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jerry u


Mar 22, 2007, 8:36 PM

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Thanks. I'm actually pretty Zen about it all right now, which is weird because I'm normally an extremely uptight loud-mouthed, hateful New Yorker, quick to ridicule anything I don't understand. I still haven't heard anything yet. My writing sample had a lot of "comedy" in it, so if they don't like my sense of humor, then I probably won't want to work with them and they definitely won't want to work with me. So whatever happens will likely be for the best. End of self-delusory pep talk. Time to have another glass of wine.


naristy


Mar 22, 2007, 10:39 PM

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maybe we've switched bodies cause that pretty much describes how i was feeling earlier. doing better now--i mean, what esle can i do? and good for you for keeping it Zen. I remember you said you applied to Queens and Lesley (?). Where else did you apply?


jerry u


Mar 23, 2007, 9:42 AM

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I also applied to Fairleigh Dickinson. Their deadline is April 1.


naristy


Mar 23, 2007, 10:32 AM

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I looked at FDU but decided not to apply. I was very interested in their international component and I hate to admit what turned me off was the misspelling of an author's name in their lit journal. It just happened to be the author of a book I really liked and, however petty, I couldn't get over it. I wish I had.


koh1977


Mar 23, 2007, 2:28 PM

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naristy and jerry u - you two are fiction, right??

I'm so torn right now...on one hand, I got an incredibly encouraging e-mail from a faculty member from Lesley (I still have to contact some students and other faculty to "pick their brains" so to speak) and on the other, I've had nothing but friendly and prompt replies from the staff and students at Pine Manor...

I'm spending my Spring Break deciding what program to accept!

(I also was told to call this pm or Monday morning to find out a decision from Hamline and Vermont told me they should have a decision by early next week as well.)

I'm both excited and anxious about the situation (having to choose)! :-)


naristy


Mar 23, 2007, 4:49 PM

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Yes. I am fiction. (I believe Jerry is too but I won't speak for him.) What a wonderful dilemma though! I'm not sure how helpful I can be. I don't know much anything about Pine Manor other than it is a brand new program, which of course has the drawback of there not being any students to talk to about it. I guess it depends what you want out of a program. Are you looking to potentially teach at a higher level (and as we all know, you'll need to publish to do that anyhow) or are you just looking for some time to write/learn in a nurturing environment?

I tend to be scared off by new endeavors so I if it were me, I would go with Lesley. But what else would I say since I applied there? Personally, I find the interdisciplinary aspect appealing and that along with the Pass/Fail nature of their grading system would be the reasons for my going there if I were to be accepted. I guess what I'm rambling on about is that you should think about what made you apply to each program. Hopefully, there will be something that stands out more than anything else. That said, if you're having a hard time choosing, then you probably can't go wrong either way. Don't you hate it when people say that?


jerry u


Mar 23, 2007, 10:14 PM

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Yup, I'm fiction, too. Sounds like you're having a very enjoyable spring break; despite (or should I say, because of) your dilemma.


koh1977


Mar 24, 2007, 2:43 AM

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Pine Manor is a new program, but they started last year, so I was given a few names of students I could e-mail and talk to about it. They seem very happy with it so far.

I'm waiting to hear back from faculty too...


naristy


Mar 24, 2007, 1:22 PM

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I stand corrected on Pine Manor. Glad you were able to talk with students/faculty. Good luck and let us know what you decide.


koh1977


Mar 24, 2007, 3:06 PM

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I've been accepted to 2 low-res programs so far - Lesley and Solstice (Pine Manor)...Waiting to hear back from Hamline and Vermont still...(Rejected by Spalding and U of British Columbia) All low-res in children/YA...


Moonshade


Mar 25, 2007, 3:42 PM

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Just out of curiosity, did anyone applying to the Low-Res. programs send in short stories or chapters of a novel? Is it better to send in short stories instead of a novel?


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Mar 25, 2007, 3:56 PM

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I sent a chapter from a novel, and I got in. And the novel didn't even turn out to be my thesis novel.

I think the best approach is to send in a sample of whatever genre you intend to pursue during the program.


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Moonshade


Mar 25, 2007, 4:20 PM

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Thanks Pongo. So often the MFA websites say that short stories are preferable to novels. But I've been working on a novel and if I decide to apply to a program, it's what I'd prefer to send (especially since I believe it is my best work to date).

Recently I read over a short story I wrote two years ago, and I had the happy realization that my writing skills have improved.


naristy


Mar 25, 2007, 4:42 PM

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Moonshade,

I sent in the first chapter of a novel in progress. It's the project I've been working on for the past couple of years and what drew me to seek out an MFA. I'm not a short story writer so I had no alternative. Don't have any acceptances yet to show for it, though. Been waitlisted at two schools and have yet to hear from the other three. Good luck.


koh1977


Mar 25, 2007, 5:09 PM

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I sent in 2 picture book stories and a chapter of a middle grade novel...

Oh, and I got rejected by Vermont (really did NOT care for their rejection letter either - it was a bit on the condascending and preachy side if that makes sense...Can't they just say you've been rejected and leave it at that?)...Still waiting on Hamline before I make my final decision, but I'm leaning towards Pine Manor actually...


Moondog


Mar 25, 2007, 6:20 PM

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Re: [Moonshade] In at Spalding [In reply to] Can't Post

I sent 20 pages of a novella. To be honest, I spent a lot more time on my personal statement - 5 pages single-spaced - and got some positive feedback on that from the school before I was accepted. I sort of viewed the two pieces in conjunction, the writing sample expanding on ideas and issues raised in the personal statement. Finally, I also included a couple of published nonfiction essays, that again dovetailed with my personal statement and writing sample.

I only applied to one school, though - Goddard.


SparkAvery
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Mar 27, 2007, 10:16 AM

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I sent in pieces of stories. People here have written before to never send anything that isn't complete. I didn't send one full story and I got in.


SparkAvery
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Mar 27, 2007, 10:18 AM

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Are you going to Goddard? I just sent my enrollment deposit.


Moondog


Mar 27, 2007, 7:00 PM

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Yes - Goddard is my first and only choice! I'm curious: any other Goddard lurkers out there?


naristy


Mar 28, 2007, 5:19 PM

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Rejected by Warren Wilson in fiction by post. The letter was dated March 22. I gotta say, I thought I would be pretty upset by this (since I figured it was coming) but am not. Hurray!


Rambler


Mar 28, 2007, 8:04 PM

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Me, too. I had a sad little moment for the memories that will never be, and then kinda just moved on.
By the way, has anyone in fiction heard from Queens Univ. yet?


rachellauren12


Mar 29, 2007, 1:32 AM

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I was accepted to Queens in fiction. Heard by phone almost 2 weeks ago, but I am pretty sure they make their decisions in various waves...
I'm actually leaning towards going there. But I'm also considering Vermont. Anyone have any thoughts?


jgumbrecht


Mar 29, 2007, 3:55 AM

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I got an acceptance call from Goucher today. Has anybody else heard? Have any thoughts to share? Congrats and good luck to all!


lapwing


Mar 29, 2007, 9:26 AM

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I can confirm the Goucher outbreak: I was also accepted yesterday -- it was exhilaratingly weird to get a voicemail from Patsy Sims. Take a look at your private messages, J. (or J.G.).

One of the things that makes Goucher seem so appealing to me (even apart from the excellent faculty) is that I can commute to the residencies, meaning that I have a decent chance of arriving home before my kids' bedtimes each evening and getting to read *Click Clack Moo* with them for the 97th time. I also like the looks of the faculty at Pacific University, but it's on the other side of the country -- and that would mean vanishing for an unlucky 13 days at a stretch.

I'm wondering if any other low-residency MFA folks (current or prospective) find it painful or just inconvenient to balance (or to think about how to balance) writing and family commitments and pleasures. Are the residencies a torture? Are they a joy? Is the financial investment something you worry about, as money that could pay for your children's education rather than for your education, ongoing as it is?

And thanks to all the content providers across these boards -- special shout-out to Wiswriter -- for their free-of-charge insights and unwitting moral support during this latest application season.

--lapwing


Moondog


Mar 29, 2007, 9:52 AM

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Congratulations, Lapwing.

The only downside to Goddard for me is that I will be away from my three children - 8, 3 and 2 months - for the duration of the residency. I envy your situation - it is hard to imagine over a week without them, not to mention inconveniencing my partner who will be balancing kids and work and animals for the duration. When I was in law school about ten years ago, I had a friend who dropped out for a couple years in order to be with his young children more. You don't get that time back, was his theory.

So I'm trying to focus on the positive - that it's important for kids to see their parents taking chances, making changes, seizing opportunities and trying to live their dreams in a world that isn't always conducive to that. Also, I feel that in general the more space and time I give my writing, the better partner and father I am. When I was practicing law I was always deeply frustrated because between generating billable time and trying to be present to my young family there was so little time to write. I felt pretty inauthentic to be honest. Over the past five years, I've quit the law and transitioned to freelance journalism - the result is less money but a deeper sense of who I am and what the real work is, which in turn seems to empower me as a parent - no deferred dreams just waiting to explode, you know?

So I'm hoping that pursuing an MFA at Goddard will fall more or less along those lines - that the short-term inconvenience of residency and then work at home (so much more intense reading and writing) will be balanced by the afore-mentioned benefits: that I can continue to be a role model to my children for pursuing the life one dreams of, and that I won't feel the craziness that comes from putting off the real work.

But no mistake, it's the hardest and most intimidating part of this whole process.

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