Post #1768 of 2686 (30495 views)
Re: [rooblue] anyone going to vermont college? [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm really confused about whether to attend Stonecoast or Vermont. There seem to be dozens of happy VC folk populating this forum. I know that Stonecoast is a younger program, but that "gut feeling" seems to be telling me to go there despite the established reputation of Vermont. Is anyone else in this predicament? I already put a deposit on Stonecoast, but I still feel ill at ease.


Apr 7, 2008, 8:31 PM

Post #1769 of 2686 (30484 views)
Re: [susanjoy] Low-Residency MFAs [In reply to] Can't Post

Why just the east coast programs since it's a low-residency program thread? Hmmm. Seems a bit...yankee snobbish?
Actually, all those schools are great, but did this discussion really start in 1998? That's the date on the left of the first page's threads.

If so, first, wow, perhaps you should switch the listing to show most recent first.

Second, there have been some fine additions to the low-residency "concept" since 1998. I'm an established professional writer; when I began looking for an MFA program that was a "real" MFA in the sense of not just teaching creative writing but was connected with and overseen/taught by a group of academics, not just one or two mentors, I stumbled upon University of New Orleans' great low-res program. Not only was it incredibly affordable, but it was set up with classes on Blackboard taught by well-known professional writers, including in my case two Creative Nonfiction textbook authors, and best of all, the low residency was in Madrid, which turned out to be a sort of immersion of the same concept, but in person, at a Madrid university. It's now in Mexico, I believe. The bottom line is I received a fairly well-rounded literary experience from established fiction and nonfiction authors, instead of sending off work to one mentor back and forth for years. There's something to be said for that. Anyway, just input for the rest of us. During the two year program (i did it fast), I finished two manuscripts-creative nonfiction and a novel. I traveled, and I met-interacted through Blackboard virtual classrooms with some great writers--at all levels. Hope this helps! -L.R. Stephenson


Apr 7, 2008, 8:45 PM

Post #1770 of 2686 (30478 views)
Re: [lynrs] Low-Residency MFAs [In reply to] Can't Post

Your characterization of low-residency programs as "sending off work to one mentor back and forth for years" is incorrect, at least for the programs I'm most familiar with -- Bennington, Vermont, and Warren Wilson, where I went. Those programs all offer a "well-rounded experience" with "established authors," to quote two of the things you cited about your MFA program. And at those programs, many if not most attendees, like you, finish their MFA's in two years. Writers who are exploring MFA options often have misconceptions about low-residency programs. We can do these prospective MFA students a favor by making sure that the things we say about these programs -- east coast, west coast, or otherwise -- are accurate.


Apr 7, 2008, 10:14 PM

Post #1771 of 2686 (30457 views)
Re: [morella80] anyone going to vermont college? [In reply to] Can't Post

VC is wonderful, as many will attest. But I believe Elizabeth Searle is still teaching at Stonecoast. She's one of my favorite writing teachers of all time. Very supportive.

I haven't begun my low-res experience yet, but the consensus I've gotten from others is that the packet is by far the best part of the process. In a sense, I'm payin' the big bucks specifically for the packet experience; I'm not sure I would get the same level of concentrated attention from a faculty member at a traditional MFA program.

(This post was edited by LaurenS on Apr 7, 2008, 10:16 PM)


Apr 7, 2008, 10:25 PM

Post #1772 of 2686 (30451 views)
Re: [LaurenS] anyone going to vermont college? [In reply to] Can't Post

I heartily agree re: "the packet experience." I think that low-res programs are the way to go if you want a mentoring relationship. By the way, I've chosen Stonecoast. I feel that is the best decision for me and I'm sticking to it.

Jeanne Lyet Gassman
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Apr 7, 2008, 10:59 PM

Post #1773 of 2686 (30439 views)
Re: [LaurenS] anyone going to vermont college? [In reply to] Can't Post

Absolutely agree about the packets. I've just turned in my third packet for my first semester at Vermont, and I can tell you that the process of creating a packet every four weeks has 1) made me more disciplined; 2) increased my productivity; and 3) initiated tremendous leaps in my craft.

My mentor's feedback is both timely (turnaround of approximately 3-4 days) and insightful. The exchange of packets and letters has resulted in an ongoing dialogue that is balanced between my needs and my mentor's advice. In many ways, I suspect the low-res experience is more intense than a residency-based MFA. You work independently most of the semester. Most low-res students are scheduling their own writing time outside of work and family commitments. The expected output of reading and writing is quite large--In my case, I will have written 125 pages of craft material this semester and approximately 20 pages of critical essays. I will have also read 10 novels for my critical reading. Some of these books are easily 500 pages. In addition, I will be expected to have written critiques for about 10 short stories (of fellow students) for my next residency. After such a packed semester, the residency will be a bit like a mini-vacation!

A low-res MFA isn't for everyone, particularly if you feel the need to interact socially with other writers on a regular basis. But I've found the experience exhilarating. I love the one-on-one contact I have with my mentor because I feel that he really "gets" my writing.

Just my thoughts...Others may feel that a residency program offers the same level of intensity. I don't know since my experience is with low-res programs.




Apr 9, 2008, 1:42 PM

Post #1774 of 2686 (30348 views)
Re: [Hieronymus] Vermont and Pacific [In reply to] Can't Post


Just found out today that I was accepted at Pacific. I am really excited. I have one other application pending at University Alaska-Anchorage. Just wondering if any of you with the Pacific option had made a decision.

Good luck.


Apr 9, 2008, 3:05 PM

Post #1775 of 2686 (30321 views)
Re: [mzmiller] Vermont and Pacific [In reply to] Can't Post

What's your genre? I'm declining an offer from Pacific for nonfiction...

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